Flatch Ulater MYP (13247207) wrote:

Willow (13350872) wrote:

Flatch Ulater MYP (13247207) wrote:just keep in mind.. that when the shiny pants start selling for multi million coins... if they are brought back into game, then all items are fair game.. and I read.. yes, I read, gary's words.. if gouging on the pants happens, he will bring them back.. then that same rule, HAS to be applied across the board.. right???

No sorry that's not how it goes The shiny green pants didn't even get a chance to become rare.

rare is not about age.. is about availability ... they were removed before everyone bought them.. in fact not many bought them... and so, that makes them rare, because not many bought them, not the age of item.. celtic cross was short term release, not everyone had the chance to buy it.. mouth urinal was removed before everyone had a chance to buy it.. same with the gary pants... not about age, is about how many are in game.. and there are soooo many fake celtic crosses in game for instance.. its the ppl that made them, store them like coins.. selling them at very high prices.. and have endless supply of coins in doing so..

Sorry but the age of an item makes it rare and Gary and the Bvg team know that.

YBL BeeBee ill WTO (103384668) wrote:

Flatch Ulater MYP (13247207) wrote:I'm not commenting anymore

promise?

nope... no promises... ... I think everything should be released

It's important for BVG to note that many of the authors of these threads paint the opposing side in a negative light using words such as begging, whining, complaining, crying etc. This is a common tactic used by both sides to paint themselves as good holier than though people whose cause is worthier then the opposing side. People not wanting re-releases are trying very hard to protect their riches, some of which were gained through very suspicious behavior. Some of us went through the re-release phase by Zynga and took great pleasure in it. It is important to note that Zynga did indeed re-release some 08 costumes during this period as well as some rares. Misinformation is also very commonly used tactic during disagreements such as this to entrench the particular viewpoint of the instigator.

While BVG's statement is very clear many people still refuse to believe and accept that there are two conditions and both must be met for the answer to be no. Sentences containing conditions are very confusing to some people and they continue to misinterpret the statement, trying to bend it to suit their needs.

3. Will old items and collectibles be re-released?
Gary: If the item was officially released previously and everyone had the opportunity to get it, then no. We know item rarity and value is very important to the players, and we respect that.

The plutocrats have long lorded their riches over the poor, mocking the poor with derogatory terms such as "poor noob" or creating events at which the poor are discriminated against. It is common to see events with no noobs or RICH in their descriptions. These people take pleasure in creating a class culture in which the poor eat scraps off the floor while the rich feast at their table of iniquity. People against a level playing field or against discussion around items and releases seem to buy into the plutocratic lifestyle wholeheartedly and their intentions must be carefully scrutinized.

Pete (2679242) wrote:It's important for BVG to note that many of the authors of these threads paint the opposing side in a negative light using words such as begging, whining, complaining, crying etc. This is a common tactic used by both sides to paint themselves as good holier than though people. People not wanting re-releases are trying very hard to protect their riches, some of which were gained through very suspicious behavior. Some of us went through the re-release phase by Zynga and took great pleasure in it. It is important to note that Zynga did indeed re-release some 08 costumes during this period as well as some rares. Misinformation is also very commonly used tactic during disagreements such as this to entrench the particular viewpoint of the instigator.

While BVG's statement is very clear many people still refuse to believe and accept that there are two conditions and both must be met for the answer to be no. Sentences containing conditions are very confusing to some people and they continue to misinterpret the statement, trying to bend it to suit their needs.

3. Will old items and collectibles be re-released?
Gary: If the item was officially released previously and everyone had the opportunity to get it, then no. We know item rarity and value is very important to the players, and we respect that.

The plutocrats have long lorded their riches over the poor, mocking the poor with derogatory terms such as "poor noob" or creating events at which the poor are discriminated against. It is common to see events with no noobs or RICH in their descriptions. These people take pleasure in creating a class culture in which the poor eat scraps off the floor while the rich feast at their table of iniquity. People against a level playing field or against discussion around items and releases seem to buy into the plutocratic lifestyle wholeheartedly and their intentions must be carefully scrutinized.

so does this mean, short time releases may possibly be released, because not everyone had the chance to buy ??

And it's really no different then those that call people that don't want re-releases whiners and cry babies and such. The double standards are out there no matter how you look at it. They call people snobs and so on when not everyone is like that.

Flatch Ulater MYP (13247207) wrote:so does this mean, short time releases may possibly be released, because not everyone had the chance to buy ??

Yes, short time and accidental releases may possibly be released as not everyone had time during the few seconds they were in game to buy them.

the tiger rug.. should be released to all.. was NEVER available to every player.. for instance

Flatch Ulater MYP (13247207) wrote:

Pete (2679242) wrote:It's important for BVG to note that many of the authors of these threads paint the opposing side in a negative light using words such as begging, whining, complaining, crying etc. This is a common tactic used by both sides to paint themselves as good holier than though people. People not wanting re-releases are trying very hard to protect their riches, some of which were gained through very suspicious behavior. Some of us went through the re-release phase by Zynga and took great pleasure in it. It is important to note that Zynga did indeed re-release some 08 costumes during this period as well as some rares. Misinformation is also very commonly used tactic during disagreements such as this to entrench the particular viewpoint of the instigator.

While BVG's statement is very clear many people still refuse to believe and accept that there are two conditions and both must be met for the answer to be no. Sentences containing conditions are very confusing to some people and they continue to misinterpret the statement, trying to bend it to suit their needs.

3. Will old items and collectibles be re-released?
Gary: If the item was officially released previously and everyone had the opportunity to get it, then no. We know item rarity and value is very important to the players, and we respect that.

The plutocrats have long lorded their riches over the poor, mocking the poor with derogatory terms such as "poor noob" or creating events at which the poor are discriminated against. It is common to see events with no noobs or RICH in their descriptions. These people take pleasure in creating a class culture in which the poor eat scraps off the floor while the rich feast at their table of iniquity. People against a level playing field or against discussion around items and releases seem to buy into the plutocratic lifestyle wholeheartedly and their intentions must be carefully scrutinized.

so does this mean, short time releases may possibly be released, because not everyone had the chance to buy ??

To be honest I have no clue what they mean by that. I mean anyone that played the game at that point and time did have the chance to get it. I don't know if those items will be put back out there or not.

Adeline (113719515) wrote:Soos, I addressed this to the game moderators. The fact that others, including yourself, chose to vent on it, is not my concern. Some share my desire for further clarification. Some just want to continue to plead their case as to why they should get everything made available.

Shoot them a pm then. It's a public forum. You knew it was bound to to continue the drama you've complained about.

Yeah. Nope. Still not interesting.
It's like reading the same page in a book over and over and over...and so on...and so on...et cetera...et cetera

Willow (13350872) wrote:

Flatch Ulater MYP (13247207) wrote:so does this mean, short time releases may possibly be released, because not everyone had the chance to buy ??

To be honest I have no clue what they mean by that. I mean anyone that played the game at that point and time did have the chance to get it. I don't know if those items will be put back out there or not.

If an item was in game for a few seconds then not everyone would have had a chance to buy it. People from different time zones all over the world play this

PurpleLine (11530743) wrote:Yeah. Nope. Still not interesting.
It's like reading the same page in a book over and over and over...and so on...and so on...et cetera...et cetera

Are you The Purple, if so, don't you have inside information that could shed some light on why certain items were pulled from the stores by the previous owners?

The thing is bvg will be the ones to decide what should be put back out there. And if they decide to put those items back in stores...so be it. I do know that they know the rarity of the older items and I believe they'll stick with what they said. There's really no argument on that one because they already stated it. It's just that some still don't want to get it.

Pete (2679242) wrote:

Willow (13350872) wrote:

Flatch Ulater MYP (13247207) wrote:so does this mean, short time releases may possibly be released, because not everyone had the chance to buy ??

To be honest I have no clue what they mean by that. I mean anyone that played the game at that point and time did have the chance to get it. I don't know if those items will be put back out there or not.

If an item was in game for a few seconds then not everyone would have had a chance to buy it. People from different time zones all over the world play this

Well..it's all up to bvg on what they want to do. That might be your opinion and I have mine but no one knows how they feel about it

I hope they feel that it's not fair that everyone didn't get a chance to buy what others did.. or give new players a chance to get an old costume... how is a new player suppose to get a ninja or mummy?? or big daddy?? those coveted costumes can never be obtained.. "save your money" won't work.. prices rise faster than ppl can make coins.. so.. how does BVG generate new players interest?? and how to keep them in game?? when they see they best items and know they can never get them..

Flatch Ulater MYP (13247207) wrote:the tiger rug.. should be released to all.. was NEVER available to every player.. for instance

It was available to every player who played at that time. it had a timer and was in store the whole of that time. Valjean for instance was pulled without warning as was the cross and all the other short release stuff. It was not available to everyone. The tiger rug does not compare to any of the short releases since it was available to everyone at the time.
It doesnt matter to me anymore. I just roll with the flow. i dont even care about collecting much anymore. I have a collection that i will finish and then see how I feel about it. the rerelease and release thing has been dragged through the wringer so often that all the words become meaningless strings of nonsense.

Flatch Ulater MYP (13247207) wrote:just keep in mind.. that when the shiny pants start selling for multi million coins... if they are brought back into game, then all items are fair game.. and I read.. yes, I read, gary's words.. if gouging on the pants happens, he will bring them back.. then that same rule, HAS to be applied across the board.. right???

No it doesn't. Gary stated that specifically about the pants. He's additionally stated that he understands rarity of items and their value to players....and he respects that. The pants situation is different because all current players could've purchased them but they were removed. So re-releasing them would be to the same set of players. The 08 costumes, cupids bow, celtic cross and such were made available to all players in 08 and 09 - you had to be playing then to get them. Releasing them now would negate the benefit/reward of playing long-term. Many many players have put years into this game and hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars.

I am all for putting the past to rest. Let it all die...

Bring on the BVG original items...let's move forward..........

PLEASE!

Willow (13350872) wrote:The thing is bvg will be the ones to decide what should be put back out there. And if they decide to put those items back in stores...so be it. I do know that they know the rarity of the older items and I believe they'll stick with what they said. There's really no argument on that one because they already stated it. It's just that some still don't want to get it.

I'd have no problem with that statement, save for your fervent insistence that the menorah wouldn't be released. Is it really about what BVG actually says or your interpretation of it

snorty (3054329) wrote:

Flatch Ulater MYP (13247207) wrote:the tiger rug.. should be released to all.. was NEVER available to every player.. for instance

It was available to every player who played at that time. it had a timer and was in store the whole of that time. Valjean for instance was pulled without warning as was the cross and all the other short release stuff. It was not available to everyone. The tiger rug does not compare to any of the short releases since it was available to everyone at the time.
It doesnt matter to me anymore. I just roll with the flow. i dont even care about collecting much anymore. I have a collection that i will finish and then see how I feel about it. the rerelease and release thing has been dragged through the wringer so often that all the words become meaningless strings of nonsense.

so wrong!!! you are sooo wrong.. was for VIP only.. I went to buy it, wasnt able to because I wasn't vip.. yet vip wasn't even in game at that point.. not publicly.... so no.. was not available to all.. sorry, dead wrong on that.. I know that 1st hand.. not rumor.. I tried to buy it.. could NOT!