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Amaya
YoLover

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Fri Jun 07, 2024 5:22 pm
Viking Andrew wrote:I’d like to take a moment to clarify a few things on behalf of the team:

Whenever we look at taking action in game, our first focus is to make a change that impacts as small of a player group as possible. It doesn’t matter if it’s a bug, or an art issue, or a problem with a larger feature like the Buddy List - we know any change that’s made to YoWorld on a large scale has a chance to truly, genuinely harm your experience. I hope, at the very least, this can convey that the seriousness of this issue meant we could not stand by idly after we discovered the risk to our community at large.

We cannot fully discuss the details behind the trouble with our Paint Boards, but we can say that the main issue involved the use of uploaded images, violating ToS, and as such, we are required to remove this feature. In disabling them there have been a lot of valid points brought up within the community that should be addressed. Mostly around the way we’ve gone about our current, temporary solution.

    Why disable all Paint Boards? The issue we needed to address in Paint Boards required us to disable the feature as the only means of protecting the community. This is due to the way the Paint Boards item works. As an older item, with older code, the solutions we have access to are much more limited.

    Can’t we just fix it? Any change we would make to this feature would require a total overhaul of the Paint Board item.

    Why didn’t you let me save my work? This is, currently, not how Paint Boards work. While the images are saved locally, any change or update to the Paint Board feature means that any work on the item as it currently exists is lost.

    Will I get my images back? We understand how important this feature is to our players and we are actively exploring ways to address this concern.

Our team understands that these items don’t just represent creative fun - they’re an investment you’ve made. We aren’t ready to discuss compensation with the community yet, but we’re absolutely going to find a way to make this right.

The very nature of the item means that the second something was to go wrong, or any fix needed to be made, your work was at risk. Naturally, this wasn’t a problem when the item was working as intended. When things are fine, there’s nothing to worry about.

With this particular discovery of a ToS violating complication in Paint Boards action needed to be swiftly taken, which meant that the underlying issue within Paint Boards arrived much sooner than we expected.

Our team is extremely aware of the way Paint Boards are used. We know these items are integral to many social events, and have become a key component in your decorating. The art that you’re showing off here is a true testament to that. We also know that these items are key parts of events, trading, conversations between players, and are a staple to allowing you to decorate in creative ways our team can only begin to catch up on. So where does that leave us?

Our team is working on a solution for this particular issue. This situation involving Paint Boards is complicated, but we have a lot of faith in our team’s ability to resolve this issue.

We know you probably have questions, and we’ll be opening up a thread here for you to focus them all in one place.


Literally nothing you say can make this better. It's all just bad excuses. Why is a total over haul of the system too much for y'all to do? Yes you could have let people screen shot and save their images before destroying them. There is no way you guys could have thought this would go over well when you say your team knows "extremely well" how they are used, at least not if you live in reality. Now y'all are trying to backpedal and say it's a temporary solution.
You may claim to have faith in your teams ability to resolve the issue, but how can you expect any of us to have the same faith when it has been so very eroded over the last few years?

SimchaJoy YFDCAPT4
YoNovice

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Registered: Sep 22, 2009
Posts: 32

Fri Jun 07, 2024 5:37 pm
I agree with you AsstchiefAmma. I hope BVG has an answer. :heart:

SimchaJoy YFDCAPT4
YoNovice

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Registered: Sep 22, 2009
Posts: 32

Fri Jun 07, 2024 5:48 pm
BVG we love our game. It's so sad that this over all game disabling of Paint Boards, as you have heard was not just a game to many had to take place. Real monies was spent. This is like a Nuclear Bomb hit the game for many of us.

Thank you for sharing more detail into why it took place. I just wish that BVG could have given us all a Heads up before taking action.
Since YoWorld was actively under an attack by a cyberbully or bullies, then it makes a lot of sense.
This does explain why you had to take the measures that you did.
I hope that your investigation will reveal the evil culprits; who caused a major shut down of these boards.
Maybe even display their avatar names and photos afterwards.

We want them found out, and permanently banned from the game for sure; to prevent further issues within the game.
Theft has been operating on the game for some time.
Maybe this will be a good clean up, of those persons. I hope so.

Thank you for all that you do BVG, again we do love the game.
I have bonds with such beautiful friends, that I've met on this game.
Please help us, so that we can in turn help you in the game.
Big Hugs. :heart: :love:

Soylent Blue
YoSupporter

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Registered: Apr 15, 2010
Posts: 500

Fri Jun 07, 2024 5:49 pm
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Dia
YoCrazy

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Registered: Mar 13, 2012
Posts: 23879

Fri Jun 07, 2024 5:51 pm
Amaya (139390344) wrote:
Viking Andrew wrote:I’d like to take a moment to clarify a few things on behalf of the team:

Whenever we look at taking action in game, our first focus is to make a change that impacts as small of a player group as possible. It doesn’t matter if it’s a bug, or an art issue, or a problem with a larger feature like the Buddy List - we know any change that’s made to YoWorld on a large scale has a chance to truly, genuinely harm your experience. I hope, at the very least, this can convey that the seriousness of this issue meant we could not stand by idly after we discovered the risk to our community at large.

We cannot fully discuss the details behind the trouble with our Paint Boards, but we can say that the main issue involved the use of uploaded images, violating ToS, and as such, we are required to remove this feature. In disabling them there have been a lot of valid points brought up within the community that should be addressed. Mostly around the way we’ve gone about our current, temporary solution.

    Why disable all Paint Boards? The issue we needed to address in Paint Boards required us to disable the feature as the only means of protecting the community. This is due to the way the Paint Boards item works. As an older item, with older code, the solutions we have access to are much more limited.

    Can’t we just fix it? Any change we would make to this feature would require a total overhaul of the Paint Board item.

    Why didn’t you let me save my work? This is, currently, not how Paint Boards work. While the images are saved locally, any change or update to the Paint Board feature means that any work on the item as it currently exists is lost.

    Will I get my images back? We understand how important this feature is to our players and we are actively exploring ways to address this concern.

Our team understands that these items don’t just represent creative fun - they’re an investment you’ve made. We aren’t ready to discuss compensation with the community yet, but we’re absolutely going to find a way to make this right.

The very nature of the item means that the second something was to go wrong, or any fix needed to be made, your work was at risk. Naturally, this wasn’t a problem when the item was working as intended. When things are fine, there’s nothing to worry about.

With this particular discovery of a ToS violating complication in Paint Boards action needed to be swiftly taken, which meant that the underlying issue within Paint Boards arrived much sooner than we expected.

Our team is extremely aware of the way Paint Boards are used. We know these items are integral to many social events, and have become a key component in your decorating. The art that you’re showing off here is a true testament to that. We also know that these items are key parts of events, trading, conversations between players, and are a staple to allowing you to decorate in creative ways our team can only begin to catch up on. So where does that leave us?

Our team is working on a solution for this particular issue. This situation involving Paint Boards is complicated, but we have a lot of faith in our team’s ability to resolve this issue.

We know you probably have questions, and we’ll be opening up a thread here for you to focus them all in one place.


Literally nothing you say can make this better. It's all just bad excuses. Why is a total over haul of the system too much for y'all to do? Yes you could have let people screen shot and save their images before destroying them. There is no way you guys could have thought this would go over well when you say your team knows "extremely well" how they are used, at least not if you live in reality. Now y'all are trying to backpedal and say it's a temporary solution.
You may claim to have faith in your teams ability to resolve the issue, but how can you expect any of us to have the same faith when it has been so very eroded over the last few years?

:thumbsup:

Kirill
YoApprentice

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Registered: Dec 25, 2015
Posts: 158

Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:03 pm
Viking Andrew wrote:I’d like to take a moment to clarify a few things on behalf of the team
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thank you for providing an update and hopefully you really are taking this seriously. I will be waiting to find out what comes from this.

I think an acceptable solution, for me, would be
1. offer new items that work the same/similar way with modern code, that is easier for you to report/moderate
2. provide downloadable image copies of all past paintboards to users to be able to save them permanently and/or migrate the images to the new item.
I am not an expert :silly: but I very much doubt that BVG doesn't have the images themselves saved somewhere that could be retrieved.

C C
YoRegular

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Registered: Nov 16, 2009
Posts: 433

Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:06 pm
not a fan...this is a bit extreme, don't you think??

Eliza Whitehorn
YoNewbie

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Registered: Jun 17, 2011
Posts: 3

Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:13 pm
I truly hope you’re happy. You’ve taken art that people can’t even get back most likely. You only care about how much money your game pulls in. I cancelled my VIP, I’m not buying yo cash again and neither are some people I’ve seen. Good luck ruining the rest of the game. Saying this was your only solution, sure it was.

JeanMarc
YoNewbie

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Registered: Aug 22, 2009
Posts: 9

Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:29 pm
What is exactly ToS ? Is it the rules you have decided upon as the Yoworld team ?
It is not clear at all...

You have been quick to distroy. I wish you will be quick to fix the mess left after your action. You are blocking all positive creativity for the moment.

Mir
YoAdmirer

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Registered: May 17, 2009
Posts: 2077

Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:38 pm
No disrespect meant to you at all Viking Andrew, or a few other Vikings I've had the pleasure of conversing with.
This is the end for me.
Rooms I made that included paintboards were for one of two reasons.

1. It was a memorial room I made for a friend that used to play this game who died years ago. That room and the ability to still be able to visit her and leave her a message even though I know she'll never read them, meant a lot to me.

2. It was a room from a movie that captured me and the ability to recreate it on another platform was really inspirational for me. I made that room in here then painted it on canvas for my niece who loves the movie.

I'm done.
Regardless of what BVG reasons are. Once again, you ignored what the outcome might cause for the most important people who keep your game going.

JulieHootieScraps
YoCrazy

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Registered: Jul 11, 2009
Posts: 23446

Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:43 pm
Mir (102794171) wrote:No disrespect meant to you at all Viking Andrew, or a few other Vikings I've had the pleasure of conversing with.
This is the end for me.
Rooms I made that included paintboards were for one of two reasons.

1. It was a memorial room I made for a friend that used to play this game who died years ago. That room and the ability to still be able to visit her and leave her a message even though I know she'll never read them, meant a lot to me.

2. It was a room from a movie that captured me and the ability to recreate it on another platform was really inspirational for me. I made that room in here then painted it on canvas for my niece who loves the movie.

I'm done.
Regardless of what BVG reasons are. Once again, you ignored what the outcome might cause for the most important people who keep your game going.

I'm so sorry to hear this, but I don't blame you. This whole situation just confirmed how little we players mean to BVG.

Viking Andrew
The Best Taco Artist

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Posts: 5115

Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:50 pm
Eliza Whitehorn (178680937) wrote:I truly hope you’re happy. You’ve taken art that people can’t even get back most likely. You only care about how much money your game pulls in. I cancelled my VIP, I’m not buying yo cash again and neither are some people I’ve seen. Good luck ruining the rest of the game. Saying this was your only solution, sure it was.


Believe me, we're not happy.

This is not something that we wanted to do, it is something that we had to do. Again, I can't get into specifics, but wiping boards is something that we were required to do.

I genuinely wish there was an alternative route we could have taken.

Viking Andrew
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Fri Jun 07, 2024 6:52 pm
Mir (102794171) wrote:No disrespect meant to you at all Viking Andrew, or a few other Vikings I've had the pleasure of conversing with.
This is the end for me.
Rooms I made that included paintboards were for one of two reasons.

1. It was a memorial room I made for a friend that used to play this game who died years ago. That room and the ability to still be able to visit her and leave her a message even though I know she'll never read them, meant a lot to me.

2. It was a room from a movie that captured me and the ability to recreate it on another platform was really inspirational for me. I made that room in here then painted it on canvas for my niece who loves the movie.

I'm done.
Regardless of what BVG reasons are. Once again, you ignored what the outcome might cause for the most important people who keep your game going.


Reading stories like this breaks my heart.

I am so terribly sorry. I wish we had some way to avoid putting YoFans through this, and I hope that, in time, we can earn back your support.

JulieHootieScraps
YoCrazy

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Registered: Jul 11, 2009
Posts: 23446

Fri Jun 07, 2024 7:00 pm
....earn back our support? THAT'S RICH!!! There is NOTHING you can do or provide that could replace hours and often years of trying to perfect our properties with our love and passion for a game -- it just proved we mean zip to BVG. There are many friends of mine who have passed away over the years, and their memory boards are gone now. How is it that for year after year there was no issue with the boards but in one fell swoop and with zero warning, you took that away from us cruelly and harshly? You can't replace what you have stolen from us. It's like another death. Every time I visit my properties that had boards, it will make me sad and more bitter. Time won't fix that. BVG has empty word after empty word. We have requested many things, especially more and better decor, and it just goes to PDE or Slots.

Robyn VIP
YoDedicated

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Registered: Jan 27, 2009
Posts: 6277

Fri Jun 07, 2024 7:04 pm
Viking Andrew wrote:
Eliza Whitehorn (178680937) wrote:I truly hope you’re happy. You’ve taken art that people can’t even get back most likely. You only care about how much money your game pulls in. I cancelled my VIP, I’m not buying yo cash again and neither are some people I’ve seen. Good luck ruining the rest of the game. Saying this was your only solution, sure it was.


Believe me, we're not happy.

This is not something that we wanted to do, it is something that we had to do. Again, I can't get into specifics, but wiping boards is something that we were required to do.

I genuinely wish there was an alternative route we could have taken.


I don't understand why you can't tell us 'specifics', especially since erasing the boards fixed things on your end. We might feel better if we had details.

pandaid YED
YoAficionado

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Registered: Aug 01, 2009
Posts: 3047

Fri Jun 07, 2024 7:04 pm
Ty BVG for destroying a bunch of my rooms! I'm so irritated & frustrated at this outrageous & ridiculous removal of all paint board art because of some stupid arses. Seriously you could have just reprimanded those offenders instead of taking away from everyone! Now my special rooms because of the paint board art that a dear friend made for me are worthless. I've lost the special Super Hero room that I made for my 2 Grandsons, my Granddaughter's Ariel mermaid room, her name is Ariel, my room that I created for my dear Yo friend that made my paint boards room is now incomplete, I've lost the memorial rooms that I made for 1 of our GSD who passed away, along with so many rooms that are now totally ruined. Do you know how hard it was to create these special rooms & how much time it took me to design them? They were priceless & you supposedly think that you can compensate for that? What you did was beyond wrong!!!! You keep going downhill & don't give a crap how it affects the majority of players. You've really sunk the ship this time! What a dirty deal the community of Yo got this time! I'm sorry but this is beyond belief & a total disaster! Showing a few of the rooms that you've now ruined. How can you possibly even begin to think that you can compensate for this utter destruction & chaos?

Grandsons's Super Hero room with paint boards.

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Without the paint boards it's now a worthless room.

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Granddaughter's Mermaid room with paint boards.

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Our GSD is missing now from the book front.

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Another room for our GSD that also had paint board of our disabled daughter playing in the snow with him.

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It's a destroyed room now.

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Love's Lair that I made because of our friendship & she was my paint board artist. I had her make herself on paint board for this room.

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Now it's a meaningless room.

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1 of my favorite Christmas rooms that used a lot of paint board & took a really long time to position ea. board correctly.

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Now it's worthless.

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My haunted countryside

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Now it's nothing.

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My Avatar rooms with paint board

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Now my Avatar rooms have lost their meaning.

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Willow Amelia
YoNewbie

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Registered: Sep 14, 2008
Posts: 3

Fri Jun 07, 2024 7:08 pm
KEEP CANCELLING THOSE VIP MEMBERSHIPS. I am sure they had a lot of those in the first 24 hours. I was one of them. Don't buy YC. Don't buy anything that benefits BVG. They dont't care about us. Girls, we have enough hairs. Boycott all purchases to show them the biggest mistake they have made. ONLY WAY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN is STAND STRONG. STAND UNITED. BOYCOTT.

sweet nikki
YoNovice

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Registered: May 20, 2009
Posts: 33

Fri Jun 07, 2024 7:08 pm
A lot of people use those boards to remember a loved one who has passed on. I posted this on FB today about what BVG is doing, and I am upset. "This is so painfully wrong!!!! My mom also a played this game, sadly passed away. Before I had her Facebook page memorized, I went into her Yoworld game and made her room look like heaven and dressed her up like an Angel, her avatar is gone. My heart broke again because doing that, I cried the whole time as I'm sure so many others did when they used these boards to remember their loved ones. As beautifully shown here. Shame on Big Viking! " I posted this on YoWorld FB page.

Captain T
YoRegular

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Registered: Jul 31, 2009
Posts: 372

Fri Jun 07, 2024 7:08 pm
The changes you made from the past were mostly all acceptable to me. However, this time the disabled of paint boards is the worst of the worst decision you've ever made to the game. You're just simply KILLING THE GAME. Yoworld relies on paint boards heavily. To me, this time your team did it absolutely reckless. You had not consulted the community, or even just noticed the community some days before you made the decision. Everything came very sudden, and we were all in shock. I don't know how critical would it be to the game, but I aware since yesterday, a number of players started leaving the game, and there have been much less events hosted!

Face the outcome for your reckless decision. BVG you're still STRONGLY CONDEMNED for this irresponsible act.



Viking Andrew wrote:I’d like to take a moment to clarify a few things on behalf of the team:

Whenever we look at taking action in game, our first focus is to make a change that impacts as small of a player group as possible. It doesn’t matter if it’s a bug, or an art issue, or a problem with a larger feature like the Buddy List - we know any change that’s made to YoWorld on a large scale has a chance to truly, genuinely harm your experience. I hope, at the very least, this can convey that the seriousness of this issue meant we could not stand by idly after we discovered the risk to our community at large.

We cannot fully discuss the details behind the trouble with our Paint Boards, but we can say that the main issue involved the use of uploaded images, violating ToS, and as such, we are required to remove this feature. In disabling them there have been a lot of valid points brought up within the community that should be addressed. Mostly around the way we’ve gone about our current, temporary solution.

    Why disable all Paint Boards? The issue we needed to address in Paint Boards required us to disable the feature as the only means of protecting the community. This is due to the way the Paint Boards item works. As an older item, with older code, the solutions we have access to are much more limited.

    Can’t we just fix it? Any change we would make to this feature would require a total overhaul of the Paint Board item.

    Why didn’t you let me save my work? This is, currently, not how Paint Boards work. While the images are saved locally, any change or update to the Paint Board feature means that any work on the item as it currently exists is lost.

    Will I get my images back? We understand how important this feature is to our players and we are actively exploring ways to address this concern.

Our team understands that these items don’t just represent creative fun - they’re an investment you’ve made. We aren’t ready to discuss compensation with the community yet, but we’re absolutely going to find a way to make this right.

The very nature of the item means that the second something was to go wrong, or any fix needed to be made, your work was at risk. Naturally, this wasn’t a problem when the item was working as intended. When things are fine, there’s nothing to worry about.

With this particular discovery of a ToS violating complication in Paint Boards action needed to be swiftly taken, which meant that the underlying issue within Paint Boards arrived much sooner than we expected.

Our team is extremely aware of the way Paint Boards are used. We know these items are integral to many social events, and have become a key component in your decorating. The art that you’re showing off here is a true testament to that. We also know that these items are key parts of events, trading, conversations between players, and are a staple to allowing you to decorate in creative ways our team can only begin to catch up on. So where does that leave us?

Our team is working on a solution for this particular issue. This situation involving Paint Boards is complicated, but we have a lot of faith in our team’s ability to resolve this issue.

We know you probably have questions, and we’ll be opening up a thread here for you to focus them all in one place.

BP Speed
YoApprentice

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Registered: Dec 21, 2008
Posts: 166

Fri Jun 07, 2024 7:39 pm
Willow Amelia (2670049) wrote:KEEP CANCELLING THOSE VIP MEMBERSHIPS. I am sure they had a lot of those in the first 24 hours. I was one of them. Don't buy YC. Don't buy anything that benefits BVG. They dont't care about us. Girls, we have enough hairs. Boycott all purchases to show them the biggest mistake they have made. ONLY WAY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN is STAND STRONG. STAND UNITED. BOYCOTT.


:thumbsup: Amen sister! What they did is just solidify many many people leaving who were waiting to see if this game would ever get better. Paintboards and whiteboards were the main way to be creative in this game without buying the overpriced mostly junk in the stores. I'm seriously considering being done as well...after playing since 2009! Not many games out there have such a loyal following, and none have backstabbed their players as much as this. The same players who pay with their own hard earned money only to see prices rise and rise again. I'm eager to see this 'compensation' for taking away so many memories. This is stealing, literal stealing. I'll be surprised if there isn't lawsuits brought against BVG. Keep up the great work Vikings, you're running this game into the ground!!! :thumbsup: :grr
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