tink (185739646) wrote:we need to get a daily payout 125k range for players. with our coins runs and factory. there always will be players with a high coinage in there account. nothing they can do about it , if they have the coins that are legit. you can't expect to get everything. if they want more coinage they need to buy yocash

Anthony (102235402) wrote:

Tiger Lily (128332896) wrote:They purge my coins and I'mma go off!!! lo

But seriously... even if they purge, I don't know about others... but I have more than enough inventory to put myself right back where I'm at... and then some! They purge...players will just charge double with what they have left to sell. A 20mil costume, will now cost ya 40mil+++.
Purging will do nothing more than cause chaos... and most likely chase off us 08 & 09 players. And that would do what for the economy?

The polls that have been run here a couple of times now... vast majority of players are from 09. We are diehards! But you mess with our coinage? Pfffffffffffffffffttttttttttttttttttt...... Not a good idea!

Not purge it away by force! Lol

Purge it over time, sell YoCoin items in store higher, causing more and more coins to drop from the game, thus purging it slowly.

Samberg (185737325) wrote:

Robot (185180932) wrote:People to stop complaining, mostly. Just because someone doesn't like the price of an item or the hype value of an older theme, is in my opinion no reason to come here crying. I am usually too poor for most things, and yet I don't beg for a re-release just because I want my hands on something from a closed off theme. I work for it by playing the game in it's current state. People need to work at it and evolve a little bit i think, before the complain-campaign throws another parade. But hey, that's just my cynical view. There is also worthy glitches, and real game issues, TO complain about, and that I often understand those just fine. I think there's a difference between sucking it up and seeing the cup half full, and trying to label things as an issue.

The problem is...in the current state there are many players who don't have to work for it. They have a plethora of coins just sitting around with nothing better to do with them so they can just buy a 30m costume on a whim, sell it to their friend for 31m who turns around and sells it to another friend for 32m.

What you have here is an artificial inflation of the value of an item just based on the fact there are people who have more coins than they'll ever spend.

Meanwhile, people have so many coins that trying to find an item in their invo to sell for only 50k is utterly and completely pointless because 50k in this game is completely pointless now.

This is why the games economy is broken.

It has nothing to do with allowing easy access to everything for everyone. It has to do with stabilizing and fixing an economy so that there will still be a game down the line.

In the current state people who have ridiculous amounts of coins have no reason to buy yocash as they can find a dealer and pay whatever rate they want. New players have no incentive to stick around when they see they start with 5k and there are items that are 5m, let alone items that are 30m.

In order to sustain long term viability things need to be fixed to a. get that coin heavy player to have to buy yocash in the future and b. give incentive for the new player to stick around long enough to actually buy yocash.

Rain (110294179) wrote:Some more stuff I think is relevant:

1. Gary said yesterday that the number of active users has substantially increased since BVG took over the game, which to me does not sound like the YoEconomy is all that daunting after all. Whether they are actual new players or old players returning from a long hiatus, they would be facing coin shortages too.

2. I've met a few actual noobs and they don't seem to worried about it either. In fact, some are already thriving. And it probably won't surprise you to learn the ones that are thriving most are the former Mini Planetarians who have joined us here. Why are they thriving...because they had the advantage coming in of knowing how the whole trading market works and how to maximize profits. But that's something ANY player can learn with time.

To recap: Not broken.

Anthony (102235402) wrote:I see how some would think its a good economy. Its active, of course. But I believe that a good economy benefits all, and this economy only benefits those that are rich, and those that buy and sell. So I think its an active economy, just not a very good one. One of the only good ways of earning coins right now, is by buying, and selling for a higher price, which is not something everyone likes to do.

Not everyone is rich, and not everyone buys and sells. I know I rarely buy and sell to and from other players.

And the same may not go for every new player that enters the game.

This just goes to show how the very economy itself has had an effect on the game. Most of the game is now about buying, selling, and investing, in order for players to prosper. Its not so much about socializing, making friends, and having fun anymore. A great example of this would be the events list, the parties and music sections is only crowded with WTBs and Selling this or that for this and at such price. There aren't any real parties anymore in that section, and its only because the trading events have been pushing them out.

Samberg (185737325) wrote:

tink (185739646) wrote:we need to get a daily payout 125k range for players. with our coins runs and factory. there always will be players with a high coinage in there account. nothing they can do about it , if they have the coins that are legit. you can't expect to get everything. if they want more coinage they need to buy yocash

This is absurd.

Do you know what a 33m Yoro Costume turns into with that kind of pumping of coins into game?

A 330m Yoro Costume that will only continue to rise higher and higher in price.

Rain (110294179) wrote:

Anthony (102235402) wrote:I see how some would think its a good economy. Its active, of course. But I believe that a good economy benefits all, and this economy only benefits those that are rich, and those that buy and sell. So I think its an active economy, just not a very good one. One of the only good ways of earning coins right now, is by buying, and selling for a higher price, which is not something everyone likes to do.

Not everyone is rich, and not everyone buys and sells. I know I rarely buy and sell to and from other players.

And the same may not go for every new player that enters the game.

This just goes to show how the very economy itself has had an effect on the game. Most of the game is now about buying, selling, and investing, in order for players to prosper. Its not so much about socializing, making friends, and having fun anymore. A great example of this would be the events list, the parties and music sections is only crowded with WTBs and Selling this or that for this and at such price. There aren't any real parties anymore in that section, and its only because the trading events have been pushing them out.

I don't necessarily agree with you Anthony.

I know you don't consider yourself rich, but you have awesome stuff, and awesome clothes. Look at you, you're fabulous. The fact that your hat is worth 250K instead of 24m is beside the point and irrelevant. EVERYONE can have fun, decorate and look amazing, whether they spend a few K or a few million.

You don't need everything to be happy or fabulous.

Anthony (102235402) wrote:You are right, but dressing up is not something I consider fun. I do it, but its all I can do now adays in the game, most of my friends are now spending more time chasing after that new item they want, or looking for new clients. I think decorating is fun, but I am not able to do that now, I want to decorate with new furniture!

I just don't see how some can view as buying or selling as fun, unless you are planning to buy a dream item or something.

Most fun I have, are those forum parties, which I always look forward to.

tink (185739646) wrote:

Samberg (185737325) wrote:

tink (185739646) wrote:we need to get a daily payout 125k range for players. with our coins runs and factory. there always will be players with a high coinage in there account. nothing they can do about it , if they have the coins that are legit. you can't expect to get everything. if they want more coinage they need to buy yocash

This is absurd.

Do you know what a 33m Yoro Costume turns into with that kind of pumping of coins into game?

A 330m Yoro Costume that will only continue to rise higher and higher in price.

there is no coin flow in the games. its up to the player if they want to pay that price. i know last couple times i put the new yocash stuff in the auction house with a 10k reserve. payout is not where it should be 20-1 is cutting it close. what that is going to do is stop yosellers

Br3adman (11694762) wrote:More demand = more players and higher cost. Less demand = less players and lower prices. If the game grows demand will increase and if the game shrinks and losses players the items will go down in value. Also BVG could eliminate freeloaders what don't buy yocash and make it a pay per play game and save tens of thousands of dollars in operating cost and the supply will reduce.