Rod (126579776) wrote:

Kelly (150638974) wrote:this may get me locked or banned but Do we need to file a lawsuit over the Paint Boards ? It's Theft and you know it ! why disable them ? was over the Trump Paint Boards being sold ? are you that WOKE ? thinking we to stand up and boycott the game for a week so you can feel the loss we have taken ! June 20th to June 27th Boycott ! MAKE THEM FEEL THE LOSS !

So in the TOS that you agreed to when you opened your account in Yo, you released the game's operator from any liability when they had to make changes to Yo for any reason. And since we don't "own" anything in Yo, all we've lost is our lease to the paint boards. Technically, we enjoyed that lease from the time we bought the paint board until BVG had to remove them. So we did receive some value from having it. The expectation that we get to enjoy the lease to our items in perpetuity is false. Accusing them of theft is false.

You are allowed to speculate about the cause of their removal, just as we all are. But sure, they decided to upset the entire player community for political reasons centered around the guy you mentioned. According to him, everything revolves around him anyway. So why not! LOL

Notice in my reply I said no words that could be interpreted as expressing a political opinion.

Stormy Amphitrite (186654727) wrote:

LisaTM (10095126) wrote:

Kelly (150638974) wrote:this may get me locked or banned but Do we need to file a lawsuit over the Paint Boards ? It's Theft and you know it ! why disable them ? was over the Trump Paint Boards being sold ? are you that WOKE ? thinking we to stand up and boycott the game for a week so you can feel the loss we have taken ! June 20th to June 27th Boycott ! MAKE THEM FEEL THE LOSS !

I don't know what to unpack first with this. Your conspiracy theory and your inquiry about filing a lawsuit are equally . . . eh. You really drove it home with the "WOKE" stuff. Way to go. I'm not touching that.

If you want to understand things, try reading or at least skimming through this thread. You might learn something instead of spouting conspiracy theories and anti "woke" stuff.

why are there no beer or coffee emojis? because i think coffee or beer is more appropriate right now.

I can't have beer and caffeine doesn't agree with me, but I'll take my whisky. Even that doesn't numb things enough with some of the crazy anymore. But good point! The closest thing we have to a wake up emoji is the one. I prefer words over emojis, but some here (not you!) only know how to communicate with emojis and memes.

There is a woman in one of my groups that lost the board she had made in memory of her mother. You didn't have to do this... you took the easy way out and hurt your supporter base at the same time. The definition of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

LisaTM (10095126) wrote:

Amy Pond (117302962) wrote:DAY 12

I'm sorry and I know how much this all sucks, but unless/until they can figure out a solution, it will be at best indefinite waiting and at worst permanent. I'm by no means downplaying your or anyone's feelings about this and I feel equally upset and frustrated. But realistically, if they have any sort of plan to restore them and recode them so they can't be abused or implement something that can catch the bad things right away and shut them down, we're going to be waiting.

I don't think they are capable of a quick fix/restoration

, sadly.

I agree, I just refuse to go down without a fight lol

Stormy Amphitrite (186654727) wrote:

Kelly (150638974) wrote:this may get me locked or banned but Do we need to file a lawsuit over the Paint Boards ? It's Theft and you know it ! why disable them ? was over the Trump Paint Boards being sold ? are you that WOKE ? thinking we to stand up and boycott the game for a week so you can feel the loss we have taken ! June 20th to June 27th Boycott ! MAKE THEM FEEL THE LOSS !

WTF? So you are angry at "WOKE" peeps over playing politics and now insert your obvious politics into the game? lol lol

let me font style this so you can understand it better
IT HAD ZERO TO DO WITH POLITICS. PERHAPS START AROUND WHERE THOSE ON THIS TOPIC BEGIN TALKING ABOUT ACTUAL, POSSIBLE LEGAL REASONS WHERE BVG WAS FORCED TO DO THIS.
"Legal" as in consult Websters.

There are some people that have to bring politics into every discussion. As for "boycotting", I know it's not June 20th yet but I made a purchase just to get a head start on my non-boycott. When people try to pressure me into doing what they want, I tend to dig in my heels and do the opposite. I'm Irish and a Taurus & we're just a tad stubborn.

Rod (126579776) wrote:

Adeline (113719515) wrote:

Rod (126579776) wrote:"But sure, they decided to upset the entire player community for political reasons centered around the guy you mentioned. According to him, everything revolves around him anyway. So why not! LOL

love this Rod!

He's no worse than the marionette with zero opinions on the other side.

Good gosh can we not have an intelligent, graceful, and inspiring person who isn't retirement age to vote for? Is that asking too much? I guess so.........

I'd be entertained by it all if the consequences of whoever wins weren't so significant. Oh wait, rich people will win either way. Never mind........

I can't do the ageism thing, My hubby is 19 yrs older than me at 81. While he might be absentminded or forget that movie etc he is in full control of his decision making and how he feels about things. That's why judging people's abilities and minds by age does not work, which is also my not saying I agree on forum or not about that candidate who is not the one who believes he is the sun of his own solar system.

MsInformed (12279330) wrote:OMGOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just now am seeing this!!! I'm an artist and I also had art I bought from others or was gifted!! I just went to my art studio and EVERYTHING is GONE!!!!!!!! WTH!!!! I work a full time job I do not have a lot of time to dedicate coming here to learn what new things are happening. And normally I just roll with the punches... BUT THIS??????????? I am so UPSET right now I cannot even find words!!!!! HOURS OF MY WORK GONE!!!!!!!!!!! YEARS GONE!!!!!

I feel the same way, its not even the coins, it's the time I invested, even if the boards come back, unless they come with my existing images, I have no desire in spending more time re doing them all

Stormy Amphitrite (186654727) wrote:

Rod (126579776) wrote:

Adeline (113719515) wrote:

Rod (126579776) wrote:"But sure, they decided to upset the entire player community for political reasons centered around the guy you mentioned. According to him, everything revolves around him anyway. So why not! LOL

love this Rod!

He's no worse than the marionette with zero opinions on the other side.

Good gosh can we not have an intelligent, graceful, and inspiring person who isn't retirement age to vote for? Is that asking too much? I guess so.........

I'd be entertained by it all if the consequences of whoever wins weren't so significant. Oh wait, rich people will win either way. Never mind........

I can't do the ageism thing, My hubby is 19 yrs older than me at 81. While he might be absentminded or forget that movie etc he is in full control of his decision making and how he feels about things. That's why judging people's abilities and minds by age does not work, which is also my not saying I agree on forum or not about that candidate who is not the one who believes he is the sun of his own solar system.

Actually, i have no issue with age but i am very concerned that we do not see many qualified and/or inspiring rising up to run in the future. too much fear out there i think.

Adeline (113719515) wrote:

Stormy Amphitrite (186654727) wrote:

Rod (126579776) wrote:

Adeline (113719515) wrote:

Rod (126579776) wrote:"But sure, they decided to upset the entire player community for political reasons centered around the guy you mentioned. According to him, everything revolves around him anyway. So why not! LOL

love this Rod!

He's no worse than the marionette with zero opinions on the other side.

Good gosh can we not have an intelligent, graceful, and inspiring person who isn't retirement age to vote for? Is that asking too much? I guess so.........

I'd be entertained by it all if the consequences of whoever wins weren't so significant. Oh wait, rich people will win either way. Never mind........

I can't do the ageism thing, My hubby is 19 yrs older than me at 81. While he might be absentminded or forget that movie etc he is in full control of his decision making and how he feels about things. That's why judging people's abilities and minds by age does not work, which is also my not saying I agree on forum or not about that candidate who is not the one who believes he is the sun of his own solar system.

Actually, i have no issue with age but i am very concerned that we do not see many qualified and/or inspiring rising up to run in the future. too much fear out there i think.

I'm very much an ageist. I see the decline in people all the time from it, both professionally and personally. They lose not just energy, but also creativity, adaptability, flexibility, focus, and drive. I realize there are exceptions, but as a rule it's a bad plan. We have 2 perfect examples of the risk - a couple of mentally soft old dudes who should be arguing over what channel the tv is on in the rec room instead vying for the US presidency. They should debate each other in rocking chairs on a porch.

The problem with finding younger candidates who are qualified is based in the seniority (reverse ageism) picks made by party leadership. They pick their buddies for better roles, who are all as old or older than they are. The "new" candidates have to "earn" it by serving time - thus eliminating them from presidential contention based on experience. The other reality is that we expect perfection in the people chosen. And there are so few adults who haven't committed some "electability" sin along the way. They've either spouted something at one point that someone saw as racist/sexist/elitest/dumb/cruel etc etc etc. Everything is recorded now, so their mistakes are documented for eternity. Nobody forgives because no one is allowed to forget - thanks to our entertainment based media.

Politics are one of my favorite topics, often because they are so polarizing. People tend to pick a team and ride or die with it, not understanding that both teams are the problem. They are out of control.

you have to pay me back :

How will you guys compensate for my paintboards i payed many many millions for my boards to be drawn on some of them even yocash as i have counted it will be around 110 million coins and 215 yocash and bcz of the bad decission you bvg guys took then i will doubble it 4 times so 440 million coins and 860 yocash im looking forward to have on my account tomorrow tyvm

x Takashi x (187875999) wrote:you have to pay me back :

How will you guys compensate for my paintboards i payed many many millions for my boards to be drawn on some of them even yocash as i have counted it will be around 110 million coins and 215 yocash and bcz of the bad decission you bvg guys took then i will doubble it 4 times so 440 million coins and 860 yocash im looking forward to have on my account tomorrow tyvm

I very much doubt we will get compensated this much

Rod (126579776) wrote:

Adeline (113719515) wrote:

Stormy Amphitrite (186654727) wrote:

Rod (126579776) wrote:

Adeline (113719515) wrote:

Rod (126579776) wrote:"But sure, they decided to upset the entire player community for political reasons centered around the guy you mentioned. According to him, everything revolves around him anyway. So why not! LOL

love this Rod!

He's no worse than the marionette with zero opinions on the other side.

Good gosh can we not have an intelligent, graceful, and inspiring person who isn't retirement age to vote for? Is that asking too much? I guess so.........

I'd be entertained by it all if the consequences of whoever wins weren't so significant. Oh wait, rich people will win either way. Never mind........

I can't do the ageism thing, My hubby is 19 yrs older than me at 81. While he might be absentminded or forget that movie etc he is in full control of his decision making and how he feels about things. That's why judging people's abilities and minds by age does not work, which is also my not saying I agree on forum or not about that candidate who is not the one who believes he is the sun of his own solar system.

Actually, i have no issue with age but i am very concerned that we do not see many qualified and/or inspiring rising up to run in the future. too much fear out there i think.

I'm very much an ageist. I see the decline in people all the time from it, both professionally and personally. They lose not just energy, but also creativity, adaptability, flexibility, focus, and drive. I realize there are exceptions, but as a rule it's a bad plan. We have 2 perfect examples of the risk - a couple of mentally soft old dudes who should be arguing over what channel the tv is on in the rec room instead vying for the US presidency. They should debate each other in rocking chairs on a porch.

The problem with finding younger candidates who are qualified is based in the seniority (reverse ageism) picks made by party leadership. They pick their buddies for better roles, who are all as old or older than they are. The "new" candidates have to "earn" it by serving time - thus eliminating them from presidential contention based on experience. The other reality is that we expect perfection in the people chosen. And there are so few adults who haven't committed some "electability" sin along the way. They've either spouted something at one point that someone saw as racist/sexist/elitest/dumb/cruel etc etc etc. Everything is recorded now, so their mistakes are documented for eternity. Nobody forgives because no one is allowed to forget - thanks to our entertainment based media.

Politics are one of my favorite topics, often because they are so polarizing. People tend to pick a team and ride or die with it, not understanding that both teams are the problem. They are out of control.

Fallacious argument, sorry. You are using the standard both sides excuse. I'm not saying either side is perfect, but there is a huge difference if you can be bothered to pay attention. I'm not going to name names for examples, but there are plenty. The fact that you enjoy polarizing topics and the both sides argument says a lot about how little you understand what's at stake. I'm not going to touch that any further.

As for the ageism and your admitting to being an ageist, hey at least you're honest. It's also fallacious to assume younger people will be better. There are plenty of rotten younger ones. You think everyone else is the problem, but your attitude is a huge part of the problem. I could go on and on explaining how this all works, but it's a waste of time and would be lost on you.

LisaTM (10095126) wrote:Fallacious argument, sorry. You are using the standard both sides excuse. I'm not saying either side is perfect, but there is a huge difference if you can be bothered to pay attention. I'm not going to name names for examples, but there are plenty. The fact that you enjoy polarizing topics and the both sides argument says a lot about how little you understand what's at stake. I'm not going to touch that any further.

As for the ageism and your admitting to being an ageist, hey at least you're honest. It's also fallacious to assume younger people will be better. There are plenty of rotten younger ones. You think everyone else is the problem, but your attitude is a huge part of the problem. I could go on and on explaining how this all works, but it's a waste of time and would be lost on you.

What's at stake is which fox gets the keys to henhouse. But they will still steal our eggs and occasionally eat one of us. Tis true there are bad options in every age bracket. There's also something to be said for the wisdom age and experience is supposed to bring.

None of it is lost on me. There is only one joystick and both parties use the excuse they need it to keep the other side from crashing the plane. The problem is that neither party knows how to fly anymore. But as long as they keep us at each other's throats over which team should get the joystick, we'll ignore the real problem - them. They no longer govern. They pander. They serve special interests and the wealthy, and no longer take care of the people with anything but words.

I realize the Oompa Loompa is caustic, rude, and insane. But I also realize the Marionette is dry, lost, and a puppet. Both are extreme threats to good leadership. I write in my vote every time, because I can't be part of either plane crash. And maybe that is "give up"? But I refuse to vote for incompetent people. The system is broken and the people lose every time.

Rod (126579776) wrote:

LisaTM (10095126) wrote:Fallacious argument, sorry. You are using the standard both sides excuse. I'm not saying either side is perfect, but there is a huge difference if you can be bothered to pay attention. I'm not going to name names for examples, but there are plenty. The fact that you enjoy polarizing topics and the both sides argument says a lot about how little you understand what's at stake. I'm not going to touch that any further.

As for the ageism and your admitting to being an ageist, hey at least you're honest. It's also fallacious to assume younger people will be better. There are plenty of rotten younger ones. You think everyone else is the problem, but your attitude is a huge part of the problem. I could go on and on explaining how this all works, but it's a waste of time and would be lost on you.

What's at stake is which fox gets the keys to henhouse. But they will still steal our eggs and occasionally eat one of us. Tis true there are bad options in every age bracket. There's also something to be said for the wisdom age and experience is supposed to bring.

None of it is lost on me. There is only one joystick and both parties use the excuse they need it to keep the other side from crashing the plane. The problem is that neither party knows how to fly anymore. But as long as they keep us at each other's throats over which team should get the joystick, we'll ignore the real problem - them. They no longer govern. They pander. They serve special interests and the wealthy, and no longer take care of the people with anything but words.

I realize the Oompa Loompa is caustic, rude, and insane. But I also realize the Marionette is dry, lost, and a puppet. Both are extreme threats to good leadership. I write in my vote every time, because I can't be part of either plane crash. And maybe that is "give up"? But I refuse to vote for incompetent people. The system is broken and the people lose every time.

how big will they lose if medicare and social security and the right for women to vote are lost? That is what is at stake.

Adeline (113719515) wrote:how big will they lose if medicare and social security and the right for women to vote are lost? That is what is at stake.

Pandering words designed to elicit support for one team by creating fear about another. I'm not minimizing the fear, because that loose cannon is liable to do ANYTHING that lines his pockets. But the other team uses the same language to create fear of the other option. And those fears are also just possible.

We have to get beyond the fear to see what is really happening. It's simply a contest over money, influence, and power that uses the people as pawns. Nothing really ever changes unless it can effect how the parties get access to more money, influence, and power. They usually get there with words alone, but occasionally they are forced to deliver some actual change. But that is rare.

Rod (126579776) wrote:

Adeline (113719515) wrote:how big will they lose if medicare and social security and the right for women to vote are lost? That is what is at stake.

Pandering words designed to elicit support for one team by creating fear about another. I'm not minimizing the fear, because that loose cannon is liable to do ANYTHING that lines his pockets. But the other team uses the same language to create fear of the other option. And those fears are also just possible.

We have to get beyond the fear to see what is really happening. It's simply a contest over money, influence, and power that uses the people as pawns. Nothing really ever changes unless it can effect how the parties get access to more money, influence, and power. They usually get there with words alone, but occasionally they are forced to deliver some actual change. But that is rare.

It is a trend - look at Europe.

I would love to chat about politics and culture and wealth and corruption ad nauseum. But every word I type about it is technically out of bounds for these forums. My apologies for responding to the paint board political conspiracy by opening up the topic further. I love how passionate people get about it, but I'm done. I won't wait for Andrew to warn us. Thank you guys for sharing your thoughts.

x Takashi x (187875999) wrote:you have to pay me back :

How will you guys compensate for my paintboards i payed many many millions for my boards to be drawn on some of them even yocash as i have counted it will be around 110 million coins and 215 yocash and bcz of the bad decission you bvg guys took then i will doubble it 4 times so 440 million coins and 860 yocash im looking forward to have on my account tomorrow tyvm

Let me know if they pay you back pls bcs i got many paintboards too that were worked and maybe if they pay you I will start to make math to see how much they own to me hhahahahah

Rod (126579776) wrote:

Adeline (113719515) wrote:how big will they lose if medicare and social security and the right for women to vote are lost? That is what is at stake.

Pandering words designed to elicit support for one team by creating fear about another. I'm not minimizing the fear, because that loose cannon is liable to do ANYTHING that lines his pockets. But the other team uses the same language to create fear of the other option. And those fears are also just possible.

We have to get beyond the fear to see what is really happening. It's simply a contest over money, influence, and power that uses the people as pawns. Nothing really ever changes unless it can effect how the parties get access to more money, influence, and power. They usually get there with words alone, but occasionally they are forced to deliver some actual change. But that is rare.

No. Until we have another party who can really fix things relatively quickly, this is where we are. In the current times, it really IS the lesser evil. And maybe we're so screwed that that it's not going to be a quick fix after decades of the same old yadda. If you don't think this yadda spills into the game, you are wrong. Just stop already. You have outed yourself as a non-voter/one-sided/single issue voter. You're more transparent than you think you are. You waffle on everything from game content to sociology to politics and on and on. You've pretty much painted yourself as a dude who likes to grill and enjoy other masculine activities. I'm going to walk away now before I add anything else.

Anyway actually the Paint boards are disabled and everything has been said seem a big bla bla bla..... and who payed twice and twices for all this is us loyal players that we lost our paintboards draws..and with them memories that can't be compensated... Im wondering if and how you are going to "compensate" us for all this