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SamiSpiffy23
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Fri Jun 07, 2024 7:40 pm
Wow. This is absolutely heart-breaking to read. While I didn't use many of these paint boards, I had been gifted some amazing ones from friends. :wailing: I honestly wish you had warned people before you wiped them all off. They've taken pictures/captions etc.. just to have them as a memory. Completely wiping them off was a little senseless & inconsiderate. So sorry to say that. :wailing:

Sw33tCandy NF2G
YoAficionado

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Posts: 3036

Fri Jun 07, 2024 7:44 pm
Viking Andrew wrote:
Eliza Whitehorn (178680937) wrote:I truly hope you’re happy. You’ve taken art that people can’t even get back most likely. You only care about how much money your game pulls in. I cancelled my VIP, I’m not buying yo cash again and neither are some people I’ve seen. Good luck ruining the rest of the game. Saying this was your only solution, sure it was.


Believe me, we're not happy.

This is not something that we wanted to do, it is something that we had to do. Again, I can't get into specifics, but wiping boards is something that we were required to do.

I genuinely wish there was an alternative route we could have taken.



In the blue says it all and sad but I'm sure for legality reason this was done. And if that is the case, they can't talk about it. So, for that we have to respect it, sad but this is how it goes.

So sorry for all who have lost memories, fine art and great rooms my deepest feeling go out to you all. :heartbroken:

Skeet
YoLover

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Registered: Apr 14, 2009
Posts: 2851

Fri Jun 07, 2024 7:49 pm
MiMiX (104741846) wrote:Thousands of hours and years of hard work gone because of a few bad apples, Seriously!!!!????? Bad decision BVG :grr You just signed your own death sentence, what the hell were you thinking? You literally ruined my entire game experience. Not only is all my art gone for art events but all my tour events are gone too! Super Mario tour gone! South Park tour Gone! Smurfs tour gone,Where's Waldo GONE!!!! Nearly every single tour had white board art incorporated into it and now EVERYTHING IS GONE!!!! You literally killed every single reason I played the game. No art, no tours, no events, NO reason to play anymore, I'M OUT!!!!!!! You suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I am so so sorry. My heart goes out to you. I loved your tours! You are very talented. :heart:

Nita
YoFan

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Registered: Aug 17, 2009
Posts: 1835

Fri Jun 07, 2024 8:21 pm
I guess I'd better prepare to find something else to fill my time. After playing here from the very beginning. If you had asked me at some point to pay a monthly fee, I would have done anything to keep this game. But, I paid for VIP and other than the monthly awards, get little from it. I am not a gambler so now I have to go on the AH to try to afford all the best things. The selfies don't work and you don't act like it matters to fix it. We had other benefits at Zynga, like being able to choose a house and look to find our things in every room. That was very nice. I used to read books, I guess I will go back to that and looking at more youtube and start doing paint by numbers, all because I think this will drive so many players away that gamblers won't save it. I love this game the most, I would probably pay to play it so it could go on but I doubt many others feel the same after today.

Nami
YoRegular

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Fri Jun 07, 2024 8:24 pm
I asked Chat GPT about this situation and I now believe BVG got no choice but to take the boards down ASAP or they will risk getting sued or have the game shut down. Here is the response:

The sudden removal of a long-standing feature like a paint board item in a game, especially one that has allowed players to draw and create art for over 15 years, can be quite upsetting for the community. While the company can't go into specifics, several plausible reasons could explain this drastic action:

Legal Issues:

Copyright Infringement: Players might have been drawing copyrighted characters or other protected content without permission, leading to potential legal actions from copyright holders.

Defamation or Hate Speech: If players were using the whiteboard to create offensive, defamatory, or hateful content, the company might have faced legal pressure to remove the feature to avoid liability.

Technical or Security Concerns:

Exploits or Hacks: The whiteboard feature might have had vulnerabilities that were being exploited, posing a risk to the game's security and integrity.

Regulatory Compliance:

Data Protection Laws: Changes in data protection laws might have made it difficult for the company to store and manage the content created on the paint board without violating privacy regulations.

Content Regulations: New regulations on digital content and online interactions might have imposed restrictions that led to the feature's removal.

These are speculative reasons, and without specific details from the company, it's difficult to pinpoint the exact cause. However, these scenarios cover a broad range of possible issues that could lead to the removal of such a beloved feature.

Rod
#1 YoFiend

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Fri Jun 07, 2024 8:30 pm
I'm going to try this again, but do it more delicately. I have experience with the threat BVG is mitigating. It is not something they can just "hold off on doing". The international authorities do not care about our precious Yo. They do not care about BVG's business. They are singular in focus and they are ruthless. They will get court orders to seize the physical servers if they have to - effectively shutting down Yo forever in a faster blink than we saw yesterday.

Let me be clear - I HATE WHAT HAPPENED TO US ALL. But understand when I say that the entire existence of Yo was threatened, I'm not blowing smoke up your collective azzes. I've seen it happen in 2 other instances. One of those shut down an entire cell phone system for weeks.

So vent all you want. It won't matter. They can't do anything about it because they literally can't do anything about it. I am proud of them for making the right call and protecting Yo's players. It doesn't feel good, but it was necessary.

:'( :rose:

BsZ Tee
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Fri Jun 07, 2024 8:42 pm
Technical or Security Concerns:

Exploits or Hacks: The whiteboard feature might have had vulnerabilities that were being exploited, posing a risk to the game's security and integrity.


This has been my suspicion with the updated info Adam posted. They went on a huge banning spree and I have a feeling someone found a back door way into BVG or was trying and they figured out it was through the Paint Boards. For them to have no choice but to zap them fast this is more then pictures being posted on them. That has gone on since waaaay back with the frames. This was more than someone posting nasty pictures on them.

It's this sentence that makes me thin that

With this particular discovery of a ToS violating complication in Paint Boards action needed to be swiftly taken, which meant that the underlying issue within Paint Boards arrived much sooner than we expected.

x Milky x
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Posts: 6508

Fri Jun 07, 2024 8:49 pm
Chill (126579776) wrote:
x Milky x (6094472) wrote:
x Milky x (6094472) wrote:YEARS! of memories completely wiped clean and down the drain. Birthday parties! events of us celebrating our friends beating cancer! graduations from colleges! saved fits of items we may never have again because of the constant ban frenzies which remove access to our OWN items we have let others borrow now gone forever! Christmases! Weddings! Funerals! Best friend hangouts! The list goes on and on and on and ON! And you all would not even consider because of a small few, how bad it would affect your loyal and long-term member base? I am in absolute shock right now. We have known for quite a while that us YOs have gone on the back burner and we're just another number or penny to be squeezed out of us, but this is on a whole new level. I cannot even express to you the amount of memories I had in my rooms, that are just gone.. GONE! If you would have warned us, we could have at least taken screen shots.. this is just unreal.. I am done with this game. There is only so many ways you can make someone feel like just another nothing before the hands go up!


Hi everyone!

Since BVG stated they would reimburse us for the boards, I went ahead and put a receipt for the costs of what I have paid for the boards. I did the total boards cost through BVG at a rate of 150k to 1 YC.. Then I also put the amount of the labor costs we pay others to do the boards for us. For example, I have paid out 100s of millions just to have a few huge projects done for me. Usually on average the boards were only 50-250k per board though, so I went ahead and just did the average. Just like in a flood or fire in real, our insurance will not give us damages for losing all our memories, pictures, drives, etc.. so unfortunately I did not add a cost of what a huge loss that is.. the truth is, I do not think there is even a monetary amount that could justify the tragic loss of those, but since BVG knowingly decided to "burn down the house", hopefully we can start with the base real value of what it actually cost in their stores and the labor cost of the artists that I paid my hard earned YO money for. If the image is to small, that is 548,000,000. I hope I will receive that soon enough. Thank you!

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I'm so sad for you Milky, and for every one of your buds. You guys loved paint boards and used them prolificly. You were done dirty here. BVG has let us all down today. Horribly.


Thank you- that means a lot! You always speak so incredibly and have been such an asset to this community. I was only 2 months into my yearly VIP subscription, so I asked if it could be prorated and canceled for the 10 months left on it. If it can't be, that's fine! I told them I do not want the rewards or yocash. I am done 100% supporting this game financially. Maybe now I can take those vacations I have been wanting to go on. I am absolutely shocked this was done so carelessly and irresponsibly. You know darn well I have been a defender of BVG, sometimes to a fault, but this?! It really does show a lack of awareness they have of their member base, beyond out of touch. This is not people being dramatic, this is their very real lives where they have built friendships and much more for close to two decades The fact it is spit on like this just blows my mind. Anyway, I am done with my tangent but ty for replying. It's always so good to see you :heart:

Robyn VIP
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Fri Jun 07, 2024 8:49 pm
Thanks Nami and Rod for explaining, you really opened my eyes. Yes, I would rather save the game.

Skeet
YoLover

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Registered: Apr 14, 2009
Posts: 2851

Fri Jun 07, 2024 8:49 pm
BsZ Tee (2459101) wrote:
Technical or Security Concerns:

Exploits or Hacks: The whiteboard feature might have had vulnerabilities that were being exploited, posing a risk to the game's security and integrity.


This has been my suspicion with the updated info Adam posted. They went on a huge banning spree and I have a feeling someone found a back door way into BVG or was trying and they figured out it was through the Paint Boards. For them to have no choice but to zap them fast this is more then pictures being posted on them. That has gone on since waaaay back with the frames. This was more than someone posting nasty pictures on them.

It's this sentence that makes me thin that

With this particular discovery of a ToS violating complication in Paint Boards action needed to be swiftly taken, which meant that the underlying issue within Paint Boards arrived much sooner than we expected.


I wish BVG would explain this better and update this forum. Many still are not on discord.

FaerieElaisonBB BC
YoNewbie

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Registered: Sep 18, 2009
Posts: 3

Fri Jun 07, 2024 9:10 pm
Thank you for the update and clarification Andrew. I know this had to be a hard thing to do. It still hurts, so many. I personally just had a couple boards made by friends, but I got screenshots of them a while ago. So many though, are in shock and hurting right now.
If you had given this kind of explanation yesterday, maybe folks would have been more understanding.
I know making ALL images available again is not gonna happen, but I hope that you can eventually make it so that anyone who asks, can have access to at least a few of their images, the irreplaceable ones that were made by or for loved ones, and the handmade art that people spent so much time creating, if that is at all possible.
Thank you on behalf of my friends who are sad today.
And thank you for your hard work.

kelley
YoRookie

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Registered: Oct 02, 2009
Posts: 14

Fri Jun 07, 2024 9:20 pm
I think this is VERY UNFAIR to punish all for a few. I have spent 10 years drawing inworld art and invested hundreds of yocash in buying boards. This is only secondary to loosing HOURS . NO DAYS MONTHS creating. And because of a few, I am being punished. This game is getting less and less fun ..to say NOTHING of all the games i created that use white boards. Shame on you for not trying to think outside the box on this one.

Amy Pond
YoDedicated

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Posts: 6210

Fri Jun 07, 2024 9:52 pm
well that destroys my Best rooms! all my Doctor WHO rooms are destroyed!
seems to me allowing people to REPORT THOSE abusing it would have been a better idea but destroying our rooms is easier I suppose.
whatever, I am not sure why I even came back to the game tbh
PS dont thank me for being understand because I am not understanding :nerd:
right now I am ready to close yoworld again.. i did it before because everything was yc, but my who rooms lured me back.. now there is nothing left, what do i have to lose?

AsstChief AmmaYFD
YoFollower

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Posts: 1021

Fri Jun 07, 2024 9:56 pm
Viking Andrew wrote:I’d like to take a moment to clarify a few things on behalf of the team:

Whenever we look at taking action in game, our first focus is to make a change that impacts as small of a player group as possible. It doesn’t matter if it’s a bug, or an art issue, or a problem with a larger feature like the Buddy List - we know any change that’s made to YoWorld on a large scale has a chance to truly, genuinely harm your experience. I hope, at the very least, this can convey that the seriousness of this issue meant we could not stand by idly after we discovered the risk to our community at large.

We cannot fully discuss the details behind the trouble with our Paint Boards, but we can say that the main issue involved the use of uploaded images, violating ToS, and as such, we are required to remove this feature. In disabling them there have been a lot of valid points brought up within the community that should be addressed. Mostly around the way we’ve gone about our current, temporary solution.

    Why disable all Paint Boards? The issue we needed to address in Paint Boards required us to disable the feature as the only means of protecting the community. This is due to the way the Paint Boards item works. As an older item, with older code, the solutions we have access to are much more limited.

    Can’t we just fix it? Any change we would make to this feature would require a total overhaul of the Paint Board item.

    Why didn’t you let me save my work? This is, currently, not how Paint Boards work. While the images are saved locally, any change or update to the Paint Board feature means that any work on the item as it currently exists is lost.

    Will I get my images back? We understand how important this feature is to our players and we are actively exploring ways to address this concern.

Our team understands that these items don’t just represent creative fun - they’re an investment you’ve made. We aren’t ready to discuss compensation with the community yet, but we’re absolutely going to find a way to make this right.

The very nature of the item means that the second something was to go wrong, or any fix needed to be made, your work was at risk. Naturally, this wasn’t a problem when the item was working as intended. When things are fine, there’s nothing to worry about.

With this particular discovery of a ToS violating complication in Paint Boards action needed to be swiftly taken, which meant that the underlying issue within Paint Boards arrived much sooner than we expected.

Our team is extremely aware of the way Paint Boards are used. We know these items are integral to many social events, and have become a key component in your decorating. The art that you’re showing off here is a true testament to that. We also know that these items are key parts of events, trading, conversations between players, and are a staple to allowing you to decorate in creative ways our team can only begin to catch up on. So where does that leave us?

Our team is working on a solution for this particular issue. This situation involving Paint Boards is complicated, but we have a lot of faith in our team’s ability to resolve this issue.

We know you probably have questions, and we’ll be opening up a thread here for you to focus them all in one place.



OK I am going to try this again. So you are saying the process is the problem, not an individual or group of people putting inappropriate art on the boards. I am thinking that this being included in a game might also make the owners of the game liable. I know if I tried to copy something that was copywritten and post it in Facebook I would be liable as an individual. Am I making sense here?

ChloePumpkin
YoGroupie

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Fri Jun 07, 2024 10:27 pm
Robyn VIP (8132649) wrote:Thanks Nami and Rod for explaining, you really opened my eyes. Yes, I would rather save the game.


Same here. I've been wondering if it had something to do with a possible lawsuit. Just looking at some of the pictures posted here, you can see several "characters" that are copyrighted. This whole thing reminds me of the 50 Shades theme, which was suddenly removed with no explanation. I think many of us thought there had been the threat of a lawsuit. The difference is that we had a period to buy the stuff before it disappeared forever. I still have a storage house full of the stuff.

I think it's terribly sad that people have lost so much of their beautiful work. I feel especially sad for those that lost ones that had sentimental feelings attached to them. They can never be replaced. But the bottom line is that I want to see the game saved. And not to sound like Pollyanna, but I truly believe that the Vikings feel terrible about this but are doing what needs to be done.

Amy Pond
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Fri Jun 07, 2024 10:31 pm
Nope, you have ruined so many peoples rooms, did NO ONE in your decision making team even CONSIDER the impact? No reason you give will MEND the pain you have caused to those who have cherished memories of loved ones on those boards. No reason will justify your teams sledgehammer action. You know this, it was a cheap fix.

Robyn VIP
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Fri Jun 07, 2024 10:44 pm
ChloePumpkin (176209997) wrote:
Robyn VIP (8132649) wrote:Thanks Nami and Rod for explaining, you really opened my eyes. Yes, I would rather save the game.


Same here. I've been wondering if it had something to do with a possible lawsuit. Just looking at some of the pictures posted here, you can see several "characters" that are copyrighted. This whole thing reminds me of the 50 Shades theme, which was suddenly removed with no explanation. I think many of us thought there had been the threat of a lawsuit. The difference is that we had a period to buy the stuff before it disappeared forever. I still have a storage house full of the stuff.

I think it's terribly sad that people have lost so much of their beautiful work. I feel especially sad for those that lost ones that had sentimental feelings attached to them. They can never be replaced. But the bottom line is that I want to see the game saved. And not to sound like Pollyanna, but I truly believe that the Vikings feel terrible about this but are doing what needs to be done.


I whole heartedly agree with you ChloePumpkin, nice to see you!

Boo
YoSupporter

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Posts: 595

Fri Jun 07, 2024 10:50 pm
The only update I think I could really accept at this point is if we could get back our work we had in our rooms. I have started to play this game specifically for deco. I spent so many years making rooms that became so special to being part of this community, and sharing them with buddies and deco groups. This became a hobby I truly enjoyed and took pride in. The friends who helped me to execute the ideas I had, had made me these 3d boards that I treasured for years. Some of my buddies are gone now , and therefore cannot replicate these anymore. They spent hours many evening for weeks to make them. Spiderman, Wonderwoman, Voyageur, Jungle Book, Banff Canada..so many more

As years went by I would add more and more rooms ,as this was one deco option I loved we could use as diversity in our decorating options.

My rooms are sitting as graveyards now in the game, totally taken apart, with the work on those boards now all gone. The tons of items I bought to use with the boards made, are still sitting in the messed up rooms, those are still there, what shall I do with them, maybe turn the rooms into history museums called the Apocalypse.

I think how it would feel if a store sold painting tools to a painter who spent years to make a canvas they were proud of, then it was taken away because the seller said some other people misused the tools , sorry we are taking away your work.

I can only wonder how all this can even be compensated, not only all the tons of boards we purchased, the fees we paid buddies to make them for us, the items I bought from the stores to complete the rooms with the boards, the rooms I bought to place the boards ,items I purchased from events, items I searched for endlessly to add to the rooms with the boards . I have no use now for these items with no place they belong anymore.

I really am wondering how can this all be replaced.., I wish we could have back our boards, I find it hard to even want to restart if we had to restart, seeing that it all can be taken away that easily from us all. I have lost faith and motivation to continue any deco anymore, I invested too much , it is hurtful, I will only visit friends, and keep the game as that purpose only, if I do log in from now on.(chat room , my new hobby). End of VIP for me and no more buying for deco, sorry to all event sellers ,I was always happy to support buying from your events to create rooms , no need anymore.

nar
YoFollower

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Posts: 1159

Fri Jun 07, 2024 10:53 pm
Viking Andrew wrote:I’d like to take a moment to clarify a few things on behalf of the team:

Whenever we look at taking action in game, our first focus is to make a change that impacts as small of a player group as possible. It doesn’t matter if it’s a bug, or an art issue, or a problem with a larger feature like the Buddy List - we know any change that’s made to YoWorld on a large scale has a chance to truly, genuinely harm your experience. I hope, at the very least, this can convey that the seriousness of this issue meant we could not stand by idly after we discovered the risk to our community at large.

We cannot fully discuss the details behind the trouble with our Paint Boards, but we can say that the main issue involved the use of uploaded images, violating ToS, and as such, we are required to remove this feature. In disabling them there have been a lot of valid points brought up within the community that should be addressed. Mostly around the way we’ve gone about our current, temporary solution.

    Why disable all Paint Boards? The issue we needed to address in Paint Boards required us to disable the feature as the only means of protecting the community. This is due to the way the Paint Boards item works. As an older item, with older code, the solutions we have access to are much more limited.

    Can’t we just fix it? Any change we would make to this feature would require a total overhaul of the Paint Board item.

    Why didn’t you let me save my work? This is, currently, not how Paint Boards work. While the images are saved locally, any change or update to the Paint Board feature means that any work on the item as it currently exists is lost.

    Will I get my images back? We understand how important this feature is to our players and we are actively exploring ways to address this concern.

Our team understands that these items don’t just represent creative fun - they’re an investment you’ve made. We aren’t ready to discuss compensation with the community yet, but we’re absolutely going to find a way to make this right.

The very nature of the item means that the second something was to go wrong, or any fix needed to be made, your work was at risk. Naturally, this wasn’t a problem when the item was working as intended. When things are fine, there’s nothing to worry about.

With this particular discovery of a ToS violating complication in Paint Boards action needed to be swiftly taken, which meant that the underlying issue within Paint Boards arrived much sooner than we expected.

Our team is extremely aware of the way Paint Boards are used. We know these items are integral to many social events, and have become a key component in your decorating. The art that you’re showing off here is a true testament to that. We also know that these items are key parts of events, trading, conversations between players, and are a staple to allowing you to decorate in creative ways our team can only begin to catch up on. So where does that leave us?

Our team is working on a solution for this particular issue. This situation involving Paint Boards is complicated, but we have a lot of faith in our team’s ability to resolve this issue.

We know you probably have questions, and we’ll be opening up a thread here for you to focus them all in one place.


Thanks for the clarification, but you should have started with it instead of the ala-bala - you would have saved yourself a lot of headaches and well-deserved anger from the players.

I think it's high time you pay attention to your communication with the community. Your PR has been under all kinds of criticism for several years. Disrespect for players, lack of clarity, gambling efforts and poor furniture themes from the last 2 years lead to logical anger.

Please don't ruin this game with bad communication anymore! I am sure you will meet with a lot of unconditional support and understanding from all of us if you act more interested. I say this as an expert, with best feelings.

I wish you good luck and more adequacy. We all want to keep this community alive! :heart:

Amy Pond
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Fri Jun 07, 2024 10:59 pm
IF lawsuit WAS the reason, I fail to see how removing those who have passed photos on paint boards or those who manually draw on them could fit the ''lawsuit'' How is it that my many pictures of dr who character still exist on fb IF it was a lawsuit issue, surely FB would be under the same scrutiny ? How is flicker or photobucket somehow avoiding a ''lawsuit. No don't believe it.
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