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Veronica
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:10 am
But I understand those who say no. It is the human nature. Having expensive items feels good and makes them proud, and superior than average players. Especially on clothing.

Wearing the "yo-rich uniform" << (that's what I call it lol) that consists of a 08naturewoman/men whatever, or yorothy, a pair of pink retros, a gold cupid bow, completing it with an expensive hair makes them feel awesome even if the clothing doesn't look so nice, even if those stuff don't go so well together... They just enjoy having stuff not everyone can have, and the thought of more people will be able to get them if they get rereleased distubs them. Cuz those items won't be special anymore.

This it. Not the actual value loss that they are concerned but losing that "feeling" and the "pride" of being richer and more special than many other players.

Why not just enjoy the stuff and wear & have whatever you want as much as you can. Re-released doesn't mean "free" after all. The challenge of the game will still exist.

Yoyi
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:28 am
I dont mind re-releases. Maybe the idea that anything but collectables can be put for sale at any moment can lower a little the crazy prices. Now, I'm a decorator, if something its too expensive I dont buy it and that's all. We have a lot of items, other item or other idea will solve the "expensive item" situation and keep me decorating happy and relaxed.

Speed 711
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:34 am
Maria (140783866) wrote:I think someone already said this but I will say it again...
2 month ago everyone on old forum said that they would give up everything, as long as someone save this game & we could continue playing this game, even if we had to start over ... what happen? If you were OK with giving up all this stuff then, why are you so oppose now to re-releasing? Everyone should be ecstatic that they saved the game, you were able to keep your stuff & that new people could get excited about this game.


Yes, that is what I was thinking. Save Yoville was all about save my friends. Save my family. Please don't let the game end. Strangly when it was saved it turned into let me outclass, price jack and scam a noob. It gets old fast. :mrgreen:

Entitlement.; it goes both ways.

GoldenMikey
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:57 am
We can have this argument going on forever. There is a reason why BVG and Greg said they didn't intended to rerelease the pets and also BVG has already said the don't have any plans in the future to have rereleases.

GoldenMikey
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:04 am
If they do rerelease them. Than here is a idea. Never have a theme leave the store. Have all the themes bring back to the store and everything including collectiables. Forever and ever and never have it discountinued. So people can stop crying that it left the store and that there will never be another rare item out there and we will never have to have this discussion again. Everyone would be happy :D

GoldenMikey
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:13 am
Also if I may add rereleases don't really do much to lower the economy or make it better. I remember when Z had its last rerelease and the items that weren't rereleased pricejacked and after 3 months these rereleased items were back were it started like MafiavPolice items, High School theme items, Even the bolt is at like a million now where it was when it began

Speed 711
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:57 am
Yes, Zynga made a terrible little dirty game all about greed. Those short term releases, theme close-outs, and the way certain items were leaked into the game through other means all lead up to this. Yes I understand, some of you old 08 players somehow have a cache of items that you think are yours to resell as you wish for whatever price it can be driven up to. What’s the point? If you made a billion coins+, then what?

Some others (myself included) saved up and grossly overpaid for many items that were not in the stores and resold some of those driving the prices up even higher. I am sure a lot of the coins I paid for the items went right into the black market and were sold by the underground. Did I really want to support that? Did I even have a choice?

I think the game needs to change so it does not just repeat the cycle again, and the way to stop it is to get all items in the store.

Willow
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 4:25 am
Maria (140783866) wrote:I think someone already said this but I will say it again...
2 month ago everyone on old forum said that they would give up everything, as long as someone save this game & we could continue playing this game, even if we had to start over ... what happen? If you were OK with giving up all this stuff then, why are you so oppose now to re-releasing? Everyone should be ecstatic that they saved the game, you were able to keep your stuff & that new people could get excited about this game.


I'm not sure where you got your everyone at! But I remember many saying that if they had to start all over they wouldn't. Many people play this game to collect. And thank god bvg understands that. They understand the collecting aspect of the game. They also understand how others like to decorate and whatnot. They're going to have new releases for everyone, so I'm sure everyone's going to be happy in the end. Or at least most. I guess you'll always have some that want things without having to spend money or to do anything to get it. I've been a player since 09. And I learned right away how to buy and sell. And I have spent tons of money to get where i'm at today. Why in the world should everyone else get it....just like that? And I hope everyone realizes that if they keep wanting the unreleased and short time released and all those items put back in game....I hope they realize if this were to happen..all 08's and any other rare item would more then likely sky rocket even more then they have now. Maybe that's why some want those items put back in game so that their items will sky rocket even more. Or maybe some aren't thinking about that.

CocoaLatteHottieYOJ
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:14 am
LooLYo (183302531) wrote:Maybe just a small re-release every few months or so.. Not like last time when they flooded theme after theme of re-releases..


If they do it all at once though, you're right, the drama won't go on for as long.

But I'm not sure on it.


I agree, the onslaught of themes all at one time didn't help. I think for special occassions like anniversaries, they should re-release some previous themes too. That way we could prepare by saving up our coins or buying extra YC. Also, I think that if BVG does re-release, on special occassions, it should be for a whole weekend, not just one day, and we should have a popup message IN GAME that a release will be coming atleast a week in advance. I think players would be more willing to buy if they have advanced notice. JMO.

CocoaLatteHottieYOJ
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:19 am
Speed 711 (184081390) wrote:
Maria (140783866) wrote:I think someone already said this but I will say it again...
2 month ago everyone on old forum said that they would give up everything, as long as someone save this game & we could continue playing this game, even if we had to start over ... what happen? If you were OK with giving up all this stuff then, why are you so oppose now to re-releasing? Everyone should be ecstatic that they saved the game, you were able to keep your stuff & that new people could get excited about this game.


Yes, that is what I was thinking. Save Yoville was all about save my friends. Save my family. Please don't let the game end. Strangly when it was saved it turned into let me outclass, price jack and scam a noob. It gets old fast. :mrgreen:

Entitlement.; it goes both ways.


I agree with both your posts! I don't understand WHY players wouldn't want someone to have an older item? The whole arguement against re-releasing I don't get, but you two just put words to what I was thinking but couldn't think how to say. You are absolutely right. And the "Entitlement: it goes both ways" is dead on! 8-)

Willow
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:25 am
I think the ones that want re-releases would be happy with something similar...like bvg said they'd do instead of re-releasing. I mean these people aren't in it for the collecting aspect.. so give them something similar. I trust bvg way more then I ever trusted zynga. So I believe that's exactly what they'll do :)

CocoaLatteHottieYOJ
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:27 am
Veronica (122961678) wrote:But I understand those who say no. It is the human nature. Having expensive items feels good and makes them proud, and superior than average players. Especially on clothing.

Wearing the "yo-rich uniform" << (that's what I call it lol) that consists of a 08naturewoman/men whatever, or yorothy, a pair of pink retros, a gold cupid bow, completing it with an expensive hair makes them feel awesome even if the clothing doesn't look so nice, even if those stuff don't go so well together... They just enjoy having stuff not everyone can have, and the thought of more people will be able to get them if they get rereleased distubs them. Cuz those items won't be special anymore.

This it. Not the actual value loss that they are concerned but losing that "feeling" and the "pride" of being richer and more special than many other players.

Why not just enjoy the stuff and wear & have whatever you want as much as you can. Re-released doesn't mean "free" after all. The challenge of the game will still exist.


Agree

Pete
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:37 am
Golden Mikey1 (178293069) wrote:Also if I may add rereleases don't really do much to lower the economy or make it better. I remember when Z had its last rerelease and the items that weren't rereleased pricejacked and after 3 months these rereleased items were back were it started like MafiavPolice items, High School theme items, Even the bolt is at like a million now where it was when it began



The reason previous re-releases didn't do anything for the economy is because they where removed from the stores again. To stop that they need to say in the store permanently. They should make two stores, a Z megastore and a bvg store. The megastore would contain all items that Z made, permanently available to players. The BVG store would have bvg made items which would then be taken out of stores allowing them to gain in value.

The only items would should not be re-released are collectibles. It was always said that collectibles would ever be released again. The name collectible says it all, "an item valued and sought by collectors." Their very purpose is to gain in value and become collectors items.

Kim
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:49 am
Pete (2679242) wrote:Alongside the pets re-release come the obligatory tears.

Yoworld's economy is in tatters and people are hanging on to the past for all its worth. It is time to let go and embrace the future of the game.

Under Zynga's watch hackers and price jackers ran the yoconomy into the ground. People took advantage of the psuedo Laissez-faire economy that was birthed in Z's outhouse to the point that a culture of entitlement has become entrenched among certain players.

If Yoworld is to survive the yoconomy needs to be rebooted. In it's current form it is unsustainable. Something needs to give. If the economy is to be rebooted items need to be devalued. The only items that should not be re-released are collectibles. Everything else is fair game.

The pet store will have provided BVG with a small taste of the whinging associated with re-releases. If re-releasing themes, items, unreleased and short term released items is going to be done, it needs to be done in one foul swoop. You cannot re-release items slowly over time, this will only create a long term drama. All items need to be re-released at once without forewarning.

That way all the players will cry at once, they will go through the stages of grief and when all is said and done, Yoworld will finally free of the baggage of the past and people will be able to look to the future, a future of opportunity and possibility under management that actually cares for the game.

It needs to be done soon, during this transition period. Leave it too long and it will be to late.
Re-releases are good for the game, you need to look past your greed and virtual wealth. Sometimes you need to take one for the team, if there was going to be a time to do this, this is it.

I have to agree Pete and I'm prepared to take one for the team :)
I am an old player and I pay real money (much, much more than I would care to admit to hubby) for YC. I traded, bought and sold to have items worth "millions'' but I would not be sorry to see these items re-released into the store - its the luck of the draw isn't it? Some items turn out to be worth a lot and some aren't.
The future of our game lies in being able to attract and keep new players. Its becoming increasingly difficult for anyone - new or old poor or rich - to buy items at the moment. Have any of you been to sales lately? The prices are ridiculous.
How many of you can actually afford to pay 10 million for a hair? This is what I was offered for a hair I had and never wore.
Re-release themes (not collectibles) and leave them in store. Let's make the game more attractive for new players and sustainable for older players.

XxYoItzStevenOmGxX
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:49 am
AgReEd!

Willow
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:47 am
Anyone can get anything they want in game...if they spend real money on the game and buy and sell. If the new people don't intend on spending money on the game...then they'll have to stick with what they can afford. Money is what keeps these types of games going. And that's why ones like myself who have spent tons of money on the game and love collecting, don't want re-releases. We've spent to much to just let new people walk in game and get everything the easy way. On the other hand I've seen newer players come in and actually work at buying and selling and they move up really quick. You can't just sit there and expect it all to fall into your lap. I'm not going to argue with anyone on this, because I really trust BVG on the no re-releasing part. They understand the collecting part of the game. I understand things keep rising but they go up and they go down. And the older items should be worth more. And there's always going to be new things that the new people can buy. I have faith in BVG that they'll have some super items that they'll be putting out. No need for old items.

CocoaLatteHottieYOJ
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:57 am
The reason previous re-releases didn't do anything for the economy is because they where removed from the stores again. To stop that they need to say in the store permanently. They should make two stores, a Z megastore and a bvg store. The megastore would contain all items that Z made, permanently available to players. The BVG store would have bvg made items which would then be taken out of stores allowing them to gain in value.

The only items would should not be re-released are collectibles. It was always said that collectibles would ever be released again. The name collectible says it all, "an item valued and sought by collectors." Their very purpose is to gain in value and become collectors items
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I love the idea of two stores. That is one of the best solutions I have heard yet on this topic. Kudos to you for thinking of it.

Willow
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:09 am
Spend money get what you want ;)

CocoaLatteHottieYOJ
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:25 am
Willow (13350872) wrote:Spend money get what you want ;)


YOU are ASSuming that we don't "spend money"! So sorry that your sense of entitlement is being threatened by the fact that other "paying customers" wouldn't mind having items rereleased. BVG would make a LOT of money from sales of re-released items. HOWEVER, those players who "bought a lot of certain items" and want to "sell to others at crazy prices" have a lot to lose, so of course they are upset and would push for no release. I'm just amazed that they think they can dictate to BVG what should and shouldn't be sold. Things that make a Yo go HMMMM? :roll:

Emerald
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:31 am
Ra 88 (145279978) wrote:Rereleases devalue the way we all saved things in the game to make them rare. Its the way we thrive and build in here. releasing everything would mean we don't have any reason to buy save and sell. Thats how some of us play. Its not wrong. It makes the game more fun. More worth buying and selling. antiques are pricy and in yo its the same.


I couldn't agree more! That's why I love this game so much, in the first place meeting people from all over the world and interacting, in the second place for me it's too buy and sell, third place decorating. And lots of other reasons too :lol:
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