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Kat (106520804) wrote:Sw33tCandy NF2G (170644823) wrote:It doesn't matter what we think. If it was done to protect a grown person or child, if it was due to any gross pics or politics well so be it. Whatever the reasons all that matters is what Andrew said they (HAD) to do it!!! "HAD" is the key word, so no matter what we say it will NOT change that decision it (HAD) to be done. Hackers are everywhere doxing info, so if that is the case I'm sure they feel it was a must.
I understand venting it's understandable, but anything that is said here is just speculation to FACTS we know nothing about the real reasons. There is only one way anyone could know the why's is they'd have to be involved in some way.
Well said!!
Deb YWW (108317798) wrote:What a week it has been in YoWorld!
We all love this game and many of us have made lifelong friends because of it. With that being said, I want to share my own personal views and with the help of a friend, who is an attorney, his speculation based on my questions.
Removing paintboards from the game suddenly, without notice, has torn this community apart. First, the shock of losing our precious images with no warning. Second, anger because we did not have notice of losing these images. At the very least, we felt we deserved a chance to screenshot our rooms/homes before they were taken away from us. Third, what about all of the money, time, and effort that was put into having these created for our homes? What about all of the players who spent countless hours creating these boards for enjoyment of our friends when they visited our homes ? Lastly, feeling like we all were not valued to the extent that BVG did not care enough about us to even immediately give us a better explaination than we got.
We are hurt, knowing that there really is no chance of getting these items back in YoWorld. Some of the players had images that had memorials to their family/friends/loved ones, all gone in the blink of an eye. Some of these paintboards were created by others who have since passed away. Regardless of what we owned, it was in our YoHomes, and it was stolen from us.
I have spent quite some time reading the players views on this issue. It's very clear that most of the players, myself included, are not happy with what has happened. However, I took some time this morning to talk to a personal friend, an attorney, and asked some questions about 'What IF?" His replies to my questions now have given me a better understanding of WHY this may have happened as it did. These answers have helped me to no longer be angry although I still am sad at everyone's loss.
What I am about to say is strictly based on total speculation on my part. I DO NOT have any 'inside information' nor am I in any way speaking on behalf of ANYONE, other than my own questions.
My first question to my friend, after explaining the issue, was "Why do you think this happened like it did?" He replied, 'most likely there was a lawsuit in the works about to be filed against the owner of the game for a violation of some sort.'
I asked how could these innocent paintboards cause the threat of a lawsuit to the owners of the game?
His answers are as follows:
'Whether it be a copyright issue, the possibility of minors seeing the boards with sexual images, or in general, ANYONE, minor or adult, seeing images of nudity, cruelty of animals, pornographic images of underage children, or any number of things that most people would find terribly wrong and upsetting, from sexual acts to decipatated body parts. There could be many other possible things but these are a few of the real possibilities for a lawsuit that would likely put most companies out of business permanently'.
I asked IF a lawsuit was threatened, WHY wouldn't BVG tell us so we would understand?
His reply is 'they can't. IF they said to us this is why, it is the same as pleading guilty to allowing illegal images in a game. Even if the company is not aware of violations, they are still responsible for overseeing their game. Whether the players of said game are minors or adults, it is against the law to allow people to be exposed to these things without prior knowledge or consent. As people in this game go from one area to another, they might unexpectedly see an image that offends them and it's the owner of the game's responsibility to NOT allow that to even be remotely possible. Even if the company has the TOS that everyone 'agrees' to prior to playing the game, that does not prevent people from violating those and in the end, it is the company who would suffer a huge loss for allowing any of this to be a possibility.
As I explained to him that most everyone had paintboards that were legitimate in following BVG's TOS, he said what we all know..'it only takes ONE person reporting something that is illegal to bankrupt a company'. 'Rather than take a chance, they ended ALL paintboards so that there can never be a chance of even one violating the laws.'
Now that I have learned a lot about how and why this MIGHT have happened so quickly, although I'm still sad about the loss of each player who followed the rules, I can honestly say, I understand.
I hope this helps at least one person better understand that regardless of our own personal feelings, this is a company that could lose everything if they had not made the decision as they did. Had that happened, we would not have a game to play at all.
Let's try to heal from this and enjoy our game again. ❤
Deb YWW (108317798) wrote:What a week it has been in YoWorld!
We all love this game and many of us have made lifelong friends because of it. With that being said, I want to share my own personal views and with the help of a friend, who is an attorney, his speculation based on my questions.
Removing paintboards from the game suddenly, without notice, has torn this community apart. First, the shock of losing our precious images with no warning. Second, anger because we did not have notice of losing these images. At the very least, we felt we deserved a chance to screenshot our rooms/homes before they were taken away from us. Third, what about all of the money, time, and effort that was put into having these created for our homes? What about all of the players who spent countless hours creating these boards for enjoyment of our friends when they visited our homes ? Lastly, feeling like we all were not valued to the extent that BVG did not care enough about us to even immediately give us a better explaination than we got.
We are hurt, knowing that there really is no chance of getting these items back in YoWorld. Some of the players had images that had memorials to their family/friends/loved ones, all gone in the blink of an eye. Some of these paintboards were created by others who have since passed away. Regardless of what we owned, it was in our YoHomes, and it was stolen from us.
I have spent quite some time reading the players views on this issue. It's very clear that most of the players, myself included, are not happy with what has happened. However, I took some time this morning to talk to a personal friend, an attorney, and asked some questions about 'What IF?" His replies to my questions now have given me a better understanding of WHY this may have happened as it did. These answers have helped me to no longer be angry although I still am sad at everyone's loss.
What I am about to say is strictly based on total speculation on my part. I DO NOT have any 'inside information' nor am I in any way speaking on behalf of ANYONE, other than my own questions.
My first question to my friend, after explaining the issue, was "Why do you think this happened like it did?" He replied, 'most likely there was a lawsuit in the works about to be filed against the owner of the game for a violation of some sort.'
I asked how could these innocent paintboards cause the threat of a lawsuit to the owners of the game?
His answers are as follows:
'Whether it be a copyright issue, the possibility of minors seeing the boards with sexual images, or in general, ANYONE, minor or adult, seeing images of nudity, cruelty of animals, pornographic images of underage children, or any number of things that most people would find terribly wrong and upsetting, from sexual acts to decipatated body parts. There could be many other possible things but these are a few of the real possibilities for a lawsuit that would likely put most companies out of business permanently'.
I asked IF a lawsuit was threatened, WHY wouldn't BVG tell us so we would understand?
His reply is 'they can't. IF they said to us this is why, it is the same as pleading guilty to allowing illegal images in a game. Even if the company is not aware of violations, they are still responsible for overseeing their game. Whether the players of said game are minors or adults, it is against the law to allow people to be exposed to these things without prior knowledge or consent. As people in this game go from one area to another, they might unexpectedly see an image that offends them and it's the owner of the game's responsibility to NOT allow that to even be remotely possible. Even if the company has the TOS that everyone 'agrees' to prior to playing the game, that does not prevent people from violating those and in the end, it is the company who would suffer a huge loss for allowing any of this to be a possibility.
As I explained to him that most everyone had paintboards that were legitimate in following BVG's TOS, he said what we all know..'it only takes ONE person reporting something that is illegal to bankrupt a company'. 'Rather than take a chance, they ended ALL paintboards so that there can never be a chance of even one violating the laws.'
Now that I have learned a lot about how and why this MIGHT have happened so quickly, although I'm still sad about the loss of each player who followed the rules, I can honestly say, I understand.
I hope this helps at least one person better understand that regardless of our own personal feelings, this is a company that could lose everything if they had not made the decision as they did. Had that happened, we would not have a game to play at all.
Let's try to heal from this and enjoy our game again. ❤
LisaTM (10095126) wrote:However, I'm just wondering if it will be possible for you to create new similar boards with something that can make it impossible for people to use them nefariously. I know zero about coding, but could they be coded to not allow certain images? Could there be a filter on them that stops this?
Chill (126579776) wrote:I don't think it's a lawsuit/authorities, because the physical servers would have been seized and there'd be no Yo this morning.
I think it's the realization of what COULD happen if the authorities found out what was being placed on some paint boards. Those images are felonies in the US. I know because I have reported them to BVG several times over the years. The young men that did it do not understand the liability for BVG if they were reported outside of Yo. But I think BVG finally does and that's why we don't have paint boards today.
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I keep finding rooms where I had used them for something integral. Sheesh........![]()
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Skeet (13722418) wrote:Deb YWW (108317798) wrote:What a week it has been in YoWorld!
We all love this game and many of us have made lifelong friends because of it. With that being said, I want to share my own personal views and with the help of a friend, who is an attorney, his speculation based on my questions.
Removing paintboards from the game suddenly, without notice, has torn this community apart. First, the shock of losing our precious images with no warning. Second, anger because we did not have notice of losing these images. At the very least, we felt we deserved a chance to screenshot our rooms/homes before they were taken away from us. Third, what about all of the money, time, and effort that was put into having these created for our homes? What about all of the players who spent countless hours creating these boards for enjoyment of our friends when they visited our homes ? Lastly, feeling like we all were not valued to the extent that BVG did not care enough about us to even immediately give us a better explaination than we got.
We are hurt, knowing that there really is no chance of getting these items back in YoWorld. Some of the players had images that had memorials to their family/friends/loved ones, all gone in the blink of an eye. Some of these paintboards were created by others who have since passed away. Regardless of what we owned, it was in our YoHomes, and it was stolen from us.
I have spent quite some time reading the players views on this issue. It's very clear that most of the players, myself included, are not happy with what has happened. However, I took some time this morning to talk to a personal friend, an attorney, and asked some questions about 'What IF?" His replies to my questions now have given me a better understanding of WHY this may have happened as it did. These answers have helped me to no longer be angry although I still am sad at everyone's loss.
What I am about to say is strictly based on total speculation on my part. I DO NOT have any 'inside information' nor am I in any way speaking on behalf of ANYONE, other than my own questions.
My first question to my friend, after explaining the issue, was "Why do you think this happened like it did?" He replied, 'most likely there was a lawsuit in the works about to be filed against the owner of the game for a violation of some sort.'
I asked how could these innocent paintboards cause the threat of a lawsuit to the owners of the game?
His answers are as follows:
'Whether it be a copyright issue, the possibility of minors seeing the boards with sexual images, or in general, ANYONE, minor or adult, seeing images of nudity, cruelty of animals, pornographic images of underage children, or any number of things that most people would find terribly wrong and upsetting, from sexual acts to decipatated body parts. There could be many other possible things but these are a few of the real possibilities for a lawsuit that would likely put most companies out of business permanently'.
I asked IF a lawsuit was threatened, WHY wouldn't BVG tell us so we would understand?
His reply is 'they can't. IF they said to us this is why, it is the same as pleading guilty to allowing illegal images in a game. Even if the company is not aware of violations, they are still responsible for overseeing their game. Whether the players of said game are minors or adults, it is against the law to allow people to be exposed to these things without prior knowledge or consent. As people in this game go from one area to another, they might unexpectedly see an image that offends them and it's the owner of the game's responsibility to NOT allow that to even be remotely possible. Even if the company has the TOS that everyone 'agrees' to prior to playing the game, that does not prevent people from violating those and in the end, it is the company who would suffer a huge loss for allowing any of this to be a possibility.
As I explained to him that most everyone had paintboards that were legitimate in following BVG's TOS, he said what we all know..'it only takes ONE person reporting something that is illegal to bankrupt a company'. 'Rather than take a chance, they ended ALL paintboards so that there can never be a chance of even one violating the laws.'
Now that I have learned a lot about how and why this MIGHT have happened so quickly, although I'm still sad about the loss of each player who followed the rules, I can honestly say, I understand.
I hope this helps at least one person better understand that regardless of our own personal feelings, this is a company that could lose everything if they had not made the decision as they did. Had that happened, we would not have a game to play at all.
Let's try to heal from this and enjoy our game again. ❤
Thank you for taking the time to post this. I would hate to lose the game over some bad actors. I really do love yoworld and hope BVG can find some way to make it better.
Deb YWW (108317798) wrote:It's easy to jump to conclusions and find fault with things that happen in the game. But when I took time to better understand what MIGHT have been the ONLY decision that BVG,could make, I realized that the loss of paintboards was, in my opinion, much better than losing the game. I lost a memorial to my parents, and probably close to 100 other boards, many specially made for me by friends. We may not ever know exactly why or what happened, but I am thankful that when logged in this morning, I still had my favorite game available to play!
Chill (126579776) wrote:Deb YWW (108317798) wrote:It's easy to jump to conclusions and find fault with things that happen in the game. But when I took time to better understand what MIGHT have been the ONLY decision that BVG,could make, I realized that the loss of paintboards was, in my opinion, much better than losing the game. I lost a memorial to my parents, and probably close to 100 other boards, many specially made for me by friends. We may not ever know exactly why or what happened, but I am thankful that when logged in this morning, I still had my favorite game available to play!
LindyLou Who (126352247) wrote:Quick question if we don't remember where they all were how are we going to find them if they're invisible ?
Minxy (2717043) wrote:My prediction: those waiting for "clarity" will wait a very long time. Communication has always been a major fault of BVG. They never explain. Not to a banned player who loses all - not to any paying customer who deserves better. It's pure speculation what caused this rash action on their part and I doubt any compensation will actually satisfy those of us who lost memorials, rooms of lost loved ones and so much more. It just smacks of not understanding your customer base. We deserved a days notice at least to preserve what we had in another way. I will never believe that they couldn't just preserve the data and disable the feature, ban the accounts breaking TOS and find a way forward. Nah - took the easy way knowing most will just cop the slap to the face and keep paying and playing anyhow.