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Miss Klutz
YoSupporter

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Registered: Aug 15, 2009
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Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:51 am
Queen Mata (13429328) wrote:
Jade (136873125) wrote:How are FB YoWorld Groups and Pages getting the upcoming Theme information before the Theme is released? That upcoming Theme information is being leaked/provided to them from someone, then they are posting it in their group and on their pages!


BVG doesn't encrypt the upcoming themes info. Anyone with a little internet knowledge can access it.


I've never been able to find info on upcoming themes and I have internet knowledge. So I'm missing something on how people find out this information.

Miss Klutz
YoSupporter

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Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:56 am
Viking Andrew, How will this work with YW Groups posting the new themes and players posting on their FB page also before they come out? This could/would also jeopardize partnership with leaking information.

YDZ Silver
YoSupporter

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Posts: 550

Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:19 am
Miss Klutz (114423285) wrote:
Queen Mata (13429328) wrote:
Jade (136873125) wrote:How are FB YoWorld Groups and Pages getting the upcoming Theme information before the Theme is released? That upcoming Theme information is being leaked/provided to them from someone, then they are posting it in their group and on their pages!


BVG doesn't encrypt the upcoming themes info. Anyone with a little internet knowledge can access it.


I've never been able to find info on upcoming themes and I have internet knowledge. So I'm missing something on how people find out this information.


I'm here scratching my head too :eh: .. like how sway? I'm missing some info too lol :nerd: :?:

YDZ Silver
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Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:20 am
Game Over (126579776) wrote:
Robyn VIP (8132649) wrote:How about giving us sneak peaks, that way we can still guess and look forward to it.

This is what I'm trying to convince them to do. After week 1 of the current theme, they simply need to do something mysterious on FB and show a few solid items from the upcoming theme to get players talking about what is next. Build the buzz and have people thinking about playing Yo. I don't get why they don't? Maybe if the marketing group didn't spend all day trying to schedule out the next 50 gambling events, they'd have some time for it?

:haha:



Agrees x2 ;) :)

Viking Andrew
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Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:44 am
Miss Klutz (114423285) wrote:
Queen Mata (13429328) wrote:
Jade (136873125) wrote:How are FB YoWorld Groups and Pages getting the upcoming Theme information before the Theme is released? That upcoming Theme information is being leaked/provided to them from someone, then they are posting it in their group and on their pages!


BVG doesn't encrypt the upcoming themes info. Anyone with a little internet knowledge can access it.


I've never been able to find info on upcoming themes and I have internet knowledge. So I'm missing something on how people find out this information.


People use software to "scrape" the YoWorld database. This allows them to see anything that any items/stores/etc that we have added, but haven't made active yet.



Miss Klutz (114423285) wrote:Viking Andrew, How will this work with YW Groups posting the new themes and players posting on their FB page also before they come out? This could/would also jeopardize partnership with leaking information.


Unfortunately, there's not much that we can do to prevent people from posting these sorts of things on Public/Private Facebook groups. We will do everything we can to stop it on pages that we control though.

D3P2
YoApprentice

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Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:09 pm
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Honestly, with all the glitches and errors currently going on in game this (non-existent)"issue" should be at the very bottom of your concerns list if anything be there at all. :sleeping:

Theresa
YoCrazy

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Registered: Sep 16, 2009
Posts: 24651

Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:16 pm
D3P2 (184742534) wrote:Image
Honestly, with all the glitches and errors currently going on in game this (non-existent)"issue" should be at the very bottom of your concerns list if anything be there at all. :sleeping:

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100% agree with you! :thumbsup: :trophy: i sent a ticket in about the pop-up for the FB Update as we had the old one still. i also pointed out we never got a January prize one for YMCA2020. when i reported it, it was last day of January. and then today we got the YMCA pop-up but it has January prizes on it and not Februarys prizes! :dizzy:

SL iAdoreMe
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Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:29 pm
:eh: Seems like such a petty thing to worry about or to even bother addressing. There is so much wrong and so many questions people have been asking for months that only get ignored. Seem's you are more concerned with trivial things than things you should be. This just honestly makes no sense to me. Let's use desgin contests for example... there is always sooo much hype and excitement waiting for the release of these items, that players try to hoard as much yocash and or coins as they can prior to. So where is the logic in keeping everything secret til the exact release? Why make this a tos violation? Isnt that taking it a bit too far??

YDZ Silver
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Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:34 pm
Viking Andrew wrote:
Miss Klutz (114423285) wrote:
Queen Mata (13429328) wrote:
Jade (136873125) wrote:How are FB YoWorld Groups and Pages getting the upcoming Theme information before the Theme is released? That upcoming Theme information is being leaked/provided to them from someone, then they are posting it in their group and on their pages!


BVG doesn't encrypt the upcoming themes info. Anyone with a little internet knowledge can access it.


I've never been able to find info on upcoming themes and I have internet knowledge. So I'm missing something on how people find out this information.


People use software to "scrape" the YoWorld database. This allows them to see anything that any items/stores/etc that we have added, but haven't made active yet.

Ok so this would be like for IMVU what E-IMVU uses ? (Where u can view, outfits, closed shops and items that had been deactivated? I get it... yeah it could be easy for many ppl to do.



Miss Klutz (114423285) wrote:Viking Andrew, How will this work with YW Groups posting the new themes and players posting on their FB page also before they come out? This could/would also jeopardize partnership with leaking information.


Unfortunately, there's not much that we can do to prevent people from posting these sorts of things on Public/Private Facebook groups. We will do everything we can to stop it on pages that we control though.

YDZ Silver
YoSupporter

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Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:36 pm
D3P2 (184742534) wrote:Image
Honestly, with all the glitches and errors currently going on in game this (non-existent)"issue" should be at the very bottom of your concerns list if anything be there at all. :sleeping:


ABSOLUTELY! specially the Scammer still walking around yo, when so many ppl already submitted the ID and user. SMH @ VKG :grr :grr

Quarantined Mata
YoDedicated

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Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:47 pm
Viking Andrew wrote:
Miss Klutz (114423285) wrote:
Queen Mata (13429328) wrote:
Jade (136873125) wrote:How are FB YoWorld Groups and Pages getting the upcoming Theme information before the Theme is released? That upcoming Theme information is being leaked/provided to them from someone, then they are posting it in their group and on their pages!


BVG doesn't encrypt the upcoming themes info. Anyone with a little internet knowledge can access it.


I've never been able to find info on upcoming themes and I have internet knowledge. So I'm missing something on how people find out this information.


People use software to "scrape" the YoWorld database. This allows them to see anything that any items/stores/etc that we have added, but haven't made active yet.

If you used the right protection, that wouldn't happen. I correct myself, anyone with a little malicious internet knowledge can breach a network, and that's what's happening. What you need is a security assessment.

Kat
YoAficionado

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Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:25 pm
I love spoilers and anyone that doesn't want to see them doesn't have to read threads that say spoiler alert on them so nothing is being spoiled for them. I don't see a reason for keeping everything so secret. Having trailers on tv of upcoming shows or movies gives people incentives to watch those shows and movies. So it's disappointing that you're taking this route. No one that likes surprises at the last minute has to read the spoiler threads. So they'll still be surprised. Win win for both sides.

Kio
YoFiend

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Registered: Jun 21, 2013
Posts: 15657

Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:46 pm
D3P2 (184742534) wrote:Image
Honestly, with all the glitches and errors currently going on in game this (non-existent)"issue" should be at the very bottom of your concerns list if anything be there at all. :sleeping:

:trophy: :trophy: :trophy:

Most entertainment, whether it be a film, video game, or product has a period of marketing/advertising to generate hype so that people can prepare, financially, and mentally to pursue that product/game/movie at launch. Why stifle something so basic and common such as "anticipation" that can just get a spoiler alert put in the title is another mystery to me. I can understand if licensing is involved. But there is so many things to focus on fixing it looks odd to address this but not other things..

Claire
YoNovice

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Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:05 pm
Can some help me. I use Yoworld on my laptop and no problem. I also used to use my Ipad and my IPhone. I had to use Puffin for both. Well Puffin no longer exists but I was still able to get to Yoworld. Now I can not. So I went to my Apple Apps and downloaded the mobile companion. It takes me to YoWorld Casino page and I have no idea how to get to the actual game. I am not great with these computer things. If anyone can help me I would really appreciate it.

Kio
YoFiend

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Registered: Jun 21, 2013
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Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:25 pm
Claire (102904785) wrote:Can some help me. I use Yoworld on my laptop and no problem. I also used to use my Ipad and my IPhone. I had to use Puffin for both. Well Puffin no longer exists but I was still able to get to Yoworld. Now I can not. So I went to my Apple Apps and downloaded the mobile companion. It takes me to YoWorld Casino page and I have no idea how to get to the actual game. I am not great with these computer things. If anyone can help me I would really appreciate it.

This might be a silly question, but have you tried other browsers or the yoworld desktop app as the download?

Miss Klutz
YoSupporter

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Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:08 am
Viking Andrew wrote:
Miss Klutz (114423285) wrote:
Queen Mata (13429328) wrote:
Jade (136873125) wrote:How are FB YoWorld Groups and Pages getting the upcoming Theme information before the Theme is released? That upcoming Theme information is being leaked/provided to them from someone, then they are posting it in their group and on their pages!


BVG doesn't encrypt the upcoming themes info. Anyone with a little internet knowledge can access it.


I've never been able to find info on upcoming themes and I have internet knowledge. So I'm missing something on how people find out this information.


People use software to "scrape" the YoWorld database. This allows them to see anything that any items/stores/etc that we have added, but haven't made active yet.



Miss Klutz (114423285) wrote:Viking Andrew, How will this work with YW Groups posting the new themes and players posting on their FB page also before they come out? This could/would also jeopardize partnership with leaking information.


Unfortunately, there's not much that we can do to prevent people from posting these sorts of things on Public/Private Facebook groups. We will do everything we can to stop it on pages that we control though.


Thank you Viking Andrew for your responses. I had to look up what "scraping" was and now I know why I could never find anything on new themes coming out since I don't think about how to do illegal things. A suggestion would be to put this info about leaking new themes in the TOS. This is one of the information I found on "scraping" and how illegal action can be taken against a person for "scraping".

[b]So is it legal or illegal?[/b]
Web scraping and crawling aren't illegal by themselves. After all, you could scrape or crawl your own website, without a hitch.

The problem arises when you scrape or crawl the website of somebody else, without obtaining their prior written permission, or in disregard of their Terms of Service (ToS). You're essentially putting yourself in a vulnerable position.

Just think about it; you're using the bandwidth of somebody else, and you're freely retrieving and using their data. It's reasonable to think that they might not like it, because what you're doing might hurt them in some way. So depending on many factors (and what mood they're in), they're perfectly free to pursue legal action against you.

D3P2
YoApprentice

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Registered: Mar 04, 2013
Posts: 124

Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:35 am
Kio (185180932) wrote:
D3P2 (184742534) wrote:Image
Honestly, with all the glitches and errors currently going on in game this (non-existent)"issue" should be at the very bottom of your concerns list if anything be there at all. :sleeping:

:trophy: :trophy: :trophy:

Most entertainment, whether it be a film, video game, or product has a period of marketing/advertising to generate hype so that people can prepare, financially, and mentally to pursue that product/game/movie at launch. Why stifle something so basic and common such as "anticipation" that can just get a spoiler alert put in the title is another mystery to me. I can understand if licensing is involved. But there is so many things to focus on fixing it looks odd to address this but not other things..


:trophy:

Kat
YoAficionado

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Registered: Jun 15, 2016
Posts: 3350

Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:18 am
Claire (102904785) wrote:Can some help me. I use Yoworld on my laptop and no problem. I also used to use my Ipad and my IPhone. I had to use Puffin for both. Well Puffin no longer exists but I was still able to get to Yoworld. Now I can not. So I went to my Apple Apps and downloaded the mobile companion. It takes me to YoWorld Casino page and I have no idea how to get to the actual game. I am not great with these computer things. If anyone can help me I would really appreciate it.


Hon, puffin pro is still working. It's not expensive and is by far the easiest browser for ipad and iphone. The most user friendly. The others are clunky and laggy and not a good option. Edited to add that the mobile companion app is a companion to the game but you can't access the game with it. It has slots and match 3 games. So basically it's a separate thing from the game but stuff you win in the game can either be transferred to the game as in coins/yocash or if it's an item it automatically goes into your game. Hopefully I made that clear enough. :)

Adeline
YoWild

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Posts: 13150

Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:46 pm
I totally support this!

I cannot begin to tell you how tired I am of seeing the same people issue "spoilers" as if they are doing us a favor and as a result of that, are special because they are in the know and just might unlike the rest of us, have a connection to the Vikings.

Claire
YoNovice

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Registered: May 18, 2009
Posts: 55

Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:27 pm
Kat (106520804) wrote:
Claire (102904785) wrote:Can some help me. I use Yoworld on my laptop and no problem. I also used to use my Ipad and my IPhone. I had to use Puffin for both. Well Puffin no longer exists but I was still able to get to Yoworld. Now I can not. So I went to my Apple Apps and downloaded the mobile companion. It takes me to YoWorld Casino page and I have no idea how to get to the actual game. I am not great with these computer things. If anyone can help me I would really appreciate it.


Hon, puffin pro is still working. It's not expensive and is by far the easiest browser for ipad and iphone. The most user friendly. The others are clunky and laggy and not a good option. Edited to add that the mobile companion app is a companion to the game but you can't access the game with it. It has slots and match 3 games. So basically it's a separate thing from the game but stuff you win in the game can either be transferred to the game as in coins/yocash or if it's an item it automatically goes into your game. Hopefully I made that clear enough. :)


Thank You I will look for Puffin to buy
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