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Nyx
YoAdmirer

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Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:17 pm
JULIET ROSE (146663595) wrote:
Veronica (122961678) wrote:Super expensive old items cause price jacking and encourage scams. Because yo-poorer players feel hopeless to reach some items they want, so they try to pricejack what they already have, some try to raise their funds by scamming others because many items are soooo out of reach to many players that they see no other way that can take them to their goal items. And for the same reason yc rates go up up up and up. This will never stop unless they rerelease things. Just 8-9 months ago yc rates were around 10k to 1 but now.. i see even 30k to 1 dealers. Where is the end point or this yoinflation? If I was a new player right at the moment, considering that you literally can not get anything nice for less than 200k on sales, I would think wow there is no way I can make my way up on this game... so I would just leave.



I agree. If I were a new player I would not stay in the game. We all want to be Elite but the investment is just to high! So why do something where I can't be on top. One of the biggest reasons I stay now is because of the investment and I love collecting things.


Well any new player can be on top. It just takes time. Like its taken most of us who have been playing a while. I would never expect to start a game and be on the same level as someone who had been playing for 5 years. Thats just entitled.

Speed 711
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Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:24 pm
The re-releases did seem to get the economy booming but maybe because there were no releases around the time so nothing else to do but stock up and resell.

I too would rather have the new releases they have planned for us. :mrgreen: Can't wait.

Veronica
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Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:27 pm
On my earlier post, which has been quoted tons of times, I see people only focused on what I said about yocash rates and some took it as complaining, some totally misunderstood.

Let me explain again what I was trying to say, the reason why yocash rates always go upwards rapidly, is the super expensive coin items. I am not blaming yocash dealers at all. They pay for their yocash and they want to earn maximum coins they can out of it in game because they want to afford those crazily expensive expired items.

If those items, get re-released and stay in stores, people will need less coins to get them right? So everyone can buy yocash for spending in store, for themselves, for fun! and not because they have to make millions of coins quickly.

This will set things more stable. Yocash rates are just a part of this chain of inflation. And it wasn't all that I was talking about. In todays circumstances of course nobody will want to deal yc less than 20-30k to 1. Because coins have nearly no value, because old items' prices always go up. All the time, everyone needs more coins more and more and more and this is an infinitve cycle.

I mean where do we get the need to deal so much yocash from instead of spending our own yocash for ourselves. To help people? In some cases could be, but for majority the answer is because we need coins. A LOT OF COINS. Because the factory doesn't pay enough to cover all the price jacking that WE, US, PLAYERS create in game.

An item I bought for 400k back in 2010 is now 14mil. Pretty soon we will end up with 100k to 1 rates and the dearly loved retros will cost like 100mil. And we will be asking for a 1mil button on trade screen.There is no max/top point. But we will probably still be earning 1500c from the factory. Can you see a good future out of this? I can't. This is not healthy. We still have 50c sunglasses in store, and the bank pays 100c for 1yocash, according to that we get good coins from the factory. But with the expired items, we managed to corrupt the game's economy that was originally designed. It is nobody's but Zynga's fault. And now it can be fixed by re-releasing...

MinoRin
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Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:29 pm
I think it depends on the person..The ones who have the items that are re-released will surely be upset, or the other end to be happy to share..Maybe an idea if the items re-released should be those that do not worth much in the theme

Pete
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Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:04 am
Veronica (122961678) wrote:On my earlier post, which has been quoted tons of times, I see people only focused on what I said about yocash rates and some took it as complaining, some totally misunderstood.

Let me explain again what I was trying to say, the reason why yocash rates always go upwards rapidly, is the super expensive coin items. I am not blaming yocash dealers at all. They pay for their yocash and they want to earn maximum coins they can out of it in game because they want to afford those crazily expensive expired items.

If those items, get re-released and stay in stores, people will need less coins to get them right? So everyone can buy yocash for spending in store, for themselves, for fun! and not because they have to make millions of coins quickly.

This will set things more stable. Yocash rates are just a part of this chain of inflation. And it wasn't all that I was talking about. In todays circumstances of course nobody will want to deal yc less than 20-30k to 1. Because coins have nearly no value, because old items' prices always go up. All the time, everyone needs more coins more and more and more and this is an infinitve cycle.

I mean where do we get the need to deal so much yocash from instead of spending our own yocash for ourselves. To help people? In some cases could be, but for majority the answer is because we need coins. A LOT OF COINS. Because the factory doesn't pay enough to cover all the price jacking that WE, US, PLAYERS create in game.

An item I bought for 400k back in 2010 is now 14mil. Pretty soon we will end up with 100k to 1 rates and the dearly loved retros will cost like 100mil. And we will be asking for a 1mil button on trade screen.There is no max/top point. But we will probably still be earning 1500c from the factory. Can you see a good future out of this? I can't. This is not healthy. We still have 50c sunglasses in store, and the bank pays 100c for 1yocash, according to that we get good coins from the factory. But with the expired items, we managed to corrupt the game's economy that was originally designed. It is nobody's but Zynga's fault. And now it can be fixed by re-releasing...



This is so true. A lot of people make the mistake of thinking that a re-released item will be put back into the store and then removed again, allowing the prices to climb once again. A re-released item should stay in store, preventing them from gaining in value, thus permanently decreasing their value. This would go some way towards stabilizing the economy. This would allow BVG created items to take the place of Zynga items. BVG items could be removed from store allowing them to gain in value.

Pete
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Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:18 am
Willow (13350872) wrote:That's how I got where i'm at. I use to buy tons of yocash. Or should I say we as in my daughter and I lol
We both spent more then i'd like to admit and then when they started re-releasing in game we stopped buying. We might of bought every once in a blue moon and that was it.



You and your daughter, hmm ;)


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Judge Moody
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Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:38 am
I love the game but as an older player, do not take it as seriously as some of the younger ones. I was resigned to the fact that it was closing, and pleasantly surprised when it was saved.

Personally, after 5 years, I am not bothered either way about re-releases. I can see both pros and cons for such a move. Either way, it won't affect how I play, or my enjoyment of the game.

Speed 711
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Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:04 pm
One thing I did not like is how Zynga was so sneaky and secretive about informing us of re-releases. Sometimes there was not notice or warning at all so you would have to check the forum and stores or risk getting burned.

I mean when Zynga first released Good vs Evil it messed up my game because I was not using the forum so I was not aware the theme had reopened. I bought a lot of rainbow rays thinking it was a good price just to later find out they were in the store. :mrgreen: Talking to support they told me that the theme was reopened because of so many requests on the forum, so that got me coming to the forum. Took me forever to sell those things, but I did eventually sell them all.

Then when they reopened some of the other themes maybe I had a few items I had paid a lot for that were available again, but at the same time it gave me a chance to get more of this or that. When they opened Animal Reserve I had recently purchased some of those colored knobkerries for very high coin amounts (4M Brown nd 17M Yellow Gold) so when they did that, it helped me to realize I was thinking about the game in the wrong way. It is not about coin collecting and personal investment to me anymore. Now I am just happy for whatever they want to throw at us.

PIERRE A
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Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:16 pm
New releases (with new quality especially with the hairs) is better than the old one ;)

Adeline
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Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:43 pm
Most of those who want a re release don't have the items and see it as a way to get them and to get rich.

I don't support that.

JoYsTiCk NaViGaToR
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Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:54 pm
LoL is this the longest thread already? :D I am going to read further later on. :shock:

ZennA
YoDedicated

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Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:55 pm
I think remaking themes will be better than rereleasing them

Ignatius
YoRookie

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Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:57 pm
I can't Wait for a new release.

FinesseGod SW3RV3
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Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:58 pm
The votes speak for itself. As others have said the amount of people will be angry at all the hard work they have put in towards all these new players just joining the game. I say leave the game how it is and update,bring in newer themes as the game grows. In this point in time there is no need for re-releases. We can all agree on 1 thing: We want new themes. That is something we are likely to see in the future. Nice topic and cool voting option. :mrgreen:

AAill BudzPINK
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Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:39 pm
rare and expensive items give people things to work for, things to be proud of, re-releases are terrible.

ACE
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Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:49 pm
Definitely a big 'NO' to 'Re'-releases. Looking forward to new releases :)

keef
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Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:53 pm
no

Maria
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Sat Jun 14, 2014 2:23 pm
Re-release everything that was IN STORE at one point or the other....
Everyone who keep telling new people buy YC or YOCOINS, that is how I got where I am..... GOOD advise, there is only one huge problem with it.
Right now in order to buy let say pink retros (avr. price now is what, 30 million coins) you will have to spend almost $8.580 real dollars... let see
You will have to buy 70.000 yocoins at $20.00, approximately 429 times in order to come up with 30 million yocoins.
That would translate to $8.580 REAL DOLLARS. I have a question.... How many of you spent that much on this game?
Or you may say buy YC, 660 for $100, wonderful idea, but in order to make 30 million ycoins, someone would have to charge someone also 46.000 to 1 rate...
I don't know about you, but I don't know anyone who can afford this kind of rate.

Original poster is correct, re- release those pixels

I have been here for almost 5 years & when I started 500 to 1 was way too expensive. Let's get real everyone most of us don't mind paying to play, but if you can only spend $20.00 every few month, it will take you few years to come up with that amount of coins, and by that time ( if everything stay the same) the price for pink rets will be 150 million.

Alaa
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Sat Jun 14, 2014 2:43 pm
Well most peeps think that the re-releases are gd but if u think about all those guys who r collecting rares to sell them, they r loosing alot!

Pete
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Sat Jun 14, 2014 3:39 pm
Adeline (113719515) wrote:Most of those who want a re release don't have the items and see it as a way to get them and to get rich.

I don't support that.


That's why items should be re-released and stay in the store permanently, that way people won't get rich off them and new players will have access to those items. The game will thus become affordable to new players.
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