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Mistyfied
YoEnthusiast

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Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:08 pm
interesting - asking for more time is good; what is better? while we wait compensation would be helpful and more details might make the emotional loss a bit easier for some.

Beanie
YoDedicated

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Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:55 pm
All the art i did for myself , friends and my ducky were freehand and most were Halloween or like the art on the walls in nyc by Banksy. I am so sad all my hard work is gone. :( :wailing: :wailing:

Lisa Rene
YoNovice

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Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:11 pm
Yoworld players are dropping like flies right now because of this PB decision. I don't use paint boards except for sales but the impact of them being gone is huge for everyone. It feels like you shot your own self in the foot because lots of players don't trust you anymore. There are rumors of Yoworld ending either the last day of June or September. You need to address this because a lot of people are afraid to spend the money on yocash. It feels like you purposely defeated yourself. Why? And if you even watch the events you can see that that's the overall feeling in YO among the players. I would really like to see an official announcement on if yoworld is ending or not. I feel like this needs to be addressed for everyone including BVG to get the trust of people back. :heartbroken:

Amy Pond
YoDedicated

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Fri Jun 21, 2024 9:26 pm
IF paintboards return I do not have the time to redo them,. what is done is done.
I haven't purchased yc in a very very long time, I do not even decorate rooms anymore and recently stopped doing gem events. I log in to collect yc from the calendar and video ads.. Until there is a theme I REALLY want to do I won't be spending the yc I have hoarded either.
The PB saga didn't trigger the above, the lack of theme interest did. That said, the love of my who inspired rooms was impacted by the PB saga, and the love of the game really is what drives most of us to even log in.

Amy Pond
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Fri Jun 21, 2024 9:32 pm
If the game did end, I am not bothered anymore since my best rooms are no longer the cherished ones I had pre PB saga. The only reason I even came back was because of the PB created rooms.

Jade
YoDedicated

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Registered: Nov 24, 2009
Posts: 6065

Fri Jun 21, 2024 9:58 pm
Lisa Rene (10865732) wrote:Yoworld players are dropping like flies right now because of this PB decision. I don't use paint boards except for sales but the impact of them being gone is huge for everyone. It feels like you shot your own self in the foot because lots of players don't trust you anymore. There are rumors of Yoworld ending either the last day of June or September. You need to address this because a lot of people are afraid to spend the money on yocash. It feels like you purposely defeated yourself. Why? And if you even watch the events you can see that that's the overall feeling in YO among the players. I would really like to see an official announcement on if yoworld is ending or not. I feel like this needs to be addressed for everyone including BVG to get the trust of people back. :heartbroken:


Here is some info from Viking Andrew that he posted in this thread! viewtopic.php?f=2&t=249408

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LindyLou Who
YoWild

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Registered: Oct 03, 2009
Posts: 14561

Fri Jun 21, 2024 10:02 pm
Windy (187621989) wrote:>> Given a choice - game shut down or no paint boards, where do you all stand?

SHUT IT DOWN.

Without the personalization of the paint boards, there is no point. Might as well have burned my thousands of dollars in the street.

My lawyer says this is not actionable legally. If we can't sue 'em, we gotta boycott 'em. For many of us, BVG screwed us thoroughly. They expect us to go along with it and keep paying. NO WAY, JOSE!

Unless you're here for Viking Paint By Numbers, the only answer is to LEAVE. And if you stay, never give this company ANY money. It cannot be trusted with your funds (leaving them to burn in the street, uselessly). It does not care about you.

Of course, you'll decide if you want to stand tall or crawl in submission to a ruthless, greedy, and uncaring Canadian capitalist construct.

BVG is a VILE company pushing mindless conformity for filthy lucre. If you want to give it your money, well, a lot of people support a convicted felon for US president. Maddening and terrifying. I pray intelligent people of integrity will kick BVG to the curb as it has kicked us in the face AND POCKETBOOK time and time again.

We don't matter to BVG, only our CASH matters.

SHUT IT DOWN. Boycott them and leave the company in debt and in ruins. That is what BVG deserves.



I would gladly do that but let me ask you this are you going to reimburse me for what I've spent? I've spent thousands on this game and while they taught me it can be gone in a heartbeat if they want it to be I'm not just going to throw it away if I don't have to .I will how ever be very careful from now on with my spending. They've taught me a valuable lesson. :sad:

LilyDarling
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Fri Jun 21, 2024 10:15 pm
I'm sympathetic to the people who lost art and treasured items, memorials and so on. But BVG didn't shoot themselves in the foot just to entertain themselves. They had to have a very good reason and I'm with Rod on this.

That being said, I am not changing any game play. People have come and gone from this game forever, I've been playing since 09. People have stopped buying yocash at various times, I certainly have, mostly out of boredom when nothing was striking my fancy. That being said, when I want to spend I will, and personally I thought that the anniversary items were off the hook. I was happy to spend on them. I'm willing to wait for a theme I like, and Halloween usually doesn't disappoint. Until then I'll keep updating my hair collection. And then downsizing. And then my HH, and then I might redesign a room I'm not happy with. Gawd knows there are tons of themes I haven't really explored. I don't really have a lot of time to play so I'm easily amused and delighted. I like BVG's interactives as well.

Thanks BVG for keeping the game safe. That must have been a tough decision. :rose:

Janet
YoNovice

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Fri Jun 21, 2024 10:16 pm
Viking Andrew wrote:Hello YoFans,

Over the past few weeks our team has received considerable feedback regarding the decision to disable Paint Boards. We understand that Paint Boards are an important part of community events, trading hubs, and your own artistic expression in game - and we’re deeply appreciative of the screenshots you’ve shared showing how much your art means to you. We apologize for the inconvenience this action has caused to our community.

As a result of unforeseen issues, players were able to abuse Paint Boards in ways that were never intended, and were in direct violation of our TOS. The decision to disable these items and remove all existing in game content was difficult but necessary for the safety of our community. While this feature is still disabled, our team is investigating how Paint Boards can safely be re-enabled. We are not able to provide an ETA as to when this investigation will be complete, but resolving this issue is our highest priority.

Once we have a better understanding of the long-term status of the Paint Boards feature, we’ll be able to provide more clarity regarding the future of Paint Boards. This will include information about content previously saved on paint boards as well as compensation for this feature outage.

Please know that our team is working hard to reach a solution as quickly as possible. Your safety when playing in YoWorld is our number one priority. It's critically important that we move with care when investigating any issue that may impact a social feature as largely used as this one.

Thank you for your patience and understanding.

-The YoWorld Team


Thank-you Vikings for recognizing our losses. I hope you're able to come up with a workable solution that will allow you to turn the boards back on for trusted players. I've left all my PB enhanced rooms untouched in hopes that one day I'll return to my cartoon world creations. Good luck finding a solution.

ChloePumpkin
YoGroupie

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Registered: Mar 27, 2011
Posts: 4410

Fri Jun 21, 2024 10:30 pm
BsZ Tee (2459101) wrote:
KeiranxMsHappy (187665777) wrote:@ChloePumpkin the brass frames are working again i've been putting fb pics back in them


Mine worked for a few days and then stopped working again but as far as I know it's more a Facebook issue than a BVG Issue.


Same here. I can add them in FB & they show up in the YW browser for a few days, then disappear again.

ChloePumpkin
YoGroupie

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Fri Jun 21, 2024 10:36 pm
Rod (126579776) wrote:
Windy (187621989) wrote:>> Given a choice - game shut down or no paint boards, where do you all stand?

SHUT IT DOWN.

Without the personalization of the paint boards, there is no point. Might as well have burned my thousands of dollars in the street.

My lawyer says this is not actionable legally. If we can't sue 'em, we gotta boycott 'em. For many of us, BVG screwed us thoroughly. They expect us to go along with it and keep paying. NO WAY, JOSE!

Unless you're here for Viking Paint By Numbers, the only answer is to LEAVE. And if you stay, never give this company ANY money. It cannot be trusted with your funds (leaving them to burn in the street, uselessly). It does not care about you.

Of course, you'll decide if you want to stand tall or crawl in submission to a ruthless, greedy, and uncaring Canadian capitalist construct.

BVG is a VILE company pushing mindless conformity for filthy lucre. If you want to give it your money, well, a lot of people support a convicted felon for US president. Maddening and terrifying. I pray intelligent people of integrity will kick BVG to the curb as it has kicked us in the face AND POCKETBOOK time and time again.

We don't matter to BVG, only our CASH matters.

SHUT IT DOWN. Boycott them and leave the company in debt and in ruins. That is what BVG deserves.

No :)


What Rod said.

ChloePumpkin
YoGroupie

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Registered: Mar 27, 2011
Posts: 4410

Fri Jun 21, 2024 10:40 pm
Windy (187621989) wrote:
ChloePumpkin (176209997) wrote:As for "boycotting", I know it's not June 20th yet but I made a purchase just to get a head start on my non-boycott. When people try to pressure me into doing what they want, I tend to dig in my heels and do the opposite. I'm Irish and a Taurus & we're just a tad stubborn. :haha:


You are the perfect BVG customer!

Hope you enjoy burning through cash for bvg's pleasure.

A lot of people will leave and boycott. Many have cancelled VIP. Many have walked away. IMO, BVG has earned every departure and every boycotted. I pray that so many people flee that it collapses the firm. I want BVG out of business. Only that will allow me to live with the knowledge that I've lost thousands of dollars with this loser company. Lacking that, I will spread the word far and wide to people in hopes they never start using this company or its products,

You certainly have the right to do as you will: If giving them your money and having no creative outlet here works for you, perhaps this horrid company has a future. But without artists! Not that you care, apparently. Have fun in conformity land!

Just a terrible company...


Aw, thank you so much! And to show just how perfect I am, I just made another purchase! :bye:

TikiChic
YoApprentice

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Registered: Jul 25, 2009
Posts: 194

Fri Jun 21, 2024 11:23 pm
I feel the same way about all my picture frames that have been lost for years now. When you fix the boards, fix the picture frames, too.

Ben
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Posts: 206

Fri Jun 21, 2024 11:47 pm
From a player, community, and marketing perspective, I'm not sure you (Vikings) realize the negative impact the downtime on these boards may have in terms of player activity and engagement which in turn equals a decline in sales and profits. I'm speaking from an unbiased perspective as I don't really use, nor rely on paintboards. I'm going to assume this also interlinks with picture frames being disabled, but correct me if I'm wrong. YoWorld falls into a category of online gaming that, beyond being a casual online social game, I would classify as an "economy" game. By that I mean, the player engagement is highly attributed to the market of over 200,000+ items. Buying things, selling, gambling, bartering, flipping, and gifting them, hunting rares, etc.. These paintboards were most often utilized for buying/selling events, even if that wasn't exactly the intended method as it requires a 3rd party extension. Regardless, that's just the reality. I have experience in managing several online games/gaming communities that fall into that economy genre. When you take away the most direct method/tool for trading and commerce in an economy game, or it goes into prolonged downtime, you're in trouble.

Auction house is really not a reliable nor adequate substitute due to lack of item variety in comparison to the entirety of tradeable items, as well as the inconsistency and instability of items and their prices. Auction house also lacks buyer accessibility as you can only buy what's actively being sold. With the endless amount of tradeable items, this makes it very unlikely you can find anything specific being sold, much less at an (even mildly) reasonable price. Due to having no real active official platform for trade, it's been taken over by a vast number of trading communities/FB pages. There's many issues that prevent these from being an adequate substitute: the questionable integrity of some groups, the exclusivity, the activity, and above all, just the sheer number of them diverging players from engaging in a common market and feeling like a chore in attempts to do so. These paintboards were a direct, in-game, real-time method of trade that also promoted event activity and socialization within the game. With the most effective and painless method of trade taken away, it's going to hinder the active market in the game and frustrate the players trying to engage with it.

If players feel incapable of participating in that market, you'll almost certainly see many of those players reducing their playing time or leaving altogether. You'll see less profits from micro-transactions as those limited time deals and slot rewards rares become less appealing since there's no reliable market for them... And a lot of players, including myself, buy those for trading purposes. Player count will drop as a brief glance at the events log will show that upwards of 75% of events are trading focused.

My suggestion: Obviously the game, long may it live, has a quirky and dated code. And that's fine for what it is, but I'm unsure of where "realistic" is when it comes to suggestions as they may require significant development. I'm assuming that your cryptic reasoning for disabling is that people could obviously upload all assortments of inappropriate/harmful images to their paintboards and picture frames. My suggestion would be to incorporate some kind of item/visual interface in which players could upload images of their items for the purpose of trade. I believe your database already has unique ID numbers for every item, so this wouldn't allow you to freely post images, but only officially recognized items and their thumbnail pictures. I could be wrong but it feels like this could be somewhat similar to the mechanics/code of the AH. Another suggestion that would be a major quality of life update would be adding a "buying" section to the AH. Players could search for an item they want by their ID number and offer a preset price of their offer. Players could browse this like AH and sell their items with the click of a button. This could have a limit of a specific amount of "buying" ads. But please understand how these boards played an integral part of the game even if this wasn't exactly the criticism you'd expected or considered.

Whisper
#1 YoFiend

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Fri Jun 21, 2024 11:49 pm
Windy (187621989) wrote:Hope you enjoy burning through cash for bvg's pleasure.

A lot of people will leave and boycott. Many have cancelled VIP. Many have walked away. IMO, BVG has earned every departure and every boycotted. I pray that so many people flee that it collapses the firm. I want BVG out of business. Only that will allow me to live with the knowledge that I've lost thousands of dollars with this loser company. Lacking that, I will spread the word far and wide to people in hopes they never start using this company or its products,

You certainly have the right to do as you will: If giving them your money and having no creative outlet here works for you, perhaps this horrid company has a future. But without artists! Not that you care, apparently. Have fun in conformity land!

Just a terrible company...

The idea that we own anything in Yo is flawed. We buy leases to items that we can enjoy for as long as we want. It is fully disclosed that BVG has the right to alter this game for any reason should they chose to do so. And that our leases terminate if BVG decides to do it.

Yes players have the right to be upset and act out however they choose when BVG does things like this. But they didn't do it to upset anyone. They didn't shoot themselves in the foot for the hell of it. They didn't do it just to piss us off. They ran into a risk they couldn't walk away from, and the end of paint boards was the short term fix.

So you can whip up all the torches and pitchforks you want and try to make it sound like the entire player base is quitting. And sure, some people are very upset and staying away because of it. But the Yo habit is hard to kick. I've seen people return after the most difficult of experiences in here. So good luck with your emotions. The odds are against you personally keeping your promises, much less getting others to join you.

It's ok to feel upset. It really is. And anger is one of the stages of grief. So let them have it. But come back when you've reached acceptance, and no one will judge you.

:)

LindyLou Who
YoWild

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Sat Jun 22, 2024 12:37 am
My boards are all white now but I went to visit a neighbor back and some of his are colored. :?:

Missy Angel
YoAficionado

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Registered: May 15, 2009
Posts: 3275

Sat Jun 22, 2024 2:32 am
Ok question as I haven't played for a while and I'm no longer familiar with ALL of the items or themes in the game.
But are there "for sale" signs or signs in the game that say " SALE" or "Tour Starts Here" yes?
Are there any number tiles to make prices? is there another way of naming things in game by using Hamsters or Goldfish?
There is isn't there, there are arrows and signs and ways around it for sales and events yes ?
Yes ok there are some boards that had photographic images on them but those images came from somewhere they didn't magic themselves onto a board if you had an image of your deceased dog/friend what ever put on a board which I did then you should still have that OG image somewhere as it had to be uploaded onto the board using a programe.
Yes there are some very talented people who actually hand drew onto boards using the available pallet of colors and brushes on the board, my Enterprise in my space tour and other space ships where HAND drawn onto the board.
Now you tell me which one I'm more annoyed over, the image of my dog who we lost in 2017 the image that I still have on my computer or the HAND drawn ones that took me hours because I did them myself.
Do I really care all that much tho no not really its a game with pixel art I never made any pixel coins over any whiteboards and I'm mature enough to know that its just a game and not RL and I still have the image of my dog!

Bookworm J
YoGroupie

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Sat Jun 22, 2024 2:39 am
LindyLou Who (126352247) wrote:My boards are all white now but I went to visit a neighbor back and some of his are colored. :?:


Was it whiteboards rather than paint boards? the whiteboards work - they are 3K in the Flowers and Gifts shop.

Cary Bradshaw
YoRookie

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Registered: Jul 13, 2010
Posts: 19

Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:29 am
I believe offenders should be punished and not the rest of the users. The board should come with a feature to report offenders, that way they will stay away from falling into doing wrong things. Thing about it. The entire Yoworld population I am sure will help you out taking care of these people so you could put them out.

RayanneZ YED
YoRegular

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Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:37 am
Good grief, this thread has done my head in.
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