Sounds fun!!

HOW AND WHERE DO I POST THE URL??? FOR TEH DECORATING CONTEST IM NOT REAL CLEAR ON THAT

You guys should consider a way to run the contests, so that people who have been banned from the forums, are still able to enter contests. I think that would be to BVG's advantage as well.

Where do people find out the theme!

Honestly...

I Love the idea of a Contest...
But I'm not too sure I want it connected to my Facebook.

Thanks

WikkdMistress (114548862) wrote:You guys should consider a way to run the contests, so that people who have been banned from the forums, are still able to enter contests. I think that would be to BVG's advantage as well.

I would assume being banned from the forums means they lose the privileges that go with being on the forums i.e being able to enter contests amongst other things.

Pizzda PTBxGold (125442000) wrote:Where do people find out the theme!

Theme is the 2nd Anniversary of YoWorld as described above. No specific items listed. Use what you want to create a room as to how you would celebrate the 2nd Anniversary.

Love this idea! Thanks!

I love contests! Thank you

Hey once i finish the room where do i post all of this.

Here is the link to my room. https://apps.facebook.com/playyoworld/? ... 8d557a#_=_

Thanks this was so fun to put together.

It's feeling like home around here again.

This is awesome!! Thank you!

Zoro (186404855) wrote:when will be the next clothing competition designer one

Yes

Sounds like a way to get ppl spending money every wk.

ButterCup (7655582) wrote:Honestly...

I Love the idea of a Contest...
But I'm not too sure I want it connected to my Facebook.

Thanks

We won't ever divulge information about your identity. All featured winners will be mentioned only by their in-game name!

Here are my critical toughts on the new format of the challege. First off i like the idea of more regularity in deco contests. I like that stimulating impulse and the look for creativity. It also keeps ideas fresh. However... i'm not so sure if a weekly basis is a good term...but i'll leave that one up to debate.

The evolution that makes me more doubtful is to see that the prize money as well as the number of winners is being dropped drastically. I see that there might indeed be also less restraining rules as to what is being used to create a room...; which is good, but the drop is of winners and such remains too drastic.
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In the last decorating contest i've seen some very amazing designs that didn't make the cut of 10, and sometimes to my own and other contestants astonishment.
However, when i looked better at the winners in contrast with those other magnificent designs, i noticed a strong reoccuring selection of designs or pics that incorporated 3 important elements on top of a good decorating skill: they all more or less showed a sense of Paris, 1920's and romance and all hinted toward a bit of realistic scenes.
So yes it's understandable that they had been selected.

But what i saw as well is that there were some superb decoration that were maybe a tad less Paris, a tad less explicit 1920's, had not so much romance or some even were not in a style that was entirely realistic and which hinted more at abstract forms of thought. And these all didn't get much aknowledgement, despite the originality, investments or skill.

In some ways you'd think that a great abtract design that embodies Paris and romance might have made the cut, especially when you look at the assignment and see how many more than 10 items from the Paris spring theme were used and how many of those were yc as well. But no joy... appearantly there was a need that the decoration also needed to be representing 1920's and more so in a bit of 'realistic' sense... all which was not explicitly stated in the original assignment.

I don't want to be harsh and i acknowledge that BVG has always been open about being a buisness. But i'd also want to acknowledge the efforts and investments of the decorators. It's sad to see that several decorators had invested in some superb rooms, and showcased a lot of originality, but then even didn't get acknowledged because of an assignment, agenda or specifications that either weren't clear or a little too complicated. It's also sad to see that there was one winner (i'm not going to name anybody) of which it is doubtful that it had the 10 required items from the theme incorporated in the room design. My astonishment was even bigger when i saw that the originality and skill of some of the winners was less rewarded and thus much more in the hands of a very subjective judgement than one would expect.

So yes... there is room for some improvement. Is a weekly challenge it? Idk... it's fresh, that's all i can say. But i do know that 1 winner is quite little. All the contestants will be playing for the honor of showing their designs, and if they are lucky enough to fit in the ideas of the invisible mind, they might even win. I get that the cost of 10 winners weekly is huge, even 3 big winners is huge at such a rate. And that is where i have my doubts on the rate of a weekly challenge.

I get that a weekly contest might help to generate a continuity and give people chances to enter more regularily and on it's own that is a good thing. But it's defenitely also nescesarry to cut the prize money when contests happen so fast because otherwise the cost of doing them would be immense. Yet, exactly the cutting of the prize money does present another difficulty. This means that the one winning participant will get a lot less than before, and in some cases now this won't be even a third of their investment in one room. And that is solely 'if' they win. The rest is all about honor and glory. Yet... you win or you're one of the other participants. There is no second or third place. Just room for one selected, who's lucky to become chosen as the example of the week.

As a comment on the way things function, it already seems clear to me that every week 1 winner seems simply too much to me. If you want this challenge to have some charm and honor in it seems to me that it would be much more interesting when you do it every 2 weeks with 60yc to win: 40yc for the 1st prize, 10yc + an Item from the 2nd and for the 3rd place an item. This way you atleast have a bit of competition and glory.
There is also a case to be made for the idea that maybe the prize money should vary according to the assignment, i mean if it is an assignment that is theme specific and it asks to work with the house of the theme and the house already costs 15yc then it's not so interesting to enter the competition when you didn't intend to buy the house for any other reason or if the theme doesn't deliver enough items to really fill the property, because in the case you do win already half your prize is tied up in the property, and likely you use much more yc to complete just your competition room , in which case you're nowhere near breaking even, an that is just 'if' you win.

Another issue is that of quality/cost/assignment/creativity. I know that it's hard to specify all of these, but i do think they do in several ways. I think it will be up to BVG to not always be to 'general' about their assignments. An open challenge is very good from time to time, but it think the assignments should be very clear in what they look for. It is possible to have open assignments that look for creativity around something (like the anniversary this time), but i do think the assignment should really indicate that it is looking for this clearly. Just as when it is looking to incorporate some thematic like'romance' in the past competition then it should be statiing clearly that it is looking for : Paris+1920's+romance+realism. This to make it much clearer for participants as to figure out what the contest entries need to incorporate. The benefit of this can also be that the following contest can indicate that it's looking for more abstract expressions. This all to take away possible confusions about what the basic conditions of the task are.

I like deco challenges, but that's exactly why i want them to stay attractive to enter. And to let participants play just for glory is really a bit short sighted. I mean if the prizes aren't that attractive, one would really ask why it's interesting to submit a design. Personally i (i'm sure several great designers are like this too) have enough fun decorating like that; if i'd want the recognition of the forums it's easy enough to post designs there. The real attraction of the contests is not just the theme or the challenge, nor the exposure on their own. It's naive to think that the lure of the possibility of some form of prize (read possibility of recuperating some expenses) isn't an important factor. Especially when you see that entering a contest migh make you buy some items that you otherwise wouldn't. And no i don't see this as being greedy this lure of an interesting prize is often stimulating for the better competitors to come out of the woodwork... otherwise why bother?Or why would the contest and it's results hold any relevance when a lot of the good competitors stay away from it?

I'd also want to make a last remark towards BVG and the decorating contests. The last year we have seen a few decorating contests. And we already know BVG loves us and we love them too, even though it migh be sometimes bizarre and confusing how we express that towards eachother. However, i'd like to stimulate the organisers of the decorating contest to be more creative in the way they challenge us. What i mean by this is that we have had Valentine, which is the feast of love. The Fall decorating contest was a nice pun with 'Fall in love', but now even the Paris contest was again about romance and love... I'm aware that paris is also known as the city of love, but... do you see the reoccuring pattern? I mean Paris is also a city of Art and Culture, and it definitely was in the 1920's, so yes you could also highlight that. But for future contests i'd mainly like to ask for more originality if you do want to add stuff like 'love and romance' as an extra into certain competitions, then i think it's only fair you would add other twists into them too. like for example 'mystery' or 'detective' or 'art' or 'food' .... etc etc. If that's not really about to happen, maybe beacause of that it would complicate too much... than please consider to not use love and romance every five seconds in contests either. THanks.

Wow, Ricky BamBam, you have mentioned so many things that I just thought but didn't bother to word. Agreed.
And to add, when I held my one & only contest here, "My Home in the Woods" viewtopic.php?f=3&t=111904, my prizes were: 1st place 40yocash, 2nd place 30yocash, 3rd place 20 yocash, plus everyone received thank you gifts for entering worth both yocash and yocoins. I might enter for the love as well as to inspire but for those hoping to get something in return for their hard work & investments, 30yocash, for 1st place & the only place? is very small. This is a Big Viking Games Contest!! a contest held by pretty much the gods of yoworld. & the prize is 30yocash?? & only for 1 person? I don't do contests for the money so this doesn't bother me personally, but out of love for my participants, I would acknowledge & reward as many as I see fit. Turned out all the designers who came out for my contest were amazing & invested a lot for their entries, so they were all rewarded accordingly. But that's just me. & this is just my input.

Ricky BamBam (4492518) wrote:Here are my critical toughts on the new format of the challege. First off i like the idea of more regularity in deco contests. I like that stimulating impulse and the look for creativity. It also keeps ideas fresh. However... i'm not so sure if a weekly basis is a good term...but i'll leave that one up to debate.

The evolution that makes me more doubtful is to see that the prize money as well as the number of winners is being dropped drastically. I see that there might indeed be also less restraining rules as to what is being used to create a room...; which is good, but the drop is of winners and such remains too drastic.
.
In the last decorating contest i've seen some very amazing designs that didn't make the cut of 10, and sometimes to my own and other contestants astonishment.
However, when i looked better at the winners in contrast with those other magnificent designs, i noticed a strong reoccuring selection of designs or pics that incorporated 3 important elements on top of a good decorating skill: they all more or less showed a sense of Paris, 1920's and romance and all hinted toward a bit of realistic scenes.
So yes it's understandable that they had been selected.

But what i saw as well is that there were some superb decoration that were maybe a tad less Paris, a tad less explicit 1920's, had not so much romance or some even were not in a style that was entirely realistic and which hinted more at abstract forms of thought. And these all didn't get much aknowledgement, despite the originality, investments or skill.

In some ways you'd think that a great abtract design that embodies Paris and romance might have made the cut, especially when you look at the assignment and see how many more than 10 items from the Paris spring theme were used and how many of those were yc as well. But no joy... appearantly there was a need that the decoration also needed to be representing 1920's and more so in a bit of 'realistic' sense... all which was not explicitly stated in the original assignment.

I don't want to be harsh and i acknowledge that BVG has always been open about being a buisness. But i'd also want to acknowledge the efforts and investments of the decorators. It's sad to see that several decorators had invested in some superb rooms, and showcased a lot of originality, but then even didn't get acknowledged because of an assignment, agenda or specifications that either weren't clear or a little too complicated. It's also sad to see that there was one winner (i'm not going to name anybody) of which it is doubtful that it had the 10 required items from the theme incorporated in the room design. My astonishment was even bigger when i saw that the originality and skill of some of the winners was less rewarded and thus much more in the hands of a very subjective judgement than one would expect.

So yes... there is room for some improvement. Is a weekly challenge it? Idk... it's fresh, that's all i can say. But i do know that 1 winner is quite little. All the contestants will be playing for the honor of showing their designs, and if they are lucky enough to fit in the ideas of the invisible mind, they might even win. I get that the cost of 10 winners weekly is huge, even 3 big winners is huge at such a rate. And that is where i have my doubts on the rate of a weekly challenge.

I get that a weekly contest might help to generate a continuity and give people chances to enter more regularily and on it's own that is a good thing. But it's defenitely also nescesarry to cut the prize money when contests happen so fast because otherwise the cost of doing them would be immense. Yet, exactly the cutting of the prize money does present another difficulty. This means that the one winning participant will get a lot less than before, and in some cases now this won't be even a third of their investment in one room. And that is solely 'if' they win. The rest is all about honor and glory. Yet... you win or you're one of the other participants. There is no second or third place. Just room for one selected, who's lucky to become chosen as the example of the week.

As a comment on the way things function, it already seems clear to me that every week 1 winner seems simply too much to me. If you want this challenge to have some charm and honor in it seems to me that it would be much more interesting when you do it every 2 weeks with 60yc to win: 40yc for the 1st prize, 10yc + an Item from the 2nd and for the 3rd place an item. This way you atleast have a bit of competition and glory.
There is also a case to be made for the idea that maybe the prize money should vary according to the assignment, i mean if it is an assignment that is theme specific and it asks to work with the house of the theme and the house already costs 15yc then it's not so interesting to enter the competition when you didn't intend to buy the house for any other reason or if the theme doesn't deliver enough items to really fill the property, because in the case you do win already half your prize is tied up in the property, and likely you use much more yc to complete just your competition room , in which case you're nowhere near breaking even, an that is just 'if' you win.

Another issue is that of quality/cost/assignment/creativity. I know that it's hard to specify all of these, but i do think they do in several ways. I think it will be up to BVG to not always be to 'general' about their assignments. An open challenge is very good from time to time, but it think the assignments should be very clear in what they look for. It is possible to have open assignments that look for creativity around something (like the anniversary this time), but i do think the assignment should really indicate that it is looking for this clearly. Just as when it is looking to incorporate some thematic like'romance' in the past competition then it should be statiing clearly that it is looking for : Paris+1920's+romance+realism. This to make it much clearer for participants as to figure out what the contest entries need to incorporate. The benefit of this can also be that the following contest can indicate that it's looking for more abstract expressions. This all to take away possible confusions about what the basic conditions of the task are.

I like deco challenges, but that's exactly why i want them to stay attractive to enter. And to let participants play just for glory is really a bit short sighted. I mean if the prizes aren't that attractive, one would really ask why it's interesting to submit a design. Personally i (i'm sure several great designers are like this too) have enough fun decorating like that; if i'd want the recognition of the forums it's easy enough to post designs there. The real attraction of the contests is not just the theme or the challenge, nor the exposure on their own. It's naive to think that the lure of the possibility of some form of prize (read possibility of recuperating some expenses) isn't an important factor. Especially when you see that entering a contest migh make you buy some items that you otherwise wouldn't. And no i don't see this as being greedy this lure of an interesting prize is often stimulating for the better competitors to come out of the woodwork... otherwise why bother?Or why would the contest and it's results hold any relevance when a lot of the good competitors stay away from it?

I'd also want to make a last remark towards BVG and the decorating contests. The last year we have seen a few decorating contests. And we already know BVG loves us and we love them too, even though it migh be sometimes bizarre and confusing how we express that towards eachother. However, i'd like to stimulate the organisers of the decorating contest to be more creative in the way they challenge us. What i mean by this is that we have had Valentine, which is the feast of love. The Fall decorating contest was a nice pun with 'Fall in love', but now even the Paris contest was again about romance and love... I'm aware that paris is also known as the city of love, but... do you see the reoccuring pattern? I mean Paris is also a city of Art and Culture, and it definitely was in the 1920's, so yes you could also highlight that. But for future contests i'd mainly like to ask for more originality if you do want to add stuff like 'love and romance' as an extra into certain competitions, then i think it's only fair you would add other twists into them too. like for example 'mystery' or 'detective' or 'art' or 'food' .... etc etc. If that's not really about to happen, maybe beacause of that it would complicate too much... than please consider to not use love and romance every five seconds in contests either. THanks.

Not sure if I wanna enter another contest . But maybe

Marius (136057376) wrote:Wow, Ricky BamBam, you have mentioned so many things that I just thought but didn't bother to word. Agreed.
And to add, when I held my one & only contest here, "My Home in the Woods" viewtopic.php?f=3&t=111904, my prizes were: 1st place 40yocash, 2nd place 30yocash, 3rd place 20 yocash, plus everyone received thank you gifts for entering worth both yocash and yocoins. I might enter for the love as well as to inspire but for those hoping to get something in return for their hard work & investments, 30yocash, for 1st place & the only place? is very small. This is a Big Viking Games Contest!! a contest held by pretty much the gods of yoworld. & the prize is 30yocash?? & only for 1 person? I don't do contests for the money so this doesn't bother me personally, but out of love for my participants, I would acknowledge & reward as many as I see fit. Turned out all the designers who came out for my contest were amazing & invested a lot for their entries, so they were all rewarded accordingly. But that's just me. & this is just my input.

Despite my reflection i also see the side that a regular contest means regular yc donations, so from BVG's side i understand that they look for a balance. But i do think there is a better deal to be worked on. 1 winner is a sad result and 30 yc is low. There is also no mention of any coin rewards or a special item to gain for any 2nd or 3rd places. To me it's a pretty raw deal and it makes that the glory of winning such a contest actually fades. The question to ask is: why would anyone want to participate if their chances on winning are so slim and the prices are stripped of any prestige or means of refunding a bit of your efforts? It becomes just less special and thus winning a contest makes doesn't hold any glory. And in that case you're better off decorating according to your own rules, wishes, creativity and budget. And in case that you want recognition for your work, you just slap some photos of your decorations in the photo section of the forum. The result is also basicly the same: you have lost a wad of coins and yc (because with one winner of 30yc, most participants won't win unless they're very lucky) in your creative exploits. Sad to say that the only real difference is that you can totally do what you want, are probably more happy and don't have to mind any hassle because of any hopes. And on top of it you can do it according to your own budget.