Willow (13350872) wrote:

Gary Stevenson wrote:

Willow (13350872) wrote:This is my opinion but I'm not sure how they'd feel about it. If someone gets reported and they look it over and see it as just a debate and not an attack. They'll probably throw it out.

People can debate things without resorting to an attack on a person's character.

I'll bump this up in case anyone needs to read it

the problem with this is, that some people see disagreeing as a personal attack. Or if more than one person disagrees, its a gang. when people stop feeling this way, then it will be easier to get along.

Voldesnort (3054329) wrote: (13350872)"]

Gary Stevenson wrote:

Willow (13350872) wrote:This is my opinion but I'm not sure how they'd feel about it. If someone gets reported and they look it over and see it as just a debate and not an attack. They'll probably throw it out.

People can debate things without resorting to an attack on a person's character.

I'll bump this up in case anyone needs to read it

the problem with this is, that some people see disagreeing as a personal attack. Or if more than one person disagrees, its a gang. when people stop feeling this way, then it will be easier to get along.[/quote]

Well I'm sure that Gary or whoever can distinguish which is which. I'm sure they're not going to ban someone for just an opinion. There's a big difference in an opinion and an attack on someone. So i'm sure they'll see what's what.

Understood! Thanks

Willow (13350872) wrote:Well I'm sure that Gary or whoever can distinguish which is which. I'm sure they're not going to ban someone for just an opinion. There's a big difference in an opinion and an attack on someone. So i'm sure they'll see what's what.

There's a big difference in an opinion and an attack on someone. So i'm sure they'll see what's what.[/quote]
There a big difference in an opinion vs an attack despite how many people are involved in the debate. There are people that have a hard time differentiating the meaning of this and thus wolf gets cried and grievances arise for those deemed bullies irrationally.

The difference between disagreements and personal attacks:

Disagreement: Person 1. I think the new glasses are hideous.
Person 2. I think they are awesome.
Person 1. I guess we can agree to disagree


Personal attack: Person 1. I think the new glasses are hideous.
Person 2. I think they are awesome
Person 1. You have no taste (personal attack)
Person 2. You always look like your mother dressed you. (personal attack).


etc.etc.etc.etc. Anytime you bring someones personality, looks, ethnicity, etc. into a disagreement its a personal attack. Hope this helps.

Coley (8256841) wrote:

Willow (13350872) wrote: the problem with this is, that some people see disagreeing as a personal attack. Or if more than one person disagrees, its a gang. when people stop feeling this way, then it will be easier to get along.

There's a big difference in an opinion and an attack on someone. So i'm sure they'll see what's what.

There a big difference in an opinion vs an attack despite how many people are involved in the debate. There are people that have a hard time differentiating the meaning of this and thus wolf gets cried and grievances arise for those deemed bullies irrationally.[/quote]

Well maybe some don't understand the difference but I'm sure most do. And as I said Gary or whoever has to look at the report will be able to tell. If it's just a bunch of people debating and there's no personal attack or whatnot. They're not going to ban for that. They know what they're doing

Sooz (112570178) wrote:

Sapphire Blue (110162428) wrote:Can someone give me an example of baiting? Because if someone is just sticking up for themselves after being disparaged, I don't think that's baiting. Maybe I'm misinterpreting what the term means altogether. And by asking this, I am not baiting, I am asking for clarification. I think we all have vastly different definitions of these terms we're using and therein lies the problem.

It's basically someone being coy and not coming right out and saying something but putting enough
bait" in their statement that they know it will illicit a response either from a certain individual or a mindset or group of people....

No different than putting a worm on a hook and seeing what bites. If'n you know what I mean?

Baiting is a message posted to a public forum with the intent of provoking an angry response or argument over a topic. The "troll" (original poster provoking angry response) has no real interest in, and finds humour, or entertainment in reactions. When the person creating the topic actually has an interest in it, it is not considered baiting.

LilyBGoode (184957566) wrote:The difference between disagreements and personal attacks:

Disagreement: Person 1. I think the new glasses are hideous.
Person 2. I think they are awesome.
Person 1. I guess we can agree to disagree


Personal attack: Person 1. I think the new glasses are hideous.
Person 2. I think they are awesome
Person 1. You have no taste (personal attack)
Person 2. You always look like your mother dressed you. (personal attack).


etc.etc.etc.etc. Anytime you bring someones personality, looks, ethnicity, etc. into a disagreement its a personal attack. Hope this helps.

Yes this is good info

Pete (2679242) wrote:This PSA makes me feel like I am guilty.

Maybe I am guilty.

Am I guilty?

NO

Pete (2679242) wrote:

Sooz (112570178) wrote:

Sapphire Blue (110162428) wrote:Can someone give me an example of baiting? Because if someone is just sticking up for themselves after being disparaged, I don't think that's baiting. Maybe I'm misinterpreting what the term means altogether. And by asking this, I am not baiting, I am asking for clarification. I think we all have vastly different definitions of these terms we're using and therein lies the problem.

It's basically someone being coy and not coming right out and saying something but putting enough
bait" in their statement that they know it will illicit a response either from a certain individual or a mindset or group of people....

No different than putting a worm on a hook and seeing what bites. If'n you know what I mean?

Baiting is a message posted to a public forum with the intent of provoking an angry response or argument over a topic. The "troll" (original poster provoking angry response) has no real interest in, and finds humour, or entertainment in reactions. When the person creating the topic actually has an interest in it, it is not considered baiting.

Yes Pete, you are correct. Posting something that creates debate isn't trolling or baiting. It's the intent behind it that differentiates the two.

LilyBGoode (184957566) wrote:The difference between disagreements and personal attacks:

Disagreement: Person 1. I think the new glasses are hideous.
Person 2. I think they are awesome.
Person 1. I guess we can agree to disagree


Personal attack: Person 1. I think the new glasses are hideous.
Person 2. I think they are awesome
Person 1. You have no taste (personal attack)
Person 2. You always look like your mother dressed you. (personal attack).


etc.etc.etc.etc. Anytime you bring someones personality, looks, ethnicity, etc. into a disagreement its a personal attack. Hope this helps.

Maybe it is just me, but I do not see the 'personal attack' as banworthy or worth losing your acct for saying. I really hope that is not all it takes...... should there be other ways to say those things, yeah, but come on people! if THIS (in bold) really hurts your feelings...........

jlock (117593921) wrote:

LilyBGoode (184957566) wrote:The difference between disagreements and personal attacks:

Disagreement: Person 1. I think the new glasses are hideous.
Person 2. I think they are awesome.
Person 1. I guess we can agree to disagree


Personal attack: Person 1. I think the new glasses are hideous.
Person 2. I think they are awesome
Person 1. You have no taste (personal attack)
Person 2. You always look like your mother dressed you. (personal attack).


etc.etc.etc.etc. Anytime you bring someones personality, looks, ethnicity, etc. into a disagreement its a personal attack. Hope this helps.

Maybe it is just me, but I do not see the 'personal attack' as banworthy or worth losing your acct for saying. I really hope that is not all it takes...... should there be other ways to say those things, yeah, but come on people! if THIS (in bold) really hurts your feelings...........

Mind as well no one post on forums because of alot of immaturity, as for the posts or opinions between others, that IMO is not banworth At All.

LilyBGoode (184957566) wrote:The difference between disagreements and personal attacks:

Disagreement: Person 1. I think the new glasses are hideous.
Person 2. I think they are awesome.
Person 1. I guess we can agree to disagree


Personal attack: Person 1. I think the new glasses are hideous.
Person 2. I think they are awesome
Person 1. You have no taste (personal attack)
Person 2. You always look like your mother dressed you. (personal attack).


etc.etc.etc.etc. Anytime you bring someones personality, looks, ethnicity, etc. into a disagreement its a personal attack. Hope this helps.

That's how half my conversations go.

jlock (117593921) wrote:

LilyBGoode (184957566) wrote:The difference between disagreements and personal attacks:

Disagreement: Person 1. I think the new glasses are hideous.
Person 2. I think they are awesome.
Person 1. I guess we can agree to disagree


Personal attack: Person 1. I think the new glasses are hideous.
Person 2. I think they are awesome
Person 1. You have no taste (personal attack)
Person 2. You always look like your mother dressed you. (personal attack).


etc.etc.etc.etc. Anytime you bring someones personality, looks, ethnicity, etc. into a disagreement its a personal attack. Hope this helps.

Maybe it is just me, but I do not see the 'personal attack' as banworthy or worth losing your acct for saying. I really hope that is not all it takes...... should there be other ways to say those things, yeah, but come on people! if THIS (in bold) really hurts your feelings...........

No what I posted probably isn't banworthy, I was just trying to illustrate the difference between a personal attack and a disagreement. Sorry if it was confusing.

La La (119449813) wrote:

LilyBGoode (184957566) wrote:The difference between disagreements and personal attacks:

Disagreement: Person 1. I think the new glasses are hideous.
Person 2. I think they are awesome.
Person 1. I guess we can agree to disagree


Personal attack: Person 1. I think the new glasses are hideous.
Person 2. I think they are awesome
Person 1. You have no taste (personal attack)
Person 2. You always look like your mother dressed you. (personal attack).


etc.etc.etc.etc. Anytime you bring someones personality, looks, ethnicity, etc. into a disagreement its a personal attack. Hope this helps.

That's how half my conversations go.

LOL, guess we should sat our good byes.....just in case!

Paula (127963301) wrote:

La La (119449813) wrote:

LilyBGoode (184957566) wrote:The difference between disagreements and personal attacks:

Disagreement: Person 1. I think the new glasses are hideous.
Person 2. I think they are awesome.
Person 1. I guess we can agree to disagree


Personal attack: Person 1. I think the new glasses are hideous.
Person 2. I think they are awesome
Person 1. You have no taste (personal attack)
Person 2. You always look like your mother dressed you. (personal attack).


etc.etc.etc.etc. Anytime you bring someones personality, looks, ethnicity, etc. into a disagreement its a personal attack. Hope this helps.

That's how half my conversations go.

LOL, guess we should sat our good byes.....just in case!

If I go, I want it to be because I called Samberg an idiot!

La La...that would be a most excellent way to way to exit stage right.

Paula (127963301) wrote:La La...that would be a most excellent way to way to exit stage right.

It really would.

Paula (127963301) wrote:La La...that would be a most excellent way to way to exit stage right.

Totally off topic but Paula, your outfit is beyond Awesome!! Its simply completely eye-catchingly Devine!

edited to add: ….DAM LaLa..same with yours.. superb indeed!

La La (119449813) wrote:

Paula (127963301) wrote:La La...that would be a most excellent way to way to exit stage right.

It really would.

Please PM me in advance of this momentous occasion if indeed you feel the desire to call it quits and call Samberg an idiot. I'd like to get a screen shot in the event that the occasion gets hotly disputed by selective memory some time down the track.