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TheGeneral(VaultKeeper)
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Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:38 pm
TinaYoTurner (138753266) wrote:I don't think they should "shut down" General. That is not what I'm saying, but what I don't believe is that people should use it like it is some god-inspired document that leaves people believing, "This is what the price is for this item", or "You shouldn't pay more then this amount!" That is where I don't think it should even be called "Price Gude" and then say they are not trying to tell people what price things should be. It should just be a YoWorld Goods and Items catelog. I hate when I hear that people quote the "PRICEGUIDE" amount to someone at a sale and then expect to get the item for that costs or lower. For instance I think that if you have freebies that cannot be gotten for free anymore, you can sell for what you want. Should the priceguide says it was a "freebie" then players think that you should just give it to them because at one time it had been free. I'm like really, because it may have been free to me, but I worked to get it. (as in coinrun, or worked jobs, or sent gifts to friends) so it's not really a "freebie". Plus, onece those items are no longer "freebies", anyone can sell THEIR item for what they want. I don't know why some people just can't seem to grasp that concept. It doesn't matter what it had cost the original owner, they can resell for what they want. People need to learn to look for a good deal or just do without, but stop all the stupid whinning becaue you can't get someone to sell you the item you want for practically nothing! OK, climbing down off soapbox. Carry on. :)


Them shutting down is just my opinion and never implied you were saying that. Its a player made guide, its an outdated guide beyond belief. The only things that change frequently is 08 (mainly costumes), 09 Vday items, and stuff like hugging bear, fun interactives etc.

85% of that guide is low balled. They won't update nothing and if they can't keep up because there are so many things, well then it's a crappy guide which really isn't a guide anymore. People sell items at their price and are really getting screwed over due to this guide and yet people are saying there's not enough ways to make coins........."stop following guides" and you'll see the light.
Watch the market and you'll see what things go for. Events should run the prices (the people of YoW), not just a "certain group" of players saying this is worth this.
Not how it works.

mariab
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Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:27 pm
That prices are out of control is something happening for a long time. I do not understand such an obsession to price things for a ridiculous amount of money. It is impossible to buy anything in the Auction House without getting ripped off by someone who thinks is better that you because they have a lot of items that people might need. But perhaps the funny part is that in some events annoucing sales, prices are even more overpriced than in the AH,.... in a few words, Im not buying anything from anyone, unless is a good deal. Yoworld is a game people, do not forget this simple statement.

TheGeneral(VaultKeeper)
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Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:37 pm
Mariab (112158733) wrote:That prices are out of control is something happening for a long time. I do not understand such an obsession to price things for a ridiculous amount of money. It is impossible to buy anything in the Auction House without getting ripped off by someone who thinks is better that you because they have a lot of items that people might need. But perhaps the funny part is that in some events annoucing sales, prices are even more overpriced than in the AH,.... in a few words, Im not buying anything from anyone, unless is a good deal. Yoworld is a game people, do not forget this simple statement.


To some people it's a game but when people spend real money on the game it actually changes the game slightly.
We all know people who don't spend a dime want everything cheap. It's still a buy low and sell high type of game and HAS been since beginning of 09. I don't buy a stock pile of themes with real cash, hold them for 6 months or 1+ years to turn around and sell for stupid cheap. I don't care what a low balling guide says it worth either because they're the biggest jackers and low ballers the game has seen.
With a lot of accounts banned, myspaces accounts lost, players who have left the game makes some of this stuff harder to find (not impossible).

ARealBestie JFC
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Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:00 pm
Mariab (112158733) wrote:That prices are out of control is something happening for a long time. I do not understand such an obsession to price things for a ridiculous amount of money. It is impossible to buy anything in the Auction House without getting ripped off by someone who thinks is better that you because they have a lot of items that people might need. But perhaps the funny part is that in some events annoucing sales, prices are even more overpriced than in the AH,.... in a few words, Im not buying anything from anyone, unless is a good deal. Yoworld is a game people, do not forget this simple statement.



I don't understand why people like you say "I'm not buying anything from anyone unless is a good deal." So basically not unless someone sells their item LOW enough for your taste? It's not a rip off if a person who purchased an item wishes to sell it for whatever they want to sell it for. How is that a rip off? Because they don't sell to you dirt cheap or give it to you free? You say, "Yoworld is a game people, do not forget this simple statement." well here's a simple statement for you to remember, people are paying real money for items and you are paying with virtual coins (not real money). So if it is just "a game", pay to play to have the same items that people who pay have. Talking about ripoffs = expecting someone to give or sell with cheap unreal coins, items that cost real cash, and then calling THEM greedy!

mariab
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Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:57 pm
If you want to spend your real money on here, that is up to you. I know that there are websites with info regarding prices and people who host sales and follow reasonable prices and they are cool with it. I dont have any problem with players who buy stuff to resell it and play to be " rich" or whatever, I buy stuff that I see it might fit in my decorations, since that is the essence of the game. Now it is impossible to buy anything at all and thats my point, rather buy stuff from the store once they bring new items, than please people who want to make business with a virtual game.. Speechless with some comments on here, looks like some players dont have anything better to do... Prices are high and that is a fact, no matter how offended you guys may feel. If you fight over these issues I dont want to see how you deal with real life problems.

Lempika
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Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:40 pm
TinaYoTurner (138753266) wrote:
Munekun (126426638) wrote:I recently bought a miami cool pool design on the auction house for 600k, i made sure i had seen them selling before i decided to bid on it and win it last minute. I tried selling in an event sale but everyone only stuck to the what i think to be un-updated price guide price of 320k. What sucks about it is if i sold it for that i would obviously lose money but i think i can make around 900k for it on the auction [ the average is supposedly 1.5mil which seems too high obviously but whatever if it sells it sells ] Anyway my point is what can you trust..? I have yet to ever see someone actually stick to price guides so it makes it almost impossible to know how to price something lately as the only concrete price i can think to find is the auction average price but that doesn't exactly seem trustworthy either. Sorry for the long post i am just confused as to pricing in the game lately, it seems as if it is just always "your item, your price" but anytime i price an item i get crap for it from people for straying from the priceguide, lol.



Um, so what's your point? If you think you can make more by selling it in the AU, then do it. No one is forcing you to sell at the "priceguide" price. If people don't want to buy at your price, that is their choice too, just like YOU have a choice to sell at what price you want. I personally don't go by some "guides" figures. I can determine for myself what I'm willing to pay for an item or sell an item.

I'm guessing you didn't read the whole post because it literally says "Anyway my point is what can you trust..?" referring to if there is a guide you can trust lately. And i got my answer. I was never intending to ask for peoples opinion on the purchase of the item. Simply if nowadays there is a trustworthy guide for prices.

PingPong
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Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:21 pm
<<< lowballer & proud ;)

Laura Rose
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Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:34 pm
If you ask for it and someone pays it I do not see the problem. To many times I have sold an item at a fair price and watched that person turn around, and make the profit in Trade. I have also seen some people bullied to sell for cheap, and the other person then call them a sucker, noobie or looser and run and sell for a profit. Your item, your price.

Lempika
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Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:47 pm
Laura Rose (138237058) wrote:If you ask for it and someone pays it I do not see the problem. To many times I have sold an item at a fair price and watched that person turn around, and make the profit in Trade. I have also seen some people bullied to sell for cheap, and the other person then call them a sucker, noobie or looser and run and sell for a profit. Your item, your price.

I now agree after seeing the replies to this thread that it is best to just name your own price regardless of what others think. I did once have someone tell me a white tiger pet was only worth 40k and that i was a complete "noob" for trying to sell it for any more,and no one would ever buy it, lmao.

TheGeneral(VaultKeeper)
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Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:54 pm
Mariab (112158733) wrote:If you want to spend your real money on here, that is up to you. I know that there are websites with info regarding prices and people who host sales and follow reasonable prices and they are cool with it. I dont have any problem with players who buy stuff to resell it and play to be " rich" or whatever, I buy stuff that I see it might fit in my decorations, since that is the essence of the game. Now it is impossible to buy anything at all and thats my point, rather buy stuff from the store once they bring new items, than please people who want to make business with a virtual game.. Speechless with some comments on here, looks like some players dont have anything better to do... Prices are high and that is a fact, no matter how offended you guys may feel. If you fight over these issues I dont want to see how you deal with real life problems.


I use them coins I make to fund my deco. I spent a lot of money and I'm not talking about $50 or $100 I'm way more than that.
To follow a guide made by players...lol...what a freaking joke, no ty. The biggest lowballers and price jackers ARE the guides. Get this in your head. They can corner the market at any given time. Oh wow lets buy these items and after we buy 50 of them each player lets raise the price and just watch the coins come in...why(?) because people fall for the guide scam.

If it was an "official guide" Id be more into it. You want good stuff, pay for it. If you can't afford it because you rely on factory run, hot dogs, SDB well that's where you're doing it wrong. I only rely on selling my yocash at MY rate or items I have sat on for 2 years. I have yet do any other way to get my coins besides earning my chit.

TheGeneral(VaultKeeper)
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Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:55 pm
Crabstick (181639560) wrote:<<< lowballer & proud ;)


That's the name of the game, buy low and sell high....only if it's possible. As certain items can be harder to make profit off of it.

Trish
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 12:52 am
I'm a hoarder. I got most of what I wanted when it came out. I just don't sell my stuff and I don't buy either. And when I do buy it's just a small piece of furniture that I'm missing. I've got too much hair and wardrobe anyway.

Rain
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:01 am
Munekun (126426638) wrote:I wonder if they plan on fixing it somehow. I haven't been playing the game long enough to know much about how the prices used to be though, unfortunately.


The Yo Economy is not something that should be or needs to be "fixed." It is what it is and it's an evolving, ongoing thing. Prices go up, prices go down. That's how it goes.

No economy, virtual or real, benefits from outside and artificial manipulation. When that is attempted, everything tanks and EVERYONE suffers, whether you realize it immediately or not. There are so many negative repercussions that effect everyone from the poorest player to BVG themselves. In short, trading grinds to a halt, nobody sells the items you want, and nobody buys YoCash because the exchange rate and buyer confidence have gone down so much.

Nobody needs to own every item. I don't. Let the Yo Economy be what it is and do what it does.

TheGeneral(VaultKeeper)
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:04 am
^ I bet it is manipulated..... HH mini tree and mini tent costume just all the sudden becomes a smashing hit after how long? Pfftt...they were pickled items and guides will jack it....

Slash
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:09 am
TheGeneral(VaultKeeper) (14397783) wrote:^ I bet it is manipulated..... HH mini tree and mini tent costume just all the sudden becomes a smashing hit after how long? Pfftt...they were pickled items and guides will jack it....

I'm not sure of guides but there are groups of players in game who like to jack prices which I would consider manipulating :roll:

Rain
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:11 am
TheGeneral(VaultKeeper) (14397783) wrote:^ I bet it is manipulated..... HH mini tree and mini tent costume just all the sudden becomes a smashing hit after how long? Pfftt...they were pickled items and guides will jack it....


So it's all a big conspiracy? What's in it for the price guides? Secret agents hoarding items?

I suppose that's possible, but I think unlikely. The upward trends on prices that I notice always seem to be precipitated by some other thing. Xmas stuff goes up just before Xmas, Vday stuff goes up just before Valentine's Day. Etc. Etc. Just imagine how much the Viking hats and clothes would have sold for if they were out of store when BVG started expressing interest in buying back Yo. Man that would have been nuts. LOL.

Lempika
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:14 am
Rain (110294179) wrote:
Munekun (126426638) wrote:I wonder if they plan on fixing it somehow. I haven't been playing the game long enough to know much about how the prices used to be though, unfortunately.


The Yo Economy is not something that should be or needs to be "fixed." It is what it is and it's an evolving, ongoing thing. Prices go up, prices go down. That's how it goes.

No economy, virtual or real, benefits from outside and artificial manipulation. When that is attempted, everything tanks and EVERYONE suffers, whether you realize it immediately or not. There are so many negative repercussions that effect everyone from the poorest player to BVG themselves. In short, trading grinds to a halt, nobody sells the items you want, and nobody buys YoCash because the exchange rate and buyer confidence have gone down so much.

Nobody needs to own every item. I don't. Let the Yo Economy be what it is and do what it does.

"nobody sells the items you want" It's sort of already like that for me, lmao. I am only interested in Enchanting china and steampunk themes and both seem extremely hard to find for me. I've only came across a handful of items from steampunk and next to none for china, Not counting very small junk items. I have not played the game long enough to really have an opinion that counts for anything but it seems that it will only get worse and worse. But i don't really know what i am talking about as i only started actually playing the game when it was ready to be shut down per my sisters request.

Rain
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:14 am
BL1TZ (183544337) wrote:I'm not sure of guides but there are groups of players in game who like to jack prices which I would consider manipulating :roll:


Technically, even if that is happening, it's not manipulation, it's just really salesmanship. It's still within the market.

What I'm talking about is when the economy is manipulated by the governing body. Like when Zynga re-released some of the 08 costumes. And look what happened, the market crashed hard. There was no consumer confidence and hardly anyone was buying YoCash because it was worthless.

Governments in real life have also tried to manipulate currency value artificially. I'm not a historian, but I'm not aware of any time that resulted in anything positive.

Rain
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:17 am
Munekun (126426638) wrote:It's sort of already like that for me, lmao. I am only interested in Enchanting china and steampunk themes and both seem extremely hard to find for me. I've only came across a handful of items from steampunk and next to none for china, Not counting very small junk items. I have not played the game long enough to really have an opinion that counts for anything but it seems that it will only get worse and worse. But i don't really know what i am talking about as i only started actually playing the game when it was ready to be shut down per my sisters request.


Sometimes you have to hunt for the stuff you want. We all do it and it's part of Yo. You should see me when I need that one last item to complete a room...I don't quit. It's exhausting sometimes to be sure, but I do it, we all do it. And then there are also times when you just have to accept that you cannot have everything. And you know what? You're not entitled to have everything. Neither am I. And that's ok.

TheGeneral(VaultKeeper)
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Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:22 am
Rain (110294179) wrote:
BL1TZ (183544337) wrote:I'm not sure of guides but there are groups of players in game who like to jack prices which I would consider manipulating :roll:


Technically, even if that is happening, it's not manipulation, it's just really salesmanship. It's still within the market.

What I'm talking about is when the economy is manipulated by the governing body. Like when Zynga re-released some of the 08 costumes. And look what happened, the market crashed hard. There was no consumer confidence and hardly anyone was buying YoCash because it was worthless.

Governments in real life have also tried to manipulate currency value artificially. I'm not a historian, but I'm not aware of any time that resulted in anything positive.


And.......you don't think any of these people are with guides? Lol...well your opinion is just that. You're kind of funny in your hidden self.
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