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LisaTM
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Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:28 pm
Adeline (113719515) wrote:I am left with the question of who buys into these juvenile power trips that demand a class system? I can't get anyone to tell me if they are a plutocrat.

When I was several months into the game I was privileged to be allowed to tour a guys properties. They were amazing. I have not before or since seen anything like what they guy had and designed. I am sure some of you probably saw his stuff too. His name started with a C and had six letters and he sometimes had a roman numeral after it. Notice I said, I was privileged. Those who took me to meet him and view his stuff acted like we going to see God himself. Now he might have been a plutocrat. I was impressed by what he created and found it interesting that he was so sheltered.


Was it Carlosss or something? The guy that made the McDonald's? He was so talented.

Autumn Glory
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Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:30 pm
Di (117890804) wrote:I understand. But I guess a better way to put it is I do not give it or them my attention. People who mistreat others are reflecting what they are, and that is where they are on their journey. When I used to go to more events I was kicked a few times for what I am not sure, but I figured they were probably doing me a favor and that is not a place I need to be in? What I can control is myself, and how I treat others. I skip the threads here that I am not going to get anything of value out of for myself, and wish us all well doing what it is we are here doing... loving a game that has brought us to a common place. I do not think I am rich or poor, better or worse, or anything other than a person who is playing YoWorld just in the way that is perfect for me. And posting here, I follow the rules set by BVG, but even more importantly I make every attempt to follow the standards as a person that I have set for myself.

Wonderful thread, love the discussion. :)



I agree, they don't get my coins or attention. And for your bolded part, yup! :D

Pete
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Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:32 pm
Adeline (113719515) wrote:I am left with the question of who buys into these juvenile power trips that demand a class system? I can't get anyone to tell me if they are a plutocrat.

When I was several months into the game I was privileged to be allowed to tour a guys properties. They were amazing. I have not before or since seen anything like what they guy had and designed. I am sure some of you probably saw his stuff too. His name started with a C and had six letters and he sometimes had a roman numeral after it. Notice I said, I was privileged. Those who took me to meet him and view his stuff acted like we going to see God himself. Now he might have been a plutocrat. I was impressed by what he created and found it interesting that he was so sheltered.



Plutocrats don't go around telling the world who they are, but they exist. Often found in private facebook groups where they conspire to jack prices on certain items, they also are know to have "families" where they recruit noobs or young people who are susceptible to being groomed into becoming foot soldiers who follow the orders of their families in return for expensive gifts. The foot soldiers then parade around in their expensive items mocking the poor, well, for being poor.

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Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:32 pm
MealsOnWheels (10095126) wrote:Was it Carlosss or something? The guy that made the McDonald's? He was so talented.

Hahaha I remember Carlos his rooms were awesome. I didn't get that *higher than you* vibe from him though he was genuinely a nice player and spent time educating me on how to make the most of the game when I first started out... I wonder where he is now???

Autumn Glory
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Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:34 pm
iJojo UK (109723058) wrote:
Autumn Glory (105171200) wrote:Trust me, I cringed at the terms when typing them, :lol: no words would be pretty to describe it. As I said, not everyone will fit into one category or a category at all, but my point is you can not lump all people into one category and then judge them based on it.


I get where you;re coming from! its the reason I prefer to say newbie as opposed to noobie... players tend to use the term noobie in such a negative way I don't like it.




I HATE the word noob in the context it is used in this game.

Pud
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Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:35 pm
STOP THE THREAD

Jojo agreed with me.

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Pete
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Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:35 pm
Autumn Glory (105171200) wrote:
Autumn Glory (105171200) wrote:
Pete (2679242) wrote:And then there are the plutocrats who use their power to serve their own purposes, thereby increasing poverty and nurturing class conflict, corrupting the yosociety with greed and hedonism.


Who has power? :lol:


Still waiting for an answer on who has power in this game, besides BVG of course, since they are the ONLY ones with power. ;)


It's not the kind of power that BVG has, it's buying/selling power. Groups of extremely rich people who wield enough buying power dictate pricing on "exclusive" items.

LisaTM
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Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:36 pm
iJojo UK (109723058) wrote:
MealsOnWheels (10095126) wrote:Was it Carlosss or something? The guy that made the McDonald's? He was so talented.

Hahaha I remember Carlos his rooms were awesome. I didn't get that *higher than you* vibe from him though he was genuinely a nice player and spent time educating me on how to make the most of the game when I first started out... I wonder where he is now???


I met him once I think at a McDonald's event and I don't recall him being rude at all, no. I tried to google his McDonald's just to see it again and couldn't find it :cry: Hope he returns or comes out of hiding!

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Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:36 pm
iJojo UK (109723058) wrote:
MealsOnWheels (10095126) wrote:Was it Carlosss or something? The guy that made the McDonald's? He was so talented.

Hahaha I remember Carlos his rooms were awesome. I didn't get that *higher than you* vibe from him though he was genuinely a nice player and spent time educating me on how to make the most of the game when I first started out... I wonder where he is now???


I think he is still around. I believe I went to an event of his called McDonalds.....or something like that. One of my favorite parts of the game is seeing other people's rooms. :D

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Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:38 pm
Autumn Glory (105171200) wrote:
iJojo UK (109723058) wrote:
MealsOnWheels (10095126) wrote:Was it Carlosss or something? The guy that made the McDonald's? He was so talented.

Hahaha I remember Carlos his rooms were awesome. I didn't get that *higher than you* vibe from him though he was genuinely a nice player and spent time educating me on how to make the most of the game when I first started out... I wonder where he is now???


I think he is still around. I believe I went to an event of his called McDonalds.....or something like that. One of my favorite parts of the game is seeing other people's rooms. :D


Was this recently you went to his event?

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Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:40 pm
I SAID STOP THE THREAD

Jojo agreed with me.

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LOL

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Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:41 pm
Autumn Glory (105171200) wrote:I think he is still around. I believe I went to an event of his called McDonalds.....or something like that. One of my favorite parts of the game is seeing other people's rooms. :D


Omggg that is awesome. His McD was out of this world. I will keep an eye out for it now..

Me too - that's why I loved the room ratings so much - many players would hold events to showcase their creations. It was at one of this rate up parties I actually met Carlos :D

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Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:42 pm
I loved the McD's house. I still drop in when they run that one. Good times :)

Autumn Glory
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Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:43 pm
Pete (2679242) wrote:
Autumn Glory (105171200) wrote:Still waiting for an answer on who has power in this game, besides BVG of course, since they are the ONLY ones with power. ;)


It's not the kind of power that BVG has, it's buying/selling power. Groups of extremely rich people who wield enough buying power dictate pricing on "exclusive" items.


Well, the way I see it is this. They only have the power we are willing to give them. Sure some might fall for their shady ways, but I don't think they have any real power. I know what you are talking about. I also think that way too much emphasis is placed on "guides" when their own agents don't use the "suggested" prices....but I digress, that is another thread :lol:

My point is this, I have said it before and I will say it again, the only group of players that have REAL power in the game are buyers. If they did not pay the price jacked prices, the sellers would have no choice but to lower their prices OR sit on those items. Being in a society of "I want it, and I want it NOW!" the buyers in this game will never use the power that they do have. So those "extremely rich" can jack up prices all they want, I for one won't play that game. ;)

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Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:43 pm
Autumn Glory (105171200) wrote:I keep seeing these terms thrown around Yo..........Here is my opinion on the rich and poor thing......

I don't like those words......but since people in Yo are fond of them, I will use them in this conversation. I think a better way to define people in this game is "pay to play" and "play for free."

So, in my opinion, the "rich" players are normally the ones who have always bought yocash and therefore have many more coins and items, than those who play using coins only. There will ALWAYS be an unbalance in Yo as long as there is yocash. The thing is though, there are two kinds of "rich" players in my opinion:

Player A has played for years. They have always bought yocash to buy themselves all the premium items they like. They are also able to sell yocash. They have bought and sold items for years. This player also has many older items and then can sell when the items no longer intereste them further building up there coins.

Player B is the cheater. They may have been playing for years, but many times show on new accounts because they have been banned many times in the past. These are the ones who have MANY alts, exploit the glitches, create hacks (FG anyone?) etc. Normally, these are the players who have the most coins in the game.


Then on the other side you have your "poor" players (Ugh I really hate that word):

Player A has played for years and has a lot of items. They buy their yocash items from dealers and in events. They have been collecting their "fortune" for years and normally have a good amount of coins to buy what they like. These are the players "hardest hit" by the increase in yocash rates and in game prices.

Player B is either new or hasn't put a lot of time and effort into the game. These are normally the players you will find making events or at Alton begging for coins.....


Okay yes, these are generalities, but I see people talk about players being rich or poor all the time and to me there is a big difference even within those categories.

I also see people say, "there is no way to get hundreds of millions of coins in this game without cheating." To those people I say, you are wrong. Go back and read Player A from the rich profile. They deal Yocash, they have old 08 items, they have all the coveted yocash items in the game. Now, look at what items are actually selling for in the game. If Player A sells many of the things they have collected over the years, it is VERY likely they will have over a hundred million coins.

In my opinion, it is not fair to say these people are cheaters. There are true cheaters in the game. I have seen people throw names around......"Player XYZ, is the richest in the game......." The sad thing is, some players see their coins and what they have and envy them. They do not deserve to be envied or respected if they need to use ilegal means to get their "wealth." It is all about perspective.

In the end, "rich" or "poor" does not matter in a game. If you are having fun, that is what matters. Yes the price structure is higher now, and some players might need to adjust how they play the game. I look at it like anything else in life, sometimes you can't have everything you want, but you can have what you are willing to work for.

If you are dependent on yocash dealers for your enjoyment in this game, then I think you should thank them instead of complaining about their rates. Sure you might not like using your virtual coins to buy the things they spent real money on, but you don't have to have those items either. There are options. If you can't buy your own, then sell items you like less or save up until you can afford it.

The game has changed. Time to adapt to the new ways. :D

What are your thoughts?


Very well said. :)

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Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:43 pm
MealsOnWheels (10095126) wrote:Was this recently you went to his event?


yup, about 2 weeks ago or less maybe.....

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Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:44 pm
Hot Rod (126579776) wrote:I SAID STOP THE THREAD

Jojo agreed with me.

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Hahahaha Ikr : Image

Let's not get carried away now though!!

Kio
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Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:44 pm
iJojo UK
You rock that barrel costume better than anybody!! :lol:

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Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:46 pm
Robot (185180932) wrote:iJojo UK
You rock that barrel costume better than anybody!! :lol:


hahaha - why thank you Sir, this ole thing!! :lol:

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Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:47 pm
iJojo UK (109723058) wrote:
Autumn Glory (105171200) wrote:I think he is still around. I believe I went to an event of his called McDonalds.....or something like that. One of my favorite parts of the game is seeing other people's rooms. :D


Omggg that is awesome. His McD was out of this world. I will keep an eye out for it now..

Me too - that's why I loved the room ratings so much - many players would hold events to showcase their creations. It was at one of this rate up parties I actually met Carlos :D


I REALLY miss those old rate up parties. I loved going to events to see how the clever people were decorating. Those were the great days before the homes that come pre-decorated. All the forced perspective, pictures created with free items, homes where you could change the wallpaper outside and in. Like Rod said.... good times.
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