Im more eager for new themes. New, interesting ones are more exciting then rehashed old ones.

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:You said it collecting. The only thing someone should be collecting is collectibles. I guarantee through all the complaining in the past with the rerelease people still bought the items. I collect things too... collectibles I might add. That is the purpose of them. It's not a slap in the face it's called get over it and enjoy having more item to play with.

Why should you tell me what I should collect though? If a company tells me there will not be a further release of an item, I feel safe in collecting it. I dont want to collect what everyone else is. You tell people like me to get over it, but why dont you get over not having the items released again? It goes both ways, doesnt it?

It is also about BVG making enough money to sustain us and keep us moving forward and not keep us where we currently are. You guys kill me saying you would close your wallet because a company could use the money to stay afloat and it brings new items to many players. I have also said in a past thread that all holiday themes should be collectible because they only come around once a year. That way it still gives us something to look forward too. Halloween is one of the most anticipated themes each year and it should be on a timer. However flapper and some of these other ones don't come around once a year and should remain open.

very good answer!

Voldesnort (3054329) wrote:

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:You said it collecting. The only thing someone should be collecting is collectibles. I guarantee through all the complaining in the past with the rerelease people still bought the items. I collect things too... collectibles I might add. That is the purpose of them. It's not a slap in the face it's called get over it and enjoy having more item to play with.

Why should you tell me what I should collect though? If a company tells me there will not be a further release of an item, I feel safe in collecting it. I dont want to collect what everyone else is. You tell people like me to get over it, but why dont you get over not having the items released again? It goes both ways, doesnt it?

Voldesnort (3054329) wrote:

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:You said it collecting. The only thing someone should be collecting is collectibles. I guarantee through all the complaining in the past with the rerelease people still bought the items. I collect things too... collectibles I might add. That is the purpose of them. It's not a slap in the face it's called get over it and enjoy having more item to play with.

Why should you tell me what I should collect though? If a company tells me there will not be a further release of an item, I feel safe in collecting it. I dont want to collect what everyone else is. You tell people like me to get over it, but why dont you get over not having the items released again? It goes both ways, doesnt it?

Very well said.

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:It is also about BVG making enough money to sustain us and keep us moving forward and not keep us where we currently are. You guys kill me saying you would close your wallet because a company could use the money to stay afloat and it brings new items to many players. I have also said in a past thread that all holiday themes should be collectible because they only come around once a year. That way it still gives us something to look forward too. Halloween is one of the most anticipated themes each year and it should be on a timer. However flapper and some of these other ones don't come around once a year and should remain open.

Well, maybe going forward they could make it work this way but I still don't agree with rereleasing themes that are already closed. I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

Your reasoning is not fundamentally sound though. You took the risk buying it. Zynga did not tell you that they would close the theme at the time. You took the risk because you liked the item. I'm not telling what you should be collecting. I am simply stating that it is no one's fault other than your own for you losing coins because you are collecting something that was never considered to be a collectible in the first place. You took the risk. No one pushed you to do it.

Many of the themes had timers and discounts before they closed. Also they said no rereleases. So If you believe they can just change their minds in the blink of an eye, then nothing is safe, not even collectibles.

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:Your reasoning is not fundamentally sound though. You took the risk buying it. Zynga did not tell you that they would close the theme at the time. You took the risk because you liked the item. I'm not telling what you should be collecting. I am simply stating that it is no one's fault other than your own for you losing coins because you are collecting something that was never considered to be a collectible in the first place. You took the risk. No one pushed you to do it.

For 5 years, with the exception of the 08 costumes released in 09 nothing was rereleased. It was an unspoken agreement between zynga and the players that once something left it wouldn't come back. It wasn't until they wanted their last big money grab before closing the game that they rereleased anything. I'm pretty sure we all, yourself included, were quite confident that when something left we wouldn't see it again.

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:It is also about BVG making enough money to sustain us and keep us moving forward and not keep us where we currently are. You guys kill me saying you would close your wallet because a company could use the money to stay afloat and it brings new items to many players. I have also said in a past thread that all holiday themes should be collectible because they only come around once a year. That way it still gives us something to look forward too. Halloween is one of the most anticipated themes each year and it should be on a timer. However flapper and some of these other ones don't come around once a year and should remain open.

I'll meet you half way and say: If BVG came out with a statement that they were absolutely bottom of the barrel desperate for income, and they needed to do something and do it quick, "or else" and they had the suggestion to re-release a theme. With the reason solely of getting back on their feet. Would we let them ?

That^ , I can understand. and would be able to accept it, given the drastic circumstances. But they haven't even suggested it themselvess. So really it's a pipe dream preference. and in fact they ruled it out for the sake of cementing the diehard players as being worthwhile.

As hard as it is to get items, or as sad as prices may seem, I do NOT feel entitled to get full themes re-released again just so I can get a breezy ride and another go at them.

If BVG puts out a theme and decides to never take it away. Cool. But to say people don't support the game just because they aren't on-board with the re-release campaign is false at this time imo. If BVG asked for a re-release and everybody said no, then I could see how that is not supportive of the game. Let's have BVG make their own decisions there before we point a finger and accuse.

There are still plenty of "unreleased" items BigV can release if they are desperate which I don't think is the case. They are intelligent business men who will need a degree in psychology to deal with most of the people on here.

Welp I will agree to disagree. I don't let however expect them to change their minds with a blink of an eye, but at the time there really was not a defense for keeping them open and they were just trying making the ones complaining the most happy. I'm not sure that it was completely thought thouroughly. However it is Greg ' s game and he can do what he wants with it and I will respect him no matter what.
However there was never an unspoken rule about rereleases with the players. At first zynga didn't remove themes and the game was booming. Next they removed themes to make a bunch of money fast. After realizing it hurt them in the long run they had to make up for it they rereleased items to make a bunch of money again. Each time making a lot of money.

@ Robot... either way whether you agree or not I still like ya

Robot (185180932) wrote:

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:It is also about BVG making enough money to sustain us and keep us moving forward and not keep us where we currently are. You guys kill me saying you would close your wallet because a company could use the money to stay afloat and it brings new items to many players. I have also said in a past thread that all holiday themes should be collectible because they only come around once a year. That way it still gives us something to look forward too. Halloween is one of the most anticipated themes each year and it should be on a timer. However flapper and some of these other ones don't come around once a year and should remain open.

I'll meet you half way and say: If BVG came out with a statement that they were absolutely bottom of the barrel desperate for income, and they needed to do something and do it quick, "or else" and they had the suggestion to re-release a theme. With the reason solely of getting back on their feet. Would we let them ?

That^ , I can understand. and would be able to accept it, given the drastic circumstances. But they haven't even suggested it themselvess. So really it's a pipe dream preference. and in fact they ruled it out for the sake of cementing the diehard players as being worthwhile.

As hard as it is to get items, or as sad as prices may seem, I do NOT feel entitled to get full themes re-released again just so I can get a breezy ride and another go at them.

If BVG puts out a theme and decides to never take it away. Cool. But to say people don't support the game just because they aren't on-board with the re-release campaign is false at this time imo. If BVG asked for a re-release and everybody said no, then I could see how that is not supportive of the game. Let's have BVG make their own decisions there before we point a finger and accuse.

It's not supporting them though. It is people trying to come up with a reason to turn something into a collectible that was never intended on being one in the first place. If you did that, then you took the risk. There is a loop hole in bags statement though. They said if it was available to all and was fairly removed. Well it wasn't available to all because there were people that play now that didn't play then. Whether it is new people or people to left the game for whatever reason.

Adeline (113719515) wrote:There are still plenty of "unreleased" items BigV can release if they are desperate which I don't think is the case. They are intelligent business men who will need a degree in psychology to deal with most of the people on here.

Actually there isn't that much left. Based on the picture of all the unreleased stuff there isn't much left. Also they are not making that much off of them. Refer to their thread about thanking their supporters.

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:Your reasoning is not fundamentally sound though. You took the risk buying it. Zynga did not tell you that they would close the theme at the time. You took the risk because you liked the item. I'm not telling what you should be collecting. I am simply stating that it is no one's fault other than your own for you losing coins because you are collecting something that was never considered to be a collectible in the first place. You took the risk. No one pushed you to do it.

You keep bringing up Zynga... Zynga is no longer relevant. This is BVG's game now and BVG said that they will not be re-releasing any of the items officially released by Zynga in the past... they didn't mention just collectibles, they mentioned items as a whole if they got a proper, official, release.

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:Welp I will agree to disagree. I don't let however expect them to change their minds with a blink of an eye, but at the time there really was not a defense for keeping them open and they were just trying making the ones complaining the most happy. I'm not sure that it was completely thought thouroughly. However it is Greg ' s game and he can do what he wants with it and I will respect him no matter what.
However there was never an unspoken rule about rereleases with the players. At first zynga didn't remove themes and the game was booming. Next they removed themes to make a bunch of money fast. After realizing it hurt them in the long run they had to make up for it they rereleased items to make a bunch of money again. Each time making a lot of money.

@ Robot... either way whether you agree or not I still like ya

No problem. I don't disagree that a re-release would be easy money and quick income to BVG. No doubt in my mind there. They've decided not to even go that route, though. If they decide they need to go there and explain to us why, I think people would understand the desperate circumstances. But this thread topic isn't even BVG's idea. so. . . . . . .

As for the whole *other* preference angle that's been requested, I can't say I feel we are entitled to beg for themes getting re-released just to be able to decorate with items that are now rare, & have become hard to come by. That spoils the history of the game imo.

When and IF BVG has this idea as their own, because it's in their own best interest of the game, I could agree by then... if it was a question dawned at us as a community. Until then, I am fine with the way things are.

either way... i doubt they will be rereleased. It would bring it sales at first, but will still hurt its loyal customer base.

Whatever bvg determines is good for their business, they will do. and they will do so with an eloquently stated analysis and explanation that I'm sure we'd all understand their reasoning behind. So I'll just leave it at that, as they've already made an official decision on the matter.

Whatever decision they make, there wil always be people who like and dislike it. It is impossible to make everyone happy.

At the moment, 120 people out of 200, really want or just fine with the store tems being unlocked. I would love to see 2000+ votes though...