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Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:04 pm
ItzHim (2905495) wrote:i believe its time to move forward BVG !
enough already of old stuff, unreleased or whatever ...... its new themes we require, new homes & themes & new cool collectables from your team .......... roll em out :D


and new beginnings!!!

Nyx
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:05 pm
Pete (2679242) wrote:Well one thing is for certain, that clarification by John didn't put this to bed at all.


Nope, not really. They could have easily specifically named it as an item either way, and it wasn't. :?

Honestly all this angst over a protecting the pixel wealth of a religious icon is a bit disturbing.

Its like what the item actually is and symbolizes, has been lost in the rush to protect its elite status or how much someone can get for its sale. Its all very Indiana Jones, lol. Except with the holy grail or ark of the covenant. Interesting.

Pete
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:05 pm
Kenzie (118529394) wrote:Using that theory then all Easter, Christmas, Jewish items should've been removed as well. Those are all religious.


Theoretically they should have, but Z was always about the money. They did every horrible thing in the book to get more money and that included getting their user base to install malware toolbars, which Z then laughed about. Z created this re-release, unreleased, short term accidental release re-release situation that we are faced with.
Z constantly broke their policies while chasing the greenback.

CountryDude89
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:06 pm
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:07 pm
I really hope no more items will be pulled due to complaints by players, ever. Don't like it, dont buy. Offended? cover your eyes faint hearts.
As far as re-releases go...I never understood why the 08 nurse needed to be (as an example). You had '10 version and Heroes theme and any number of items to make a custom if you wanted to be a nurse. Or devil....or Yorothy...or fireman...astro etc.
Z gave options but the allure of the old is too strong for some to look outside the box.
I love me some customs <3

Flatch Ulater
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:09 pm
YBL BeeBee ill WTO (103384668) wrote:
Flatch Ulater MYP (13247207) wrote:
YBL BeeBee ill WTO (103384668) wrote:An accident is something unavoidable. A mistake is something done consciously, intentionally, that doesn't seem like it will lead to trouble until after the fact.



what?? ... what??? lol.. what????


sorry you fail to see the difference here, maybe you ought to think about if for a minute.


I still think they should release the celtic cross... :)

Paula FruitTingles
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:09 pm
Kenzie (118529394) wrote:


Using that theory then all Easter, Christmas, Jewish items should've been removed as well. Those are all religious.[/quote]

Santa and the Easter bunny, presents, Xmas trees, choc eggs, garlands,flashing lights etc etc etc.....are not religious items. ;)

Anthony SpaceTime
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:09 pm
YBL BeeBee ill WTO (103384668) wrote:
Flatch Ulater MYP (13247207) wrote:
Anthony (102235402) wrote:How can people possibly say this when no one really knows the truth? So what if items lasted longer then a few hours in stores? What if it took Zynga more than a few hours to realize that they accidentally released it? Take a look at Gary's pants, they were accidental, yet they were in stores for a full weekend, does that mean they were official? No, the developers themselves said it was accidental! This is why I say, if it was released for an alarmingly short time, then it could fall into any of the two categories, since Zynga themselves never tagged the items as accidental/official.

So once again, no one knows, we will have to wait and see.


exactly


When an item is released within a category in a store, it has been officially released...PERIOD. It was not an accident....was it a mistake...maybe....but it wasn't an accident.

An accident is something unavoidable. A mistake is something done consciously, intentionally, that doesn't seem like it will lead to trouble until after the fact.


Accidents can be avoided, with proper preparation. For example, if I fall on the job, it was not a mistake, it was an accident that could have been avoided.

If Zynga did not properly prepare for a release, and just released it, they could of released unintentional stuff in into it. Since your definition of mistake is that it was done intentionally, then it must not have been that.

Kenzie
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:09 pm
Pete (2679242) wrote:
Kenzie (118529394) wrote:Using that theory then all Easter, Christmas, Jewish items should've been removed as well. Those are all religious.


Theoretically they should have, but Z was always about the money. They did every horrible thing in the book to get more money and that included getting their user base to install malware toolbars, which Z then laughed about. Z created this re-release, unreleased, short term accidental release re-release situation that we are faced with.
Z constantly broke their policies while chasing the greenback.


Yes they did. Though I think the most recent re-releases was a failed attempt to control the hacking of items. During the first re-release in 2010, I think, they were definitely chasing the dollars.

Willow
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:10 pm
Casper Boricua (159942967) wrote:The thing is though that no matter what they say, people will keep asking for them. You know what? I am amazed. Amazed because even though I had quit the game when Zynga was around, I was here when BVG opened and this was different. People were extremely grateful with BVG and some even treated them as idols to be honest. I am against treating anybody as an idol but some recognition is not bad after all they did. Now we're moving torwads the game that Zynga had. We ask and ask and ask and nothing is enough. "I am happy if they just release WGN hair" no you're not, you'll always want more. They have done a lot already, let's try to be patient! We know how re-releases drove players away from Zynga but we didn't learn a thing. I am sure that the re-release of some items will drive lots of players away, same as I was sure that it was Zynga's end when lots of people didn't seem to notice. Enough is enough, friends. Let's have fun in the game the good old way and keep the little utopia that we had when this all started.


Well said Casper :)

Cynna
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:10 pm
Ok sad thing is Greg and the team has already stated several times that 08s will not be re released and nor will collectibles. But for some unknown reason the people who keep begging still have their hopes up. Now as far as Celtic Crosses. If it was an un released item who knows if the team if gonna be bringing it back. Yes I would love to have one but then again I would feel kind of bad for the ones who spent millions and millions for one. If they do bring it out or even if they don't tomorrow is always another day and everyone will live. The only way people are gonna quit begging for it to come out is if it does. Even if it does come out there is always gonna be some one still begging because they missed the release.So in the end it is still gonna be the same.

Paula FruitTingles
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:10 pm
Nyx (12531218) wrote:
Pete (2679242) wrote:Well one thing is for certain, that clarification by John didn't put this to bed at all.


Nope, not really. They could have easily specifically named it as an item either way, and it wasn't. :?

Honestly all this angst over a protecting the pixel wealth of a religious icon is a bit disturbing.

Its like what the item actually is and symbolizes, has been lost in the rush to protect its elite status or how much someone can get for its sale. Its all very Indiana Jones, lol. Except with the holy grail or ark of the covenant. Interesting.

:lol:

Kenzie
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:12 pm
Paula (127963301) wrote:
Santa and the Easter bunny, presents, Xmas trees, choc eggs, garlands,flashing lights etc etc etc.....are not religious items. ;)


They represent a religious holiday....therefore they're religious.

Willow
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:14 pm
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Pete
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:14 pm
Kenzie (118529394) wrote:Yes they did. Though I think the most recent re-releases was a failed attempt to control the hacking of items. During the first re-release in 2010, I think, they were definitely chasing the dollars.


Failed attempt is subjective. I call it a resounding success that made the hackers and the plutocrats aware that they would no longer be able to lord their ill gotten gains over the poor any longer.

Adeline
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:16 pm
I suggest everyone who wants to debate what is a religious holiday start a different thread to do so on. I also suggest that some of you google or whatever you do to increase your knowledge and find out when "Christmas" became what is is like now. You might be surprised.
This thread served its purposed. The Vikings answered the question posed to them. Don't let that answer get lost in all this speculation.

LadyJane1554
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:16 pm
CountryDude89 (11877186) wrote:Image

Can I have some of that??!! :lol:

Adeline
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:16 pm
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Viking John wrote:Hey everyone!

As it's been stated a few times in this thread quoting Gary's interview with YoRehab, if any item has officially been released by Zynga in the past we will not be putting it back into the game. Accidental releases such as the Menorah Hat are different, as they weren't an official release.

All of your 08 and 09 costumes, retro specks, and all the other valuable items that have been released before are not going to be re-released. As Gary mentioned, we understand the value of rare items and want to keep it that way.

If you see people posting 'rumor' threads about releases coming tomorrow or next week, if it's not a post from one of us then it's exactly that, a rumor!

I hope this helps clear things up for everyone!

CountryDude89
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:17 pm
LadyJane1554 (102403979) wrote:
CountryDude89 (11877186) wrote:Image

Can I have some of that??!! :lol:

sure! sharing is caring my dear! ;)

Kenzie
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:17 pm
Pete (2679242) wrote:
Kenzie (118529394) wrote:Yes they did. Though I think the most recent re-releases was a failed attempt to control the hacking of items. During the first re-release in 2010, I think, they were definitely chasing the dollars.


Failed attempt is subjective. I call it a resounding success that made the hackers and the plutocrats aware that they would no longer be able to lord their ill gotten gains over the poor any longer.


LOL...but they just found other things to hack. That's why I said failed attempt.
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