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Straw
YoAficionado

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Fri Jun 07, 2024 11:11 pm
[quote="FaerieElaisonBB BC (122517086)"]Thank you for the update and clarification Andrew. I know this had to be a hard thing to do. It still hurts, so many. I personally just had a couple boards made by friends, but I got screenshots of them a while ago. So many though, are in shock and hurting right now.
If you had given this kind of explanation yesterday, maybe folks would have been more understanding.
I know making ALL images available again is not gonna happen, but I hope that you can eventually make it so that anyone who asks, can have access to at least a few of their images, the irreplaceable ones that were made by or for loved ones, and the handmade art that people spent so much time creating, if that is at all possible.
Thank you on behalf of my friends who are sad today.
And thank you for your hard work.[/quoteI

I agree with you on every thing.This made our heads spin. An announcement would have given us a chance to get screen shots of our favorite boards. Totally bummed out! This could have been handled so much better than it was.

Nita
YoFan

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Fri Jun 07, 2024 11:22 pm
quote: Whenever we look at taking action in game, our first focus is to make a change that impacts as small of a player group as possible.

Really? How is this the truth when everyone, everyone who had a paint board was affected??????? My hubby says there is a way to reset and go back and let people save their work before it is turned off again. He has worked in computers for over 40 years. How could what others have done affect the rest of us if we have done nothing wrong? That is also hard to believe. I don't want to be argumentative but I don't think this explanation explains anything or helps we players who are innocent.

Opposite Tables
YoSupporter

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Posts: 565

Fri Jun 07, 2024 11:29 pm
Chill (126579776) wrote:I'm going to try this again, but do it more delicately. I have experience with the threat BVG is mitigating. It is not something they can just "hold off on doing". The international authorities do not care about our precious Yo. They do not care about BVG's business. They are singular in focus and they are ruthless. They will get court orders to seize the physical servers if they have to - effectively shutting down Yo forever in a faster blink than we saw yesterday.

Let me be clear - I HATE WHAT HAPPENED TO US ALL. But understand when I say that the entire existence of Yo was threatened, I'm not blowing smoke up your collective azzes. I've seen it happen in 2 other instances. One of those shut down an entire cell phone system for weeks.

So vent all you want. It won't matter. They can't do anything about it because they literally can't do anything about it. I am proud of them for making the right call and protecting Yo's players. It doesn't feel good, but it was necessary.

:'( :rose:


Are you trying to say those with all the 'billions' are doing something? You may be right on the M :idea: NEY! I certainly do understand because these people(?) don't want anyone sharing anything. I do hope others understand what is happening in this world and that it has nothing to do with our game but only messaging. It is their need to control as they see fit. Please reeaad into this. They can do much more than take out a game. Think of things that have and are happening or happening again........... and it might be good to get off some social-multimedia too, I'm not certain who or what is trustworthy to be honest.
God Bless ALL of us.

Soylent Blue
YoSupporter

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Registered: Apr 15, 2010
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Fri Jun 07, 2024 11:38 pm
Could not go after the "players abusing these boards in ways that were never intended and are in direct violation of our TOS" ?? Remove THIER paint board images/text and warn them and ban if they repeat?? Too many of them? Your time that valuable so you take a quick and easy approach DISABLE ALL BOARDS and just kill a feature that was very important to MANY here in Yoworld. Many who did nothing at all to deserve this. WOW! Innocent art and pictures of Yoworld in game items that helped us buy and sell, a big interaction factor. Sorry, but this stinks. SMH. The truth is out there?? Bahahaha! Still stinks.

ChloePumpkin
YoGroupie

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Registered: Mar 27, 2011
Posts: 4372

Fri Jun 07, 2024 11:46 pm
Robyn VIP (8132649) wrote:
ChloePumpkin (176209997) wrote:
Robyn VIP (8132649) wrote:Thanks Nami and Rod for explaining, you really opened my eyes. Yes, I would rather save the game.


Same here. I've been wondering if it had something to do with a possible lawsuit. Just looking at some of the pictures posted here, you can see several "characters" that are copyrighted. This whole thing reminds me of the 50 Shades theme, which was suddenly removed with no explanation. I think many of us thought there had been the threat of a lawsuit. The difference is that we had a period to buy the stuff before it disappeared forever. I still have a storage house full of the stuff.

I think it's terribly sad that people have lost so much of their beautiful work. I feel especially sad for those that lost ones that had sentimental feelings attached to them. They can never be replaced. But the bottom line is that I want to see the game saved. And not to sound like Pollyanna, but I truly believe that the Vikings feel terrible about this but are doing what needs to be done.


I whole heartedly agree with you ChloePumpkin, nice to see you!


Nice to see you, too, Robyn! :hug:

Stormy Amphitrite
YoFan

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Posts: 1769

Fri Jun 07, 2024 11:52 pm
Gothicka (187898876) wrote:I can't imagine it is BVG's intention to alienate their player base. After having a long discussion with my husband and some back and forth about what's going on in the tech world with other games recently, this may not be an area they have a choice in if things are uploaded to their server. Obviously we use sites to host the images, but the images do get uploaded to YW. If the server isn't being moderated....well, this kind of thing happens. I don't want to speculate because they haven't given us any other details, but I can only imagine it is a serious issue to anger this many players.

I only wish BVG would have reacted differently - given us a heads up - hey, we're wiping the servers. You won't have access to the boards. Obviously it may not have simply been an option. I guess I've gone from angry to processing the change to being a devil's advocate. I'm so sorry to all who are affected. I'm also feeling the wrath..but being a little more understanding on my end.


i have no pbs, though i was thinking eventually learning them. i read so much $$ and time and creativity loss but the saddest is those who lost dear memories. if you are correct, i have a hard time believing a few portraits of toms, dicks, and harry's. i would only speculate it must be something of a high level of illegality or a personal lawsuit (doxxing was mentioned) which could also explain no warning abruptness. i don't know how they can begin to compensate esp. what is beyond $$ value. i understand any players fed up/angry/hurt enough to leave the game.

Boo
YoSupporter

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Posts: 595

Fri Jun 07, 2024 11:54 pm
Opposite Tables (108690404) wrote:
Chill (126579776) wrote:I'm going to try this again, but do it more delicately. I have experience with the threat BVG is mitigating. It is not something they can just "hold off on doing". The international authorities do not care about our precious Yo. They do not care about BVG's business. They are singular in focus and they are ruthless. They will get court orders to seize the physical servers if they have to - effectively shutting down Yo forever in a faster blink than we saw yesterday.

Let me be clear - I HATE WHAT HAPPENED TO US ALL. But understand when I say that the entire existence of Yo was threatened, I'm not blowing smoke up your collective azzes. I've seen it happen in 2 other instances. One of those shut down an entire cell phone system for weeks.

So vent all you want. It won't matter. They can't do anything about it because they literally can't do anything about it. I am proud of them for making the right call and protecting Yo's players. It doesn't feel good, but it was necessary.

:'( :rose:


Chill.... as long as BVG in not being transparent why this was done, your comments are only speculation and just your opinion. Because you claim you have experience, unless you work for BVG ,means nothing as every situation is different., . Many other people here with computer experience, etc.... are saying other less drastic measures could have been taken without risking the game... I seen players during Zynga times do all kinds of crazy things,,they never removed the boards ....Have a nice day

Are you trying to say those with all the 'billions' are doing something? You may be right on the M :idea: NEY! I certainly do understand because these people(?) don't want anyone sharing anything. I do hope others understand what is happening in this world and that it has nothing to do with our game but only messaging. It is their need to control as they see fit. Please reeaad into this. They can do much more than take out a game. Think of things that have and are happening or happening again........... and it might be good to get off some social-multimedia too, I'm not certain who or what is trustworthy to be honest.
God Bless ALL of us.

Stormy Amphitrite
YoFan

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Posts: 1769

Fri Jun 07, 2024 11:56 pm
Amy Pond (117302962) wrote:IF lawsuit WAS the reason, I fail to see how removing those who have passed photos on paint boards or those who manually draw on them could fit the ''lawsuit'' How is it that my many pictures of dr who character still exist on fb IF it was a lawsuit issue, surely FB would be under the same scrutiny ? How is flicker or photobucket somehow avoiding a ''lawsuit. No don't believe it.


the court order could be to remove all pbs. bvg would have to comply. whether they have code saved/had time to save for the removed pbs in case they can be returned--who knows? also the lawsuit might have nothing to do with copyright.

Stormy Amphitrite
YoFan

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Sat Jun 08, 2024 12:02 am
BsZ Tee (2459101) wrote:
Technical or Security Concerns:

Exploits or Hacks: The whiteboard feature might have had vulnerabilities that were being exploited, posing a risk to the game's security and integrity.


This has been my suspicion with the updated info Adam posted. They went on a huge banning spree and I have a feeling someone found a back door way into BVG or was trying and they figured out it was through the Paint Boards. For them to have no choice but to zap them fast this is more then pictures being posted on them. That has gone on since waaaay back with the frames. This was more than someone posting nasty pictures on them.

It's this sentence that makes me thin that

With this particular discovery of a ToS violating complication in Paint Boards action needed to be swiftly taken, which meant that the underlying issue within Paint Boards arrived much sooner than we expected.


well it could have been pics--i can think anything of a nonconsensual or unable to consent would also cause this.

Stormy Amphitrite
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Sat Jun 08, 2024 12:05 am
Skeet (13722418) wrote:
BsZ Tee (2459101) wrote:
Technical or Security Concerns:

Exploits or Hacks: The whiteboard feature might have had vulnerabilities that were being exploited, posing a risk to the game's security and integrity.


This has been my suspicion with the updated info Adam posted. They went on a huge banning spree and I have a feeling someone found a back door way into BVG or was trying and they figured out it was through the Paint Boards. For them to have no choice but to zap them fast this is more then pictures being posted on them. That has gone on since waaaay back with the frames. This was more than someone posting nasty pictures on them.

It's this sentence that makes me thin that

With this particular discovery of a ToS violating complication in Paint Boards action needed to be swiftly taken, which meant that the underlying issue within Paint Boards arrived much sooner than we expected.


I wish BVG would explain this better and update this forum. Many still are not on discord.


for legal reasons, they might never be allowed to.

BsZ Jericho
YoNewbie

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Sat Jun 08, 2024 12:14 am
I JUST SPENT OVER 100YC LAST WEEK!!!! on LARGE PAINTBOARDS?!?!?! I want my YC BACK!!!!???

BsZ Jericho
YoNewbie

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Sat Jun 08, 2024 12:14 am
imagine not just banning those people you guys have become a JOKE!

JustJo
YoManiac

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Sat Jun 08, 2024 12:16 am
With this particular discovery of a ToS violating complication in Paint Boards action needed to be swiftly taken, which meant that the underlying issue within Paint Boards arrived much sooner than we expected.

someome violated TOS-so in the TOS you post what will be done-something major happened as you needed to swiftly take action without any warning to your players-who do matter???[/color]

Our team is extremely aware of the way Paint Boards are used.
if this is the case then you were aware of what was happening,so why the swift action? remove ban player and remove their content not ours

Our team is working on a solution for this particular issue. This situation involving Paint Boards is complicated, but we have a lot of faith in our team’s ability to resolve this issue.


as always "your team is working on a solution-is this the same way they "work on solutions for ongoing issues in game??

We all seemed to be punished for actions you knew were taking place as you state in a post-take action against the players you already knew were in violations not everyone on yoworld.

wasn't a tough decision and to take action so swiftly means you had to hurry up and save your own ass is what I'm thinking
prove me wrong,tell me I'm off base...go ahead do it BVG.

BsZ Jericho
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Sat Jun 08, 2024 12:20 am
Mr 0utrag3ous (103378167) wrote:Image
pitty excuses :yawn:


BULL!!

BsZ Jericho
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Sat Jun 08, 2024 12:29 am
Viking Andrew wrote:
Mir (102794171) wrote:No disrespect meant to you at all Viking Andrew, or a few other Vikings I've had the pleasure of conversing with.
This is the end for me.
Rooms I made that included paintboards were for one of two reasons.

1. It was a memorial room I made for a friend that used to play this game who died years ago. That room and the ability to still be able to visit her and leave her a message even though I know she'll never read them, meant a lot to me.

2. It was a room from a movie that captured me and the ability to recreate it on another platform was really inspirational for me. I made that room in here then painted it on canvas for my niece who loves the movie.

I'm done.
Regardless of what BVG reasons are. Once again, you ignored what the outcome might cause for the most important people who keep your game going.


Reading stories like this breaks my heart.

I am so terribly sorry. I wish we had some way to avoid putting YoFans through this, and I hope that, in time, we can earn back your support.


You literally could have avoided it by giving us a heads up a day before to screenshot our boards. BS BS BS is all yall spew

BsZ Jericho
YoNewbie

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Sat Jun 08, 2024 12:30 am
you cant tell us specifics but we pay your bills ok

Stormy Amphitrite
YoFan

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Registered: Mar 13, 2016
Posts: 1769

Sat Jun 08, 2024 12:36 am
Demona (6814674) wrote:
tommy (146736020) wrote:Maybe to many yo's used paintboards to push back against the woke, dei, lgbtqxyz ++ culture that yo workers have been promoting. I don't have problem with that culture, I just haven't bought the offerings. BUT HAVE BOUGHT A LOT OF PAINT BOARDS,modular rooms, and avenues, to make travels easier in my over 2000 homes, aves and modular rooms ( road signs, billboards, connection homes, and homes created by me). This is an extream reaction if I got this right. I'll give is a bit of time to see how this plays out, been on yo since '09... but his might be the end of the road.


Ya know tommy, there was no reason to bring up you're obvious distain for a whole section of human beings other than to tell us you're a bigot. It's not relevant to the issue at hand - BVG's decision to disable, erase, and remove Paint Boards.
her
Not every thing in this world is about you or even for you, Snowflake. :bye:

:drink: :drink: :drink: :drink: :drink:
blocked him for my part. lol after obvious denigrating a whole lot of other human beings and those that love them: "I don't have problem with that culture" o_o

Nita
YoFan

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Posts: 1835

Sat Jun 08, 2024 12:44 am
Stormy Amphitrite (186654727) wrote:
BsZ Tee (2459101) wrote:
Technical or Security Concerns:

Exploits or Hacks: The whiteboard feature might have had vulnerabilities that were being exploited, posing a risk to the game's security and integrity.


This has been my suspicion with the updated info Adam posted. They went on a huge banning spree and I have a feeling someone found a back door way into BVG or was trying and they figured out it was through the Paint Boards. For them to have no choice but to zap them fast this is more then pictures being posted on them. That has gone on since waaaay back with the frames. This was more than someone posting nasty pictures on them.

It's this sentence that makes me thin that

With this particular discovery of a ToS violating complication in Paint Boards action needed to be swiftly taken, which meant that the underlying issue within Paint Boards arrived much sooner than we expected.


well it could have been pics--i can think anything of a nonconsensual or unable to consent would also cause this.


I will say this, if this is anywhere near the truth that our boards could be hacked for political or otherwise reasons, such as illegal stuff like child trafficking (just an example) or some sort of court order lawsuit, another country spying on us, etc., then yes, they had to do it quick and I will say thank you and also I will say most important overall I think to all of us is having and saving the game. I hope I am right that we can.

TACCY
YoNovice

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Sat Jun 08, 2024 12:49 am
bene ora ve ne potete andare affanculo voi e il vostro gioco di merda

Nita
YoFan

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Sat Jun 08, 2024 12:56 am
And, Andrew, I apologize for being upset. Because I LOVE this game and you have NO idea how much! I got upset and wasn't thinking something really, really serious could be going on here, beyond what we assume.
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