Robot (185180932) wrote:Bolded. Those are your opinions, for one. Not truths for all, and not true in general. What gives you the proof/idea that themes were never supposed to be removed? ? ? Where on earth was that ever true. lol. and You seem to think the ones who get upset are the ones who want to get rich. I would not see it wise to generalize people like that, because that is certainly not true for everybody and it is a bit insulting to hear that you think anybody who doesn't agree with you some how has some kind of bad trait. Not cool Amber. and flat out not true for all. :/ I have already said that not everybody wants to decorate for an aesthetic/cosmetic purpose, hence why people would rather keep the items they earned the way they are! Not hard to understand.

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:

Don Logan (148000103) wrote:

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:

This is the exact reason why some of us were saying that it may have been a premature statement, and Gary was only reiterating what Greg originally said. At the time when both Gary and Greg made these statement you didn't hear anyone standing up for the benefits for having all themes opened except for holiday themes and collectibles. They were only trying to make the ones screaming the most happy. Well at least it seems that way. People as well as companies can change their decisions on things. This whole argument has been stated earlier in the thread and in other threads related to this one. I just hope that BVG realizes that it would be more beneficial to them and most of us(I'm not restating my argument for this. It can be found in this thread).

If BVG decided to randomly re-release everything, they would lose a lot of accountability, IMHO.

No not really! It's called they realized that there were more pros to opening them up than cons. Greg originally said he couldn't seem himself doing it, but he never said he absolutely would not. I'm sorry but until I see Garys exact writing where he stated they absolutely will not be put back into the game and that it was coming straight from Greg, and not yorehabs interpretation on how they understood Gary's response to the question, then I still be have hope that Greg will see the light.

Don Logan (148000103) wrote:

Robot (185180932) wrote:Bolded. Those are your opinions, for one. Not truths for all, and not true in general. What gives you the proof/idea that themes were never supposed to be removed? ? ? Where on earth was that ever true. lol. and You seem to think the ones who get upset are the ones who want to get rich. I would not see it wise to generalize people like that, because that is certainly not true for everybody and it is a bit insulting to hear that you think anybody who doesn't agree with you some how has some kind of bad trait. Not cool Amber. and flat out not true for all. :/ I have already said that not everybody wants to decorate for an aesthetic/cosmetic purpose, hence why people would rather keep the items they earned the way they are! Not hard to understand.

Two thumbs up for this!

Robot (185180932) wrote:
Bolded. Those are your opinions, for one. Not truths for all, and not true in general. What gives you the proof/idea that themes were never supposed to be removed? ? ? Where on earth was that ever true. lol. and You seem to think the ones who get upset are the ones who want to get rich. I would not see it wise to generalize people like that, because that is certainly not true for everybody and it is a bit insulting to hear that you think anybody who doesn't agree with you some how has some kind of bad trait. Not cool Amber. and flat out not true for all. :/ I have already said that not everybody wants to decorate for an aesthetic/cosmetic purpose, hence why people would rather keep the items they earned the way they are! Not hard to understand.

CountryDude89 (11877186) wrote:i never cared about an items Value, i just go for the things that i like, regardless. it be more fun if it was hard to get.... makes it more worthwhile. The treasure hunter in me likes the hunt.

Willow (13350872) wrote:
Greg already did see the light. It's other people that can't seem to see it.

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:Actually, I absolutely hate, I mean HATE having to spend days looking for something to help me decorate one of my rooms. Before all of this mess started, trading went just fine. People still went to sales, and still did trades. Nothing would change with that. That was in place since the game started. Also, collectors don't always have to just collect collectibles but to insist on getting mad over losing money on something that you took the risk on because it was never a collectible in the first place is crazy. There are not many collectors that I know get rid of the collections that they have worked hard at. Some may, but not many.

CountryDude89 (11877186) wrote:i never cared about an items Value, i just go for the things that i like, regardless. it be more fun if it was hard to get.... makes it more worthwhile. The treasure hunter in me likes the hunt.

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:

Willow (13350872) wrote:
Greg already did see the light. It's other people that can't seem to see it.

Apparently you have not read Gregs exact words. Greg is the owner not Gary. Also there are loop holes in Garys statement as well as Gregs. Greg said he couldn't see rereleasing them and Gary made the comment before hearing the pros to having them open.

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:

CountryDude89 (11877186) wrote:i never cared about an items Value, i just go for the things that i like, regardless. it be more fun if it was hard to get.... makes it more worthwhile. The treasure hunter in me likes the hunt.

Well then hunt through the furniture store to find it. Kind of like antique stores.

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:

Robot (185180932) wrote:
Bolded. Those are your opinions, for one. Not truths for all, and not true in general. What gives you the proof/idea that themes were never supposed to be removed? ? ? Where on earth was that ever true. lol. and You seem to think the ones who get upset are the ones who want to get rich. I would not see it wise to generalize people like that, because that is certainly not true for everybody and it is a bit insulting to hear that you think anybody who doesn't agree with you some how has some kind of bad trait. Not cool Amber. and flat out not true for all. :/ I have already said that not everybody wants to decorate for an aesthetic/cosmetic purpose, hence why people would rather keep the items they earned the way they are! Not hard to understand.

Well the only arguments I see on your side of the debate is that people would lose money, lose trust which is ridiculous seeing as right now BVG is losing money, and are trying to turn items which are not collectibles into collectibles and mad because they decided to take the risk and may have to pay for it.

Autumn Glory (105171200) wrote:

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:Actually, I absolutely hate, I mean HATE having to spend days looking for something to help me decorate one of my rooms. Before all of this mess started, trading went just fine. People still went to sales, and still did trades. Nothing would change with that. That was in place since the game started. Also, collectors don't always have to just collect collectibles but to insist on getting mad over losing money on something that you took the risk on because it was never a collectible in the first place is crazy. There are not many collectors that I know get rid of the collections that they have worked hard at. Some may, but not many.

Fair enough, but I don't hate the hunt. That just goes to show that we all play differently. Trading has always gone fine because there has always been themes that were closed out, which gave people things to look for. I am a decorator. I also collect things. I am not sure where you are getting that I said anything about being mad about losing money. I am not upset about anything at all. I was simply expressing a different style of game play.

As far as taking risks, before last summer, other than a few 08 costumes being re-released in 09, when did they put themes back in the store? It is how the game was always played. I saw you want all themes opened up except holidays, well then, as someone whose favorite theme in this game is Halloween (all years) how would that be fair to me, that everyone else gets their favorite theme back, but I don't?

BVG has stated that if people had a chance to buy a theme that was officially released, they would not be re-releasing them. If they were to go back on that statement, I would be upset. Not over the pixels, mind you, but because it would be deja vu all over again. Trust matters. While BVG might not run their business on feelings of the players, from what I have seen so far, integrity matters to them.

As I have said before, I am but one player. But to me, honesty matters. If they go back on what they have stated, I will not spend a dime to support this game ever. I have been down that road of shadiness with Z and I have no intentions to travel down it again. I am fairly certain that BVG knew people would not immediately be opening their wallets without new content. I am sure that once items are released, they will see financial gain. Until then, they could release more unreleased items, people obviously love them. I am sure they also have more Snowy Princess coming and a new 3D designer starting.......Just my opinions and point of view from my perspective......

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:

Don Logan (148000103) wrote:

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:

This is the exact reason why some of us were saying that it may have been a premature statement, and Gary was only reiterating what Greg originally said. At the time when both Gary and Greg made these statement you didn't hear anyone standing up for the benefits for having all themes opened except for holiday themes and collectibles. They were only trying to make the ones screaming the most happy. Well at least it seems that way. People as well as companies can change their decisions on things. This whole argument has been stated earlier in the thread and in other threads related to this one. I just hope that BVG realizes that it would be more beneficial to them and most of us(I'm not restating my argument for this. It can be found in this thread).

If BVG decided to randomly re-release everything, they would lose a lot of accountability, IMHO.

No not really! It's called they realized that there were more pros to opening them up than cons. Greg originally said he couldn't seem himself doing it, but he never said he absolutely would not. I'm sorry but until I see Garys exact writing where he stated they absolutely will not be put back into the game and that it was coming straight from Greg, and not yorehabs interpretation on how they understood Gary's response to the question, then I still be have hope that Greg will see the light.

KJ (165011506) wrote:

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:

Robot (185180932) wrote:
Bolded. Those are your opinions, for one. Not truths for all, and not true in general. What gives you the proof/idea that themes were never supposed to be removed? ? ? Where on earth was that ever true. lol. and You seem to think the ones who get upset are the ones who want to get rich. I would not see it wise to generalize people like that, because that is certainly not true for everybody and it is a bit insulting to hear that you think anybody who doesn't agree with you some how has some kind of bad trait. Not cool Amber. and flat out not true for all. :/ I have already said that not everybody wants to decorate for an aesthetic/cosmetic purpose, hence why people would rather keep the items they earned the way they are! Not hard to understand.

Well the only arguments I see on your side of the debate is that people would lose money, lose trust which is ridiculous seeing as right now BVG is losing money, and are trying to turn items which are not collectibles into collectibles and mad because they decided to take the risk and may have to pay for it.

And I will say that it is very probable that Zynga intentionally drove their paying customers away in droves by re-releasing in order to substantiate shutting the game down due to declining game play. As a YoCash dealer I can say that out of respect for anyone else who has spent real money dealing YoCash in order to make coins to buy old items, that I would not spend a single YoCash for the purpose of buying items for people in any re-release and I am pretty sure many dealers would feel the same. I simply would not spend my own money to help people obtain things for a fraction of what I had to save to pay for them.

KJ (165011506) wrote:

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:

Robot (185180932) wrote:
Bolded. Those are your opinions, for one. Not truths for all, and not true in general. What gives you the proof/idea that themes were never supposed to be removed? ? ? Where on earth was that ever true. lol. and You seem to think the ones who get upset are the ones who want to get rich. I would not see it wise to generalize people like that, because that is certainly not true for everybody and it is a bit insulting to hear that you think anybody who doesn't agree with you some how has some kind of bad trait. Not cool Amber. and flat out not true for all. :/ I have already said that not everybody wants to decorate for an aesthetic/cosmetic purpose, hence why people would rather keep the items they earned the way they are! Not hard to understand.

Well the only arguments I see on your side of the debate is that people would lose money, lose trust which is ridiculous seeing as right now BVG is losing money, and are trying to turn items which are not collectibles into collectibles and mad because they decided to take the risk and may have to pay for it.

And I will say that it is very probable that Zynga intentionally drove their paying customers away in droves by re-releasing in order to substantiate shutting the game down due to declining game play. As a YoCash dealer I can say that out of respect for anyone else who has spent real money dealing YoCash in order to make coins to buy old items, that I would not spend a single YoCash for the purpose of buying items for people in any re-release and I am pretty sure many dealers would feel the same. I simply would not spend my own money to help people obtain things for a fraction of what I had to save to pay for them.