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Claire
YoNovice

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Registered: May 18, 2009
Posts: 55

Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:27 pm
Kat (106520804) wrote:
Claire (102904785) wrote:Can some help me. I use Yoworld on my laptop and no problem. I also used to use my Ipad and my IPhone. I had to use Puffin for both. Well Puffin no longer exists but I was still able to get to Yoworld. Now I can not. So I went to my Apple Apps and downloaded the mobile companion. It takes me to YoWorld Casino page and I have no idea how to get to the actual game. I am not great with these computer things. If anyone can help me I would really appreciate it.


Hon, puffin pro is still working. It's not expensive and is by far the easiest browser for ipad and iphone. The most user friendly. The others are clunky and laggy and not a good option. Edited to add that the mobile companion app is a companion to the game but you can't access the game with it. It has slots and match 3 games. So basically it's a separate thing from the game but stuff you win in the game can either be transferred to the game as in coins/yocash or if it's an item it automatically goes into your game. Hopefully I made that clear enough. :)


Thank You I will look for Puffin to buy

Kat
YoAficionado

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Registered: Jun 15, 2016
Posts: 3350

Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:56 pm
Claire (102904785) wrote:
Kat (106520804) wrote:
Claire (102904785) wrote:Can some help me. I use Yoworld on my laptop and no problem. I also used to use my Ipad and my IPhone. I had to use Puffin for both. Well Puffin no longer exists but I was still able to get to Yoworld. Now I can not. So I went to my Apple Apps and downloaded the mobile companion. It takes me to YoWorld Casino page and I have no idea how to get to the actual game. I am not great with these computer things. If anyone can help me I would really appreciate it.


Hon, puffin pro is still working. It's not expensive and is by far the easiest browser for ipad and iphone. The most user friendly. The others are clunky and laggy and not a good option. Edited to add that the mobile companion app is a companion to the game but you can't access the game with it. It has slots and match 3 games. So basically it's a separate thing from the game but stuff you win in the game can either be transferred to the game as in coins/yocash or if it's an item it automatically goes into your game. Hopefully I made that clear enough. :)


Thank You I will look for Puffin to buy


You are very welcome. I am glad i saw your question and was able to help.

Quarantined Mata
YoDedicated

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Registered: Apr 10, 2009
Posts: 5052

Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:30 pm
Miss Klutz (114423285) wrote:
Viking Andrew wrote:
Miss Klutz (114423285) wrote:
Queen Mata (13429328) wrote:
Jade (136873125) wrote:How are FB YoWorld Groups and Pages getting the upcoming Theme information before the Theme is released? That upcoming Theme information is being leaked/provided to them from someone, then they are posting it in their group and on their pages!


BVG doesn't encrypt the upcoming themes info. Anyone with a little internet knowledge can access it.


I've never been able to find info on upcoming themes and I have internet knowledge. So I'm missing something on how people find out this information.


People use software to "scrape" the YoWorld database. This allows them to see anything that any items/stores/etc that we have added, but haven't made active yet.



Miss Klutz (114423285) wrote:Viking Andrew, How will this work with YW Groups posting the new themes and players posting on their FB page also before they come out? This could/would also jeopardize partnership with leaking information.


Unfortunately, there's not much that we can do to prevent people from posting these sorts of things on Public/Private Facebook groups. We will do everything we can to stop it on pages that we control though.


Thank you Viking Andrew for your responses. I had to look up what "scraping" was and now I know why I could never find anything on new themes coming out since I don't think about how to do illegal things. A suggestion would be to put this info about leaking new themes in the TOS. This is one of the information I found on "scraping" and how illegal action can be taken against a person for "scraping".

[b]So is it legal or illegal?[/b]
Web scraping and crawling aren't illegal by themselves. After all, you could scrape or crawl your own website, without a hitch.

The problem arises when you scrape or crawl the website of somebody else, without obtaining their prior written permission, or in disregard of their Terms of Service (ToS). You're essentially putting yourself in a vulnerable position.

Just think about it; you're using the bandwidth of somebody else, and you're freely retrieving and using their data. It's reasonable to think that they might not like it, because what you're doing might hurt them in some way. So depending on many factors (and what mood they're in), they're perfectly free to pursue legal action against you.



The thing is that scrapping has been going on for years and BVG hasn't done anything to prevent it.
And the people posting spoilers are not the only ones. There's this user who made his own version of yoworld.com with all the users' info.

How can we be sure that they don't have our full names, email addresses, and even our CC info (those who used to buy directly from BVG)?

What does BVG do about it? They forbid users from posting spoilers, that's what "safe and secure" mean to them.

Adeline
YoWild

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Registered: Aug 12, 2009
Posts: 13150

Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:39 pm
Queen Mata (13429328) wrote:
Miss Klutz (114423285) wrote:
Viking Andrew wrote:
Miss Klutz (114423285) wrote:
Queen Mata (13429328) wrote:
Jade (136873125) wrote:How are FB YoWorld Groups and Pages getting the upcoming Theme information before the Theme is released? That upcoming Theme information is being leaked/provided to them from someone, then they are posting it in their group and on their pages!


BVG doesn't encrypt the upcoming themes info. Anyone with a little internet knowledge can access it.


I've never been able to find info on upcoming themes and I have internet knowledge. So I'm missing something on how people find out this information.


People use software to "scrape" the YoWorld database. This allows them to see anything that any items/stores/etc that we have added, but haven't made active yet.



Miss Klutz (114423285) wrote:Viking Andrew, How will this work with YW Groups posting the new themes and players posting on their FB page also before they come out? This could/would also jeopardize partnership with leaking information.


Unfortunately, there's not much that we can do to prevent people from posting these sorts of things on Public/Private Facebook groups. We will do everything we can to stop it on pages that we control though.


Thank you Viking Andrew for your responses. I had to look up what "scraping" was and now I know why I could never find anything on new themes coming out since I don't think about how to do illegal things. A suggestion would be to put this info about leaking new themes in the TOS. This is one of the information I found on "scraping" and how illegal action can be taken against a person for "scraping".

[b]So is it legal or illegal?[/b]
Web scraping and crawling aren't illegal by themselves. After all, you could scrape or crawl your own website, without a hitch.

The problem arises when you scrape or crawl the website of somebody else, without obtaining their prior written permission, or in disregard of their Terms of Service (ToS). You're essentially putting yourself in a vulnerable position.

Just think about it; you're using the bandwidth of somebody else, and you're freely retrieving and using their data. It's reasonable to think that they might not like it, because what you're doing might hurt them in some way. So depending on many factors (and what mood they're in), they're perfectly free to pursue legal action against you.



The thing is that scrapping has been going on for years and BVG hasn't done anything to prevent it.
And the people posting spoilers are not the only ones.

There's this user who made his own version of yoworld.com with all the users' info.

How can we be sure that they don't have our full names, email addresses, and even our CC info (those who used to buy directly from BVG)?

What does BVG do about it? They forbid users from posting spoilers, that's what "safe and secure" mean to them.


And where is this? I want to see if I am on it.

LindyLou Who
YoWild

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Registered: Oct 03, 2009
Posts: 14543

Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:53 pm
Party poopers :sad:

Louka
YoNewbie

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Registered: Dec 14, 2015
Posts: 1

Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:04 am
oops

Amalia VIP 1
YoNewbie

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Registered: Dec 12, 2019
Posts: 2

Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:38 pm
Hi yoworld family I just joined the forums cause I need help to find out how to be able to (MAKE TRADES) my account is level 100+ and I have been doing the badges and got so many and doing everything, also the Gems events and the so Storylines. im desperate to be able to do business I even were VIP player but I decided to cancel the VIP subscription cuz I cant even do business! PLEASE HELP ME!

Mrs Poker
YoEnthusiast

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Registered: Sep 21, 2008
Posts: 7639

Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:20 pm
Amalia VIP 1 (187785829) wrote:Hi yoworld family I just joined the forums cause I need help to find out how to be able to (MAKE TRADES) my account is level 100+ and I have been doing the badges and got so many and doing everything, also the Gems events and the so Storylines. im desperate to be able to do business I even were VIP player but I decided to cancel the VIP subscription cuz I cant even do business! PLEASE HELP ME!


There are a few threads on this, have a seach and you will see all the varying suggestions, but the answer from a viking was, play the game and you will evolve naturally - I dont know how you are playing in the month or so you have been here, but your hair, old bow, lips, earrings etc suggest you are doing just fine and have got a really quick grasp of what the rarest items in game are, but I guess they were gifted as you cant trade. Maybe do some decorating, make friends, log in daily - I dont know what else to suggest. :?:

Denna
YoFiend

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Registered: Feb 25, 2009
Posts: 17474

Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:13 pm
Is this only for next theme, or also for YMCA, Calendar and Gem challenges?

DEElisShuss
YoFollower

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Registered: Jun 15, 2009
Posts: 1107

Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:42 pm
Denna (10205906) wrote:Is this only for next theme, or also for YMCA, Calendar and Gem challenges?


Unfortunately, I think we can only scrape and crawl our own website. Damn it :sad:

VAHJJ O8
YoNewbie

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Registered: Nov 16, 2008
Posts: 1

Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:43 am
TY!

Theresa
YoCrazy

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Registered: Sep 16, 2009
Posts: 24651

Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:59 am
what about the YMCA items? i post every month showing the new prizes. it's hardly any sort of spoiler and i'm not getting the info in a dodgy way. i literally post on here as soon as i see the items on the database in the latest releases bit which is a day or so before we get the new months stuff?

ChloePumpkin
YoGroupie

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Registered: Mar 27, 2011
Posts: 4409

Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:32 am
I'm just seeing this. But I guess it won't affect me since I'm generally clueless about what's going to happen anyway. :eh:

Cupcake
YoNovice

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Registered: Feb 17, 2009
Posts: 49

Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:53 pm
Does anyone know when we will get another crazy sale like Black Friday & Boxing Day?
Maybe one for Valentine? :D :heart: :gift: :rose: :smug:

Lori
YoAficionado

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Registered: Oct 27, 2009
Posts: 3711

Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:22 pm
I never have any spoilers to share, but at least I know not to in the slim chance I might. I'm glad someone started a thread about it yesterday as I hadn't noticed the stickie because I haven't been here much.

But I was wondering...wouldn't this affect Lyndy's threads for the gem events? Looking at her newest one today there were comments that the items she posted from the first tier weren't even in the db yet.

Please note, I do not want these threads to stop - everyone appreciates them and her, but you, BVG, need to be consistent. It wouldn't be fair if someone got a warning for something and yet others doing the same is fine. We've seen that happen here before and it causes all kinds of negative feelings and divides the forum.

LyndyPLUSH
YoSupporter

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Registered: Apr 09, 2009
Posts: 870

Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:45 pm
Lori (131347843) wrote:I never have any spoilers to share, but at least I know not to in the slim chance I might. I'm glad someone started a thread about it yesterday as I hadn't noticed the stickie because I haven't been here much.

But I was wondering...wouldn't this affect Lyndy's threads for the gem events? Looking at her newest one today there were comments that the items she posted from the first tier weren't even in the db yet.

Please note, I do not want these threads to stop - everyone appreciates them and her, but you, BVG, need to be consistent. It wouldn't be fair if someone got a warning for something and yet others doing the same is fine. We've seen that happen here before and it causes all kinds of negative feelings and divides the forum.

Lori...I sent Viking Andrew a PM asking if it was ok to post the gem tiers after I had opened them but have not received a reply. Since the items were already in game and I used my yocash to open each of the boxes in the tier I don't see how they can be considered a spoiler. So I guess I'll keep posting the gem tiers until I am told otherwise.

Theresa
YoCrazy

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Registered: Sep 16, 2009
Posts: 24651

Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:33 pm
LyndyPLUSH YoGa (13365185) wrote:
Lori (131347843) wrote:I never have any spoilers to share, but at least I know not to in the slim chance I might. I'm glad someone started a thread about it yesterday as I hadn't noticed the stickie because I haven't been here much.

But I was wondering...wouldn't this affect Lyndy's threads for the gem events? Looking at her newest one today there were comments that the items she posted from the first tier weren't even in the db yet.

Please note, I do not want these threads to stop - everyone appreciates them and her, but you, BVG, need to be consistent. It wouldn't be fair if someone got a warning for something and yet others doing the same is fine. We've seen that happen here before and it causes all kinds of negative feelings and divides the forum.

Lori...I sent Viking Andrew a PM asking if it was ok to post the gem tiers after I had opened them but have not received a reply. Since the items were already in game and I used my yocash to open each of the boxes in the tier I don't see how they can be considered a spoiler. So I guess I'll keep posting the gem tiers until I am told otherwise.

yeah i wish we would get an answer for this. i post the YMCA prizes each month but only after seeing them in the 'new releases' bit on the database. yes its a few days before we get the new prizes but it's not like i have obtained them in a dodgy way?!

Isla
YoLover

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Registered: Sep 07, 2008
Posts: 2977

Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:56 pm
I never know spoilers ahead of time to leak them. That said, I've always been very appreciative for them. It lets me know if I need to save any spending money for them or if I need to focus on getting other things within the game.

Would never want to jeopardize any partnership someone has worked hard on.

I really like Rod's suggestion in teasing and letting us guess but not knowing. You can generally tell by clues whether or not the theme will be for you.

Lori
YoAficionado

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Registered: Oct 27, 2009
Posts: 3711

Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:43 am
LyndyPLUSH YoGa (13365185) wrote:
Lori (131347843) wrote:I never have any spoilers to share, but at least I know not to in the slim chance I might. I'm glad someone started a thread about it yesterday as I hadn't noticed the stickie because I haven't been here much.

But I was wondering...wouldn't this affect Lyndy's threads for the gem events? Looking at her newest one today there were comments that the items she posted from the first tier weren't even in the db yet.

Please note, I do not want these threads to stop - everyone appreciates them and her, but you, BVG, need to be consistent. It wouldn't be fair if someone got a warning for something and yet others doing the same is fine. We've seen that happen here before and it causes all kinds of negative feelings and divides the forum.

Lori...I sent Viking Andrew a PM asking if it was ok to post the gem tiers after I had opened them but have not received a reply. Since the items were already in game and I used my yocash to open each of the boxes in the tier I don't see how they can be considered a spoiler. So I guess I'll keep posting the gem tiers until I am told otherwise.


Thanks, Lyndy. Good for you for being on top of things, even though that should not have to be your job, here. I hope you get an answer soon and I completely agree with your reasoning in regard to posting them, too. I hope you don't think I was picking on you in any way. I just know that BVG often leaves things open to speculation and despite many questions we don't get specific answers until there is an uproar and by then it is too late to make things right and I hoped to avoid that.

Lynn
YoAficionado

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Posts: 3664

Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:43 pm
I like spoilers! No different than advertising new film or trailers.
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