LisaTM (10095126) wrote:

Bookworm J (129336295) wrote:

LisaTM (10095126) wrote:Thank you for listening to us and saving these items! I’m a bit gutted that the ropes didn’t make it, but with the other stuff being saved, I have much less to stockpile now.

SO GLAD I didn't have to try to stockpile the sunbeams - can you imagine?

Oh I can! I need a 12 step program for my hoarding problem I’m gonna have like 3 storage units full of ropes

Viking Sarah wrote:Hey YoFans!

First, I'd like to thank you for your overwhelming feedback regarding the vaulting of themes. We have carefully reviewed everything you have stated, and we will continue to review your comments and concerns going forward.

At this time, we wanted to provide you with an initial update based around your feedback. This update will let you know what has been decided for the foreseeable future; however, we will continue to keep you all informed once any additional decisions are made.

As of right now, I can confirm for you that after MF2015 has been vaulted, no additional themes will be vaulted until November 2019.

Speaking of MF2015, we understand that this was a highly debated theme to be vaulted. While we were unable to save all requested items, we were able to save a few more than the items that would normally go into YoDepot. As our way of showing our immense appreciation to all YoFans, we are happy to let you know that the following MF2015 items will be saved from the Vault, and moved to YoDepot when the pre-vaulting period is over:

• Curtained Windows (Purple, Red, Green, and Blue)
• Single Stones (1-4)
• Standing Stones
• Scorch Marks (1-4)
• Pillars (Tall and Thick - Flowered, Wall, Mossy, Regular, and Broken variants)
• Corner Support Pillar
• Sun Beams (Purple, White, and Yellow)
• Stone Archway
• Medieval Windows (Double, Round, Curved, and Rectangular)
• Pillars (Medieval, Ivy Covered, and Half-Covered)

We do need to stress that these items automatically being saved from the Vault is a one-time occurrence. With that said however, we are also excited to let you know that going forward we will be asking YoFans for more input regarding which items will be moved to YoDepot when a theme is being vaulted. These details are still being worked out, but we will definitely be back to update you with that information when it has been finalized.

Thank you to everyone for your input, and I invite you to please continue to leave your feedback, comments, and concerns as I promise you that we are listening, we do care, and YoFans are what make everyday so great!

FermitthekrogYBLA (1195434) wrote:

Viking Sarah wrote:
We do need to stress that these items automatically being saved from the Vault is a one-time occurrence. With that said however, we are also excited to let you know that going forward we will be asking YoFans for more input regarding which items will be moved to YoDepot when a theme is being vaulted. These details are still being worked out, but we will definitely be back to update you with that information when it has been finalized.

Thank you to everyone for your input, and I invite you to please continue to leave your feedback, comments, and concerns as I promise you that we are listening, we do care, and YoFans are what make everyday so great!

Sarah would you mind clarifying what you mean by the 'automatically saved from the vault' comment, I am a little confused

Viking Sarah wrote:

FermitthekrogYBLA (1195434) wrote:

Viking Sarah wrote:
We do need to stress that these items automatically being saved from the Vault is a one-time occurrence. With that said however, we are also excited to let you know that going forward we will be asking YoFans for more input regarding which items will be moved to YoDepot when a theme is being vaulted. These details are still being worked out, but we will definitely be back to update you with that information when it has been finalized.

Thank you to everyone for your input, and I invite you to please continue to leave your feedback, comments, and concerns as I promise you that we are listening, we do care, and YoFans are what make everyday so great!

Sarah would you mind clarifying what you mean by the 'automatically saved from the vault' comment, I am a little confused

Hiya Fermit! Happy to clarify

What I meant by "automatically saved from the vault" was referencing the MF2015 items that are moving to YoDepot even though they don't fall under the normal foundation category, which includes things like stairs, windows, doors, etc. Previously, those items have been moved to YoDepot automatically when a theme is vaulted.

Going forward, we will be pursuing new options to include player input in regards to which items will be moved to YoDepot, along with the normal foundation items found in each theme. The input we gather from players won't automatically mean that every player-requested item will be saved, but I can promise you that your input will definitely count!

Viking Sarah wrote:

Snorty (3054329) wrote:This answered nothing about our current concerns.
Maybe you could address why things arent moved at the beginning of a vault. Or what items are being saved out of this theme? Or why the stuff to replace what you take away is a lot more expensive usually? Or why you take out themes and replace it with a lot less complete theme? SMDH.

Or why the stuff to replace what you take away is a lot more expensive usually?
Although this may seem like our ultimate goal, I assure you it's not. In my original post, I touched on pricing mechanics of items in YoWorld (which takes in inflation and our pricing guide.) In comparison to older items in YoWorld, I completely understand why it may seem that vaulting is our way of selling more expensive items, when that's really not the case.

Penny Dreadful (139979347) wrote:

Viking Sarah wrote:

Snorty (3054329) wrote:This answered nothing about our current concerns.
Maybe you could address why things arent moved at the beginning of a vault. Or what items are being saved out of this theme? Or why the stuff to replace what you take away is a lot more expensive usually? Or why you take out themes and replace it with a lot less complete theme? SMDH.

Or why the stuff to replace what you take away is a lot more expensive usually?
Although this may seem like our ultimate goal, I assure you it's not. In my original post, I touched on pricing mechanics of items in YoWorld (which takes in inflation and our pricing guide.) In comparison to older items in YoWorld, I completely understand why it may seem that vaulting is our way of selling more expensive items, when that's really not the case.

Not true. You take away coin items (especially chairs) and replace them with cash only options. I understand inflation. If this were the case, there would be a COIN cost increase for COIN items, not cash. Chairs and windows are a necessity for decorating in this game!

Viking Sarah wrote: Although this may seem like our ultimate goal, I assure you it's not. In my original post, I touched on pricing mechanics of items in YoWorld (which takes in inflation and our pricing guide.) In comparison to older items in YoWorld, I completely understand why it may seem that vaulting is our way of selling more expensive items, when that's really not the case.

Viking Sarah wrote:Or what items are being saved out of this theme?
Much like above, we do not know all of the items that will be saved until closer to vault time. As I mentioned in the original post, there are staple items like doors, windows, stairs, etc. that can be counted on to be placed in YoDepot after vaulting. Other items that could be potentially saved come from feedback from players.

Viking Sarah wrote:Or why the stuff to replace what you take away is a lot more expensive usually?
Although this may seem like our ultimate goal, I assure you it's not. In my original post, I touched on pricing mechanics of items in YoWorld (which takes in inflation and our pricing guide.) In comparison to older items in YoWorld, I completely understand why it may seem that vaulting is our way of selling more expensive items, when that's really not the case.

Viking Sarah wrote:Or why you take out themes and replace it with a lot less complete theme?
I can promise you that this is definitely not our intention at all. When we plan a theme, the planners continuously strive to create well-rounded, cohesive, and complete themes. This is the case for all new and upcoming themes that you see come into YoWorld. Should we ever miss the mark with a theme, we gather this information via player feedback, which is why your comments and suggestions are crucial.

Viking Sarah wrote:

Erwyle (187240896) wrote:The point I've been trying to make lately is we need a better method for choosing the YoDepot items. The survey idea might help, anything would be better. But as it is now, it's very random and chaotic...

The point that a lot of us have tried to make, some of us as far back as after the 1st yr. that BVG took over, is that pretty much everything in Yo is random & chaotic. Where is the relaxed fun that we used to have? Now it's omg, a sale, a vaulting along with will they keep the items that I need for future decorating at the depot or not, a yc deal, & a new theme. Now I don't see that as fun. I see that as one major headache that none of us need. High yc prices, deals, along with all of the previously mentioned show even more money grabbing & is taking advantage of the players that can afford to buy while disregarding the possible longevity of new players or even old players to help keep Yo alive because it is certainly disillusioning the older players & scaring off some of the new players. I know that we all can't have everything but frankly, when one no longer desires to participate in any of that & more players continually turn in this direction, how does that NOT affect the longevity of Yo?

As we continue to read your’s and everyone’s feedback, I have noted this common player sentiment that the current method of theme vaulting could be “cleaned up”, per say, with additional avenues to allow player input and feedback into which themes are vaulted, and ultimately which items are saved.

How long HAVE we expressed our sentiment about the vaulting & items NOT being moved to the depot or us even being asked before hand what we think SHOULD go to the depot that FINALLY it's mentioned by BVG that it needs an overhaul? How much frustration, disappointment, & outrage do we have to exhibit before that message APPEARS to finally be recognized?

We completely understand your frustration at the situation as well, but I’d like to further reassure everyone that decisions such as vaulting are not made on a whim, nor are they taken lightly. We have teams dedicated to solely evaluating historical data and player feedback before big changes like vaulting are implemented in YoWorld.

I'm sorry but no, you don't understand our frustration, BVG doesn't understand our frustration or they would have listened a long time ago & implemented a better way that works for the players, not just for themselves. To be heard, one has to be seen & that is the problem, we aren't being heard because we honestly aren't even being seen as important enough to be listened to.

Despite the easy and obvious conclusion that we don’t care about YoFans, that is the exact opposite. Every single Viking understands that YoFans are what make YoWorld go round, and are a driving force behind everything we do.

Yes, WE are the driving force of Yo. WE are the people of Yo. Without ALL of us, Yo can't survive. So plain & simple, for Yo to survive, BVG needs to pay more attention to what so many tell them instead of turning their heads the other way at their cooperate table with $ signs floating above their heads. Oh yes, I know that they are a business but when a business runs love of $ into the ground, they lose customers then the business.

In the overall case of vaulting, all of your feedback is being compiled so that we may proceed with a system that is as transparent as possible, while still working towards the longevity of YoWorld. When it comes to MF2015, we are also listening and will work to see what can be done.

The damage is done for MF2015. Unnecessarily done. This was a theme that should never have been vaulted when so many other themes with very few much used decorating staples are in those themes were left in the store.

Change is never an easy pill to swallow, and Viking Andrew and myself are here to help everyone through it. We may not always be the bearers of good news, but we will always be your voice when needed.

pandaid YED (111288114) wrote:

Viking Sarah wrote:

Erwyle (187240896) wrote:The point I've been trying to make lately is we need a better method for choosing the YoDepot items. The survey idea might help, anything would be better. But as it is now, it's very random and chaotic...

The point that a lot of us have tried to make, some of us as far back as after the 1st yr. that BVG took over, is that pretty much everything in Yo is random & chaotic. Where is the relaxed fun that we used to have? Now it's omg, a sale, a vaulting along with will they keep the items that I need for future decorating at the depot or not, a yc deal, & a new theme. Now I don't see that as fun. I see that as one major headache that none of us need. High yc prices, deals, along with all of the previously mentioned show even more money grabbing & is taking advantage of the players that can afford to buy while disregarding the possible longevity of new players or even old players to help keep Yo alive because it is certainly disillusioning the older players & scaring off some of the new players. I know that we all can't have everything but frankly, when one no longer desires to participate in any of that & more players continually turn in this direction, how does that NOT affect the longevity of Yo?

As we continue to read your’s and everyone’s feedback, I have noted this common player sentiment that the current method of theme vaulting could be “cleaned up”, per say, with additional avenues to allow player input and feedback into which themes are vaulted, and ultimately which items are saved.

How long HAVE we expressed our sentiment about the vaulting & items NOT being moved to the depot or us even being asked before hand what we think SHOULD go to the depot that FINALLY it's mentioned by BVG that it needs an overhaul? How much frustration, disappointment, & outrage do we have to exhibit before that message APPEARS to finally be recognized?

We completely understand your frustration at the situation as well, but I’d like to further reassure everyone that decisions such as vaulting are not made on a whim, nor are they taken lightly. We have teams dedicated to solely evaluating historical data and player feedback before big changes like vaulting are implemented in YoWorld.

I'm sorry but no, you don't understand our frustration, BVG doesn't understand our frustration or they would have listened a long time ago & implemented a better way that works for the players, not just for themselves. To be heard, one has to be seen & that is the problem, we aren't being heard because we honestly aren't even being seen as important enough to be listened to.

Despite the easy and obvious conclusion that we don’t care about YoFans, that is the exact opposite. Every single Viking understands that YoFans are what make YoWorld go round, and are a driving force behind everything we do.

Yes, WE are the driving force of Yo. WE are the people of Yo. Without ALL of us, Yo can't survive. So plain & simple, for Yo to survive, BVG needs to pay more attention to what so many tell them instead of turning their heads the other way at their cooperate table with $ signs floating above their heads. Oh yes, I know that they are a business but when a business runs love of $ into the ground, they lose customers then the business.

In the overall case of vaulting, all of your feedback is being compiled so that we may proceed with a system that is as transparent as possible, while still working towards the longevity of YoWorld. When it comes to MF2015, we are also listening and will work to see what can be done.

The damage is done for MF2015. Unnecessarily done. This was a theme that should never have been vaulted when so many other themes with very few much used decorating staples are in those themes were left in the store.

Change is never an easy pill to swallow, and Viking Andrew and myself are here to help everyone through it. We may not always be the bearers of good news, but we will always be your voice when needed.

I'm sorry & this is not personally directed towards anyone other than the BVG bigwigs that sit high up on their thrones with no concerns for the players that keep Yo alive. This is NOT change, this IS decimation. My love for Yo will always be there but the destruction that has been wrought since BVG took over, has been one downfall after another. I won't contribute MORE than I want just for the sake of my love of Yo. I won't let BVG use my love of Yo to make more money for them as they have managed to do with some. I'll go without before I'll allow that to happen to me. I'll keep Yo my way, not their way. If they honestly want to keep Yo alive, then they need to rethink their strategy. More & more players are finally seeing the light, it's not setting well with them. I also realize that BVG is here for whatever they can get for however long. When enough players have had enough, BVG will still be ok while we will lose the one thing in our lives that has given us relief from everyday rl pressures, medical conditions that Yo has enabled us to be like everyone else, friends that we've had forever or new ones, & a life that we have built in our precious community of Yo. Be sure to read my comments under each of Sarah's comments.

pandaid YED (111288114) wrote:No reply from a Viking?

pandaid YED (111288114) wrote:

Viking Sarah wrote:

Erwyle (187240896) wrote:The point I've been trying to make lately is we need a better method for choosing the YoDepot items. The survey idea might help, anything would be better. But as it is now, it's very random and chaotic...

The point that a lot of us have tried to make, some of us as far back as after the 1st yr. that BVG took over, is that pretty much everything in Yo is random & chaotic. Where is the relaxed fun that we used to have? Now it's omg, a sale, a vaulting along with will they keep the items that I need for future decorating at the depot or not, a yc deal, & a new theme. Now I don't see that as fun. I see that as one major headache that none of us need. High yc prices, deals, along with all of the previously mentioned show even more money grabbing & is taking advantage of the players that can afford to buy while disregarding the possible longevity of new players or even old players to help keep Yo alive because it is certainly disillusioning the older players & scaring off some of the new players. I know that we all can't have everything but frankly, when one no longer desires to participate in any of that & more players continually turn in this direction, how does that NOT affect the longevity of Yo?

As we continue to read your’s and everyone’s feedback, I have noted this common player sentiment that the current method of theme vaulting could be “cleaned up”, per say, with additional avenues to allow player input and feedback into which themes are vaulted, and ultimately which items are saved.

How long HAVE we expressed our sentiment about the vaulting & items NOT being moved to the depot or us even being asked before hand what we think SHOULD go to the depot that FINALLY it's mentioned by BVG that it needs an overhaul? How much frustration, disappointment, & outrage do we have to exhibit before that message APPEARS to finally be recognized?

We completely understand your frustration at the situation as well, but I’d like to further reassure everyone that decisions such as vaulting are not made on a whim, nor are they taken lightly. We have teams dedicated to solely evaluating historical data and player feedback before big changes like vaulting are implemented in YoWorld.

I'm sorry but no, you don't understand our frustration, BVG doesn't understand our frustration or they would have listened a long time ago & implemented a better way that works for the players, not just for themselves. To be heard, one has to be seen & that is the problem, we aren't being heard because we honestly aren't even being seen as important enough to be listened to.

Despite the easy and obvious conclusion that we don’t care about YoFans, that is the exact opposite. Every single Viking understands that YoFans are what make YoWorld go round, and are a driving force behind everything we do.

Yes, WE are the driving force of Yo. WE are the people of Yo. Without ALL of us, Yo can't survive. So plain & simple, for Yo to survive, BVG needs to pay more attention to what so many tell them instead of turning their heads the other way at their cooperate table with $ signs floating above their heads. Oh yes, I know that they are a business but when a business runs love of $ into the ground, they lose customers then the business.

In the overall case of vaulting, all of your feedback is being compiled so that we may proceed with a system that is as transparent as possible, while still working towards the longevity of YoWorld. When it comes to MF2015, we are also listening and will work to see what can be done.

The damage is done for MF2015. Unnecessarily done. This was a theme that should never have been vaulted when so many other themes with very few much used decorating staples are in those themes were left in the store.

Change is never an easy pill to swallow, and Viking Andrew and myself are here to help everyone through it. We may not always be the bearers of good news, but we will always be your voice when needed.

I'm sorry & this is not personally directed towards anyone other than the BVG bigwigs that sit high up on their thrones with no concerns for the players that keep Yo alive. This is NOT change, this IS decimation. My love for Yo will always be there but the destruction that has been wrought since BVG took over, has been one downfall after another. I won't contribute MORE than I want just for the sake of my love of Yo. I won't let BVG use my love of Yo to make more money for them as they have managed to do with some. I'll go without before I'll allow that to happen to me. I'll keep Yo my way, not their way. If they honestly want to keep Yo alive, then they need to rethink their strategy. More & more players are finally seeing the light, it's not setting well with them. I also realize that BVG is here for whatever they can get for however long. When enough players have had enough, BVG will still be ok while we will lose the one thing in our lives that has given us relief from everyday rl pressures, medical conditions that Yo has enabled us to be like everyone else, friends that we've had forever or new ones, & a life that we have built in our precious community of Yo. Be sure to read my comments under each of Sarah's comments.

Viking Sarah wrote:

Snorty (3054329) wrote:This answered nothing about our current concerns.
Maybe you could address why things arent moved at the beginning of a vault. Or what items are being saved out of this theme? Or why the stuff to replace what you take away is a lot more expensive usually? Or why you take out themes and replace it with a lot less complete theme? SMDH.

Hi Snorty - thanks for your questions!

Maybe you could address why things arent moved at the beginning of a vault.
Items are not moved at the beginning of a vault as those specific themes go on sale during that time frame. We also use this period of time to gather feedback on vaulting themes to gather item suggestions from players (more on this in my original post and below).

Or what items are being saved out of this theme?
Much like above, we do not know all of the items that will be saved until closer to vault time. As I mentioned in the original post, there are staple items like doors, windows, stairs, etc. that can be counted on to be placed in YoDepot after vaulting. Other items that could be potentially saved come from feedback from players.

Or why the stuff to replace what you take away is a lot more expensive usually?
Although this may seem like our ultimate goal, I assure you it's not. In my original post, I touched on pricing mechanics of items in YoWorld (which takes in inflation and our pricing guide.) In comparison to older items in YoWorld, I completely understand why it may seem that vaulting is our way of selling more expensive items, when that's really not the case.

Or why you take out themes and replace it with a lot less complete theme?
I can promise you that this is definitely not our intention at all. When we plan a theme, the planners continuously strive to create well-rounded, cohesive, and complete themes. This is the case for all new and upcoming themes that you see come into YoWorld. Should we ever miss the mark with a theme, we gather this information via player feedback, which is why your comments and suggestions are crucial.

Penny Dreadful (139979347) wrote:

Viking Sarah wrote:

Snorty (3054329) wrote:This answered nothing about our current concerns.
Maybe you could address why things arent moved at the beginning of a vault. Or what items are being saved out of this theme? Or why the stuff to replace what you take away is a lot more expensive usually? Or why you take out themes and replace it with a lot less complete theme? SMDH.

Or why the stuff to replace what you take away is a lot more expensive usually?
Although this may seem like our ultimate goal, I assure you it's not. In my original post, I touched on pricing mechanics of items in YoWorld (which takes in inflation and our pricing guide.) In comparison to older items in YoWorld, I completely understand why it may seem that vaulting is our way of selling more expensive items, when that's really not the case.

Not true. You take away coin items (especially chairs) and replace them with cash only options. I understand inflation. If this were the case, there would be a COIN cost increase for COIN items, not cash. Chairs and windows are a necessity for decorating in this game!

Theresa (122233016) wrote:exactly!! ^^^ ... you need to make more coin chairs, sofas, benches, windows and NPCs!