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CocoaLatteHottieYOJ
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:46 pm
Maria (140783866) wrote:
Kailie Laroque (105663843) wrote:There is "working for it" and then there is insanity. I don't know about you but I don't want to spend every waking moment I'm not working my real life job in the game just to get one lousy window. It's frustrating. I guess some people here think that the minute things leave the store they should be up in the millions?

I can't afford right now to buy Yocash other than $20 every 2 or 3 months. What is that going to get me??? Tell me what $20 in Yocash will buy? Not much at all. I'd be lucky to get that dang bowl of strawberries. It won't get me any hairs, handhelds, or even any cute costumes as prices are so far above my financial status.

Which is why I have 0 passion right now. This game is sad. It's lost. It's impossible to do a room, let alone a house. I will NOT pour my money into a game where I get next to nothing for it. To me, it's like paying for a movie and having to leave after the first 5 minutes because you can't afford the full movie.


BRAVO!!!! Well said.



Yes, that was well said. I have bought stuff in the store because I like it, and have bought extra sometimes for friends and contest prizes. Heck I even sold a few things (and I do mean a very few) just to see how it would do in AU. Did I sell anything for millions? never! Only people trying to profit from this game (which I don't understand the logic of that because they don't technically OWN any of it, lol) are the ones who don't want to see anyone else have what they have and believe that it "lowers the value" of their beloved item. No one can lower the "value" you place on anything but YOU! I have a costume that is not one of the so-called elite costumes but it is my most loved costume. I wouldn't sell if for a billion coins because it has value to me. Do I care if BVG re-releases that costume for others to have? -NO! Why should it matter to ME if someone else has it too. That whole way of thinking seems so petty and childish to me. So to me, if BVG releases stuff FINE! If they don't FINE! It is NOT my decision to make and I'm definitely not going to keep whining and stamping my foot over it everytime someone mentions it. :roll:

Pete
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:53 pm
Willow (13350872) wrote:I'm with you on that...but I have faith in bvg. I don't believe they'll re-release. And if they ever did. I'll still play a bit just to see friends but I won't start with spending money and trying to work my way back up again. It took me long enough to get where i'm at today. I don't understand why people are still asking for re-releases. Bvg is going to put some awesome items out...I have a great feeling about that.


It's not just about getting old items, its about bringing some sanity back to the yoconomy. Re-releasing is a way to stabilize the yoconomy, not to punish older players. Even if BVG brings out new items will it have an effect on the crazy yocash rate, probably not. The yocash rate will probably just increase even more. For this game to survive it needs new players, both casual and whales, and the game needs to be affordable to new players too.

When we "worked" our way up we didn't have to contend with the current rate as new players will have to.

Rev Blonde
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:55 pm
I think they should re-release the stuff that I really want but can't afford, and none of the stuff that I have that's worth a lot.

(Just kiddin'! ;) )

Pete
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:59 pm
tink (185739646) wrote:
Pete (2679242) wrote:
tink (185739646) wrote:if BVG was to re-releas. i would never, ever purchase yocash again. EVER!!!!!


Not to be funny or anything but it says your join date is 15 may 2014. As a matter of interest, if your join date is correct, how much yocash have you purchased in the month you have been playing?


i contacted bvg to move everything to a new account and closed my old account. reason BVG they no why. i lost all my homes i had in my old account.



Thanks for being so transparent with your answer, you can edit out your amounts if you want. I really asked because I wondered how much a person would have spent in one month, but that's not the case :)

I can totally understand why people who buy lots of yocash don't want re-releases, I really do, but do you not on some level also feel that the current yocash rate is out of hand and somehow needs to be reduced. Even it re-releasing is not the answer to bring the rate down, do you think that if there was some way to reduce it it would be good for the game and new players?

Willow
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:59 pm
Pete (2679242) wrote:
Willow (13350872) wrote:I'm with you on that...but I have faith in bvg. I don't believe they'll re-release. And if they ever did. I'll still play a bit just to see friends but I won't start with spending money and trying to work my way back up again. It took me long enough to get where i'm at today. I don't understand why people are still asking for re-releases. Bvg is going to put some awesome items out...I have a great feeling about that.


It's not just about getting old items, its about bringing some sanity back to the yoconomy. Re-releasing is a way to stabilize the yoconomy, not to punish older players. Even if BVG brings out new items will it have an effect on the crazy yocash rate, probably not. The yocash rate will probably just increase even more. For this game to survive it needs new players, both casual and whales, and the game needs to be affordable to new players too.

When we "worked" our way up we didn't have to contend with the current rate as new players will have to.


The yoconomy will always have it's ups and downs that's just how all this works..many of us are willing to pay those prices. And if we weren't they wouldn't be that high. And with those items being that high and for the ones that want the more rare stuff...they're going to be buying yocash from bvg and selling it. That's how people get what they want. Pete that's what keeps this game going. Are the people that spend tons of money on the game so that they can buy and sell to finally get those items they want.

Vivica
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:00 pm
Pete (2679242) wrote:
Willow (13350872) wrote:I'm with you on that...but I have faith in bvg. I don't believe they'll re-release. And if they ever did. I'll still play a bit just to see friends but I won't start with spending money and trying to work my way back up again. It took me long enough to get where i'm at today. I don't understand why people are still asking for re-releases. Bvg is going to put some awesome items out...I have a great feeling about that.


It's not just about getting old items, its about bringing some sanity back to the yoconomy. Re-releasing is a way to stabilize the yoconomy, not to punish older players. Even if BVG brings out new items will it have an effect on the crazy yocash rate, probably not. The yocash rate will probably just increase even more. For this game to survive it needs new players, both casual and whales, and the game needs to be affordable to new players too.

When we "worked" our way up we didn't have to contend with the current rate as new players will have to.


But BVG is gonna release NEW coin items that the new players WILL be able to afford! And I don't see how anything that makes the YoCash rate increase will do this game any good. We need to give BVG more of a chance to see what they do with this game and where they take it. They've already done so much... and I have high hopes for the future and the future releases.

tink
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:05 pm
i have nothing to hide, i played from the beginning. lost my rankings. homes i can replace minus the old haunted house and casino. thing is you cant make honest players who paid into the game the legit way, pay for what the hackers did to the game. prices went up over the years with cheat cash.

Vivica
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:05 pm
Pete (2679242) wrote:
Thanks for being so transparent with your answer, you can edit out your amounts if you want. I really asked because I wondered how much a person would have spent in one month, but that's not the case :)

I can totally understand why people who buy lots of yocash don't want re-releases, I really do, but do you not on some level also feel that the current yocash rate is out of hand and somehow needs to be reduced. Even it re-releasing is not the answer to bring the rate down, do you think that if there was some way to reduce it it would be good for the game and new players?


I'm not quite sure what you're saying...

In one post you say that re-releases will probably make YoCash rates increase even more and then here you talk about wanting the YoCash rate to come down... I completely 100% agree that the YC rate SHOULD be down... but, like you said before, re-releasing things will only make it go up. I think that the only way to get the rate to decrease at this point in time would be for people to just stop buying and contributing to those rates. Take a stand together, say enough is enough and just don't buy from people who are charging outrageous prices. If not that, then hopefully BVG has some sort of idea to bring it down.

Or hopefully they release a bunch of coin items too, equivalent to what they release of YoCash items... that way everything is fair and it gives the newer players more of a chance too.

Willow
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:11 pm
Well I think the best thing to do for now, is to wait and see what bvg has up their sleeves for us. I think that might just put the people wanting re-releases to rest. We'll all just have to wait and see.

Kailie
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:11 pm
Pete (2679242) wrote:
Willow (13350872) wrote:I'm with you on that...but I have faith in bvg. I don't believe they'll re-release. And if they ever did. I'll still play a bit just to see friends but I won't start with spending money and trying to work my way back up again. It took me long enough to get where i'm at today. I don't understand why people are still asking for re-releases. Bvg is going to put some awesome items out...I have a great feeling about that.


It's not just about getting old items, its about bringing some sanity back to the yoconomy. Re-releasing is a way to stabilize the yoconomy, not to punish older players. Even if BVG brings out new items will it have an effect on the crazy yocash rate, probably not. The yocash rate will probably just increase even more. For this game to survive it needs new players, both casual and whales, and the game needs to be affordable to new players too.

When we "worked" our way up we didn't have to contend with the current rate as new players will have to.


OMG This!!! This exact thing. New players are NOT going to get the nice YC rates we all started at. They are going to jump in with both feet, have NOTHING to sell and be facing YC rates of whatever insanity rate is out there right now. What is it? 50k to 1? I lost track last year. At 600c per factory visit they are going to give up VERY quick.

Unless BVG finds a way to KEEP new players in the game - they might not have it running very long either as it will bleed upon their resources no matter how good intentioned they are. People like ME will NOT be buying YC ever again. It might not be much right now, because I'm starting over in my RL after being HOMELESS for months. I have to get my RL situation stable before I can invest in a game.

Think of the newbies before you whine. I could care less if everyone has 08's to wear or if everyone gets the same furniture in their homes. I just want to decorate and the way it sits now. I can't. It's frustrating to no end. I just log in, work my one factory shift and log out. I can't deal with the yoconomy right now. I doubt the newbies will either.

Polite Stranger
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:13 pm
You know.. if you have an issue with the yocash rate. There is always the option of buying your own.
People who purchase Yocash are the ones keeping the game afloat.. if they want to charge 100k-1yo, they most certainly can.
I would never bite the hand that feeds.. their money, their price.

IrishBeach
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:15 pm
It all boils down to wanting what's best for the community or what's best for me. Nothing more nothing less.

Edit to add-- and what's best for the community is a guessing game.

tink
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:15 pm
i paid 25 yo for royal indian horse put it up for auction without a beginning cap sold 150k, not everybody is greedy

Vivica
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:19 pm
Polite Stranger (171090528) wrote:You know.. if you have an issue with the yocash rate. There is always the option of buying your own.
People who purchase Yocash are the ones keeping the game afloat.. if they want to charge 100k-1yo, they most certainly can.
I would never bite the hand that feeds.. their money, their price.


This.

I do think that YoCash rates are a little out of hand however I also realize that people are spending their own, real life, hard earned money to buy YoCash in game and I respect their decision to sell it at whatever price. If I don't like it, I buy my own when I can afford it, do without or wait for it to come down later on (because sometimes this occurs too.)

Pete
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:24 pm
Vivica (13404458) wrote:I'm not quite sure what you're saying...

In one post you say that re-releases will probably make YoCash rates increase even more and then here you talk about wanting the YoCash rate to come down... I completely 100% agree that the YC rate SHOULD be down... but, like you said before, re-releasing things will only make it go up. I think that the only way to get the rate to decrease at this point in time would be for people to just stop buying and contributing to those rates. Take a stand together, say enough is enough and just don't buy from people who are charging outrageous prices. If not that, then hopefully BVG has some sort of idea to bring it down.

Or hopefully they release a bunch of coin items too, equivalent to what they release of YoCash items... that way everything is fair and it gives the newer players more of a chance too.


Pete (2679242) wrote:It's not just about getting old items, its about bringing some sanity back to the yoconomy. Re-releasing is a way to stabilize the yoconomy, not to punish older players. Even if BVG brings out new items will it have an effect on the crazy yocash rate, probably not. The yocash rate will probably just increase even more. For this game to survive it needs new players, both casual and whales, and the game needs to be affordable to new players too.

When we "worked" our way up we didn't have to contend with the current rate as new players will have to.


If your underlined refers to the underlined in my post, what I meant was that BVG's items would be sold at the current yocash rate once it leaves stores. As the yocash rate generally increases and hardly ever decreases, I meant that it is logical that the rate will continue to climb anyway as that's what it has always done. BVG's newly released items will do nothing to stop the rate climbing. I wasn't referring to re-releases making the rate climb. I am still of the opinion that re-releasing is one way to stabilize the yoconomy and make it attractive to new players. For me both the yocash rate and some prices need to come down a bit. Some prices on items are just insane, 600k for some strawberries for example. It's crazy.

Polite Stranger
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:25 pm
Vivica (13404458) wrote:
Polite Stranger (171090528) wrote:You know.. if you have an issue with the yocash rate. There is always the option of buying your own.
People who purchase Yocash are the ones keeping the game afloat.. if they want to charge 100k-1yo, they most certainly can.
I would never bite the hand that feeds.. their money, their price.


This.

I do think that YoCash rates are a little out of hand however I also realize that people are spending their own, real life, hard earned money to buy YoCash in game and I respect their decision to sell it at whatever price. If I don't like it, I buy my own when I can afford it, do without or wait for it to come down later on (because sometimes this occurs too.)


I think they are fair with any price they put since without the Yocash dealers, none of us would be able to get those items regardless. Yocash fairly inflated with the raise of older prices, which in a normal community is bound to happen. Every RPG I have ever played with a player-based economy has 'rares' and they keep the game afloat based on newer players drive to purchase in game wealth in order to afford them. Yocash could be sold at anything and I honestly would still thank them for even being willing to use their hard earned money to give us yocash items in exchange for our coins that can be earned without even purchasing anything. We are lucky we HAVE Yocash dealers, and so many people have the audacity to judge or talk down to them.

Kailie
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:26 pm
Polite Stranger (171090528) wrote:You know.. if you have an issue with the yocash rate. There is always the option of buying your own.
People who purchase Yocash are the ones keeping the game afloat.. if they want to charge 100k-1yo, they most certainly can.
I would never bite the hand that feeds.. their money, their price.


Yeah there is the option if I was Bill Gates or Rockefeller. Don't you think if I COULD buy YC then I would? 100k to 1? So a 12yc couch should cost 1,200,000 coins?? Yeah that makes me want to play. Not a chance.

I'm doing what I can to keep patient and see what BVG has up their sleeves for this issue. I hope like heck they fix the yoconomy. I want my fun decorating game back. Not this mess I see now. Way back when YC dealers were affordable. Not so more now. I have 200k on my account right now and have no plans to sell 40 to 50 items in my inventory to buy just 1 insanely overpriced YC item. Most of the stuff I have, everyone probably has plenty of anyway as it was all coins items in the store on clearance. Other people stocked up way more than I could afford.

BVG my hopes are on you..... Don't let me down.

Vivica
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:28 pm
Pete (2679242) wrote:
Vivica (13404458) wrote:I'm not quite sure what you're saying...

In one post you say that re-releases will probably make YoCash rates increase even more and then here you talk about wanting the YoCash rate to come down... I completely 100% agree that the YC rate SHOULD be down... but, like you said before, re-releasing things will only make it go up. I think that the only way to get the rate to decrease at this point in time would be for people to just stop buying and contributing to those rates. Take a stand together, say enough is enough and just don't buy from people who are charging outrageous prices. If not that, then hopefully BVG has some sort of idea to bring it down.

Or hopefully they release a bunch of coin items too, equivalent to what they release of YoCash items... that way everything is fair and it gives the newer players more of a chance too.


Pete (2679242) wrote:It's not just about getting old items, its about bringing some sanity back to the yoconomy. Re-releasing is a way to stabilize the yoconomy, not to punish older players. Even if BVG brings out new items will it have an effect on the crazy yocash rate, probably not. The yocash rate will probably just increase even more. For this game to survive it needs new players, both casual and whales, and the game needs to be affordable to new players too.

When we "worked" our way up we didn't have to contend with the current rate as new players will have to.


If your underlined refers to the underlined in my post, what I meant was that BVG's items would be sold at the current yocash rate once it leaves stores. As the yocash rate generally increases and hardly ever decreases, I meant that it is logical that the rate will continue to climb anyway as that's what it has always done. BVG's newly released items will do nothing to stop the rate climbing. I wasn't referring to re-releases making the rate climb. I am still of the opinion that re-releasing is one way to stabilize the yoconomy and make it attractive to new players. For me both the yocash rate and some prices need to come down a bit. Some prices on items are just insane, 600k for some strawberries for example. It's crazy.



Oh, okay. Gotcha! It just confused me there for a second... :P

Vivica
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:29 pm
Polite Stranger (171090528) wrote:
Vivica (13404458) wrote:
Polite Stranger (171090528) wrote:You know.. if you have an issue with the yocash rate. There is always the option of buying your own.
People who purchase Yocash are the ones keeping the game afloat.. if they want to charge 100k-1yo, they most certainly can.
I would never bite the hand that feeds.. their money, their price.


This.

I do think that YoCash rates are a little out of hand however I also realize that people are spending their own, real life, hard earned money to buy YoCash in game and I respect their decision to sell it at whatever price. If I don't like it, I buy my own when I can afford it, do without or wait for it to come down later on (because sometimes this occurs too.)


I think they are fair with any price they put since without the Yocash dealers, none of us would be able to get those items regardless. Yocash fairly inflated with the raise of older prices, which in a normal community is bound to happen. Every RPG I have ever played with a player-based economy has 'rares' and they keep the game afloat based on newer players drive to purchase in game wealth in order to afford them. Yocash could be sold at anything and I honestly would still thank them for even being willing to use their hard earned money to give us yocash items in exchange for our coins that can be earned without even purchasing anything. We are lucky we HAVE Yocash dealers, and so many people have the audacity to judge or talk down to them.


Well said. :P

Polite Stranger
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:31 pm
Kailie Laroque (105663843) wrote:
Polite Stranger (171090528) wrote:You know.. if you have an issue with the yocash rate. There is always the option of buying your own.
People who purchase Yocash are the ones keeping the game afloat.. if they want to charge 100k-1yo, they most certainly can.
I would never bite the hand that feeds.. their money, their price.


Yeah there is the option if I was Bill Gates or Rockefeller. Don't you think if I COULD buy YC then I would? 100k to 1? So a 12yc couch should cost 1,200,000 coins?? Yeah that makes me want to play. Not a chance.

I'm doing what I can to keep patient and see what BVG has up their sleeves for this issue. I hope like heck they fix the yoconomy. I want my fun decorating game back. Not this mess I see now. Way back when YC dealers were affordable. Not so more now. I have 200k on my account right now and have no plans to sell 40 to 50 items in my inventory to buy just 1 insanely overpriced YC item. Most of the stuff I have, everyone probably has plenty of anyway as it was all coins items in the store on clearance. Other people stocked up way more than I could afford.

BVG my hopes are on you..... Don't let me down.


Demands, Demands. That's what every game developers love.
Do you think I live in some lap of luxury? No, I buy yocash when I CAN, I don't have every single thing I've ever wanted but you don't see me complaining on how 'Yocash Dealers' have ruined the game. Without them, I am pretty sure decorating would be impossible. We lost all of our generous, give-away Yocash dealers from un-relenting greed. Again, I will repeat myself.. Yocash dealers do not have to sell to you if they choose not to, be grateful for them keeping the game afloat while bringing more items into game for all of us to enjoy. If decorating is what you want.. there are plenty of nice coin items to decorate with.. then again, you want what you want and don't care how you come off to others just because you want cheap yocash items.
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