Chach (120138544) wrote:

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:Oh I actually thought it was released as a collectible... hmm I do have one though. It was released for a week though and wasn't taken out because of complaining. I'm not sure why it was taken out then.

I don't know why they took it out either, I'm not sure we ever even got an answer. It just vanished for no apparent reason lol

From what I remember...

It was in store and taken out because it didn't work. Z fixed it and put it back in store and then it was removed again without warning.

I have been told when it was put back in store, it was put back in on a timer. But I don't remember said timer.

I agree the item was only released for a few minutes, and a lot of people were not given a fair shot at it because of that. If it had been a few days I would say it was officially released.. but I cannot agree because of the time factor involved.

Nifty niffler (7573493) wrote:yes - the cross was available for a very very short time and pulled without warning. I didn't even have a chance to see or buy the item as I was asleep (I live in England) when the whole thing happened - though I was a very active player at the time.
This was not an item that everyone had a chance to buy and therefore I feel it cannot be compared to any item that was pulled with a timer.

Sooz (112570178) wrote:

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:Oh I actually thought it was released as a collectible... hmm I do have one though. It was released for a week though and wasn't taken out because of complaining. I'm not sure why it was taken out then.

It was on a timer...

Was it? I don't even remember. I had already bought one when they first came out so I guess that's why I never paid attention to it.

Autumn Glory (105171200) wrote:Okay, but can you not appreciate how the changing language would be a cause for concern? There was a point where they said, If it was an "official release" it would not be re-released. There were no vague time frames attached to that.....I just think that no matter the amount of time they released the item, it was a release, it should be off the table to come back.

Now people are saying, well I didn't have time to get it and I want it. To those people I say, okay well save up and work toward that goal. The other option here is why couldn't BVG make a new cross? I don't think it is so much about it being a cross for some as it is about how much the cross is worth.

There is a difference between items that everyone had the same access to and items that were available for 5 minutes and pulled and were luck of the draw.

For what it's worth, I'll mention again...I'm a long time CC owner and I don't mind this release. I knew it was coming pretty much.

The only reason I didn't turf mine is because on the longshot they weren't going to release it. Even though I was 99% sure they would, I could not risk it because it tied my room together. I evaluated it in my head: Lose 15-20m coins in value or be assured the room would forever be intact. I chose the room. I have no regrets and no hard feelings.

Flatch Ulater MYP (13247207) wrote:http://news.yorehab.com/yofeatures/excl ... stevenson/

here is the rehab interview.. where it's stated..about items being available to all players ...

3. Will old items and collectibles be re-released?
Gary: If the item was officially released previously and everyone had the opportunity to get it, then no. We know item rarity and value is very important to the players, and we respect that.

Chach (120138544) wrote:

Sooz (112570178) wrote:

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:Oh I actually thought it was released as a collectible... hmm I do have one though. It was released for a week though and wasn't taken out because of complaining. I'm not sure why it was taken out then.

It was on a timer...

Was it? I don't even remember. I had already bought one when they first came out so I guess that's why I never paid attention to it.

I did not get one the first time and I was pissed... I sure got one when it was on the timer

I do not think so, I think it was the time issue involved with this piece and not the money.. to many items they can release for the same amount or even just half as much and make a nice profit off of. Greg stated a bit ago the time issue of this piece was a big factor in whether it was considered an official release. Not everyone even knew it had even been in the store when it was removed.. to be honest if they were to do that now we would scream about the unfairness of it and demand it put back in store for days not minutes.

Mutton Bushroom (117686344) wrote:After Zynga, I learn not to trust game companies. I don't hate Zynga though.

With a big loan hanging over their head, wonder if this was a deciding factor for Bvg to do what they do. I lost a lot of item value also in the past but have come to personally accept it that words can change or interpreted differently to suit business needs. Who knows if my cat clock, chicken tub and other stuff comes out again. When I bought them that time was cause I liked the look, never thought it would rise in value. Maybe I'll get few more and put in more houses.

Rain (110294179) wrote:

Autumn Glory (105171200) wrote:Okay, but can you not appreciate how the changing language would be a cause for concern? There was a point where they said, If it was an "official release" it would not be re-released. There were no vague time frames attached to that.....I just think that no matter the amount of time they released the item, it was a release, it should be off the table to come back.

Now people are saying, well I didn't have time to get it and I want it. To those people I say, okay well save up and work toward that goal. The other option here is why couldn't BVG make a new cross? I don't think it is so much about it being a cross for some as it is about how much the cross is worth.

There is a difference between items that everyone had the same access to and items that were available for 5 minutes and pulled and were luck of the draw.

For what it's worth, I'll mention again...I'm a long time CC owner and I don't mind this release. I knew it was coming pretty much.

The only reason I didn't turf mine is because on the longshot they weren't going to release it. Even though I was 99% sure they would, I could not risk it because it tied my room together. I evaluated it in my head: Lose 15-20m coins in value or be assured the room would forever be intact. I chose the room. I have no regrets and no hard feelings.

Okay, my question is who said it was in the store for 5 minutes........ Did BVG just take players word for that? My point is, if the release was questionable in any way, why not just make a new cross?

Sooz (112570178) wrote:

Chach (120138544) wrote:

Sooz (112570178) wrote:
It was on a timer...

Was it? I don't even remember. I had already bought one when they first came out so I guess that's why I never paid attention to it.

I did not get one the first time and I was pissed... I sure got one when it was on the timer [/quote]

LOL! Yes, I would have done the same

Grrr.....I hate this 3 quote thing :/

It's also interesting to see how the "history" of the Celtic Cross is being revised tonight to support arguments against releasing it.

Old story: It was a short time release of a few minutes before being pulled from store.

New story (that I have never heard before tonight): It was a short time release of a few minutes before being pulled from store, but was then put back in store on an official timer, thus making it fairly available to all players.

I'm not really buying the New Story. Sorry.

I gave away almost all my wearables when Z____ said they were shutting the game down. Well, we survived! When we moved to BVG, a friend was kind enough to return my Ninja costume to me. It didn't make a whole lot of sense to me to have just one costume when I knew i could never afford to buy back what I had given away. So, I put the Ninja in the AH with an initial bid of 1 mil, no buyout, 24 hr premium auction. I didn't know what to expect. Anyway, I wound up with 18 mil for it. A few nights later i saw an event offering the Cross at 18 mil. I had coveted that item since the start, so i spent the bulk of my little fortune on it. I was in love with the game again! lol

So, it comes out for 29 yo...no Ninja, a virtually "worthless" Cross. Broke. Not a good feeling.

Rain (110294179) wrote:It's also interesting to see how the "history" of the Celtic Cross is being revised tonight to support arguments against releasing it.

Old story: It was a short time release of a few minutes before being pulled from store.

New story (that I have never heard before tonight): It was a short time release of a few minutes before being pulled from store, but was then put back in store on an official timer, thus making it fairly available to all players.

I'm not really buying the New Story. Sorry.

They are talking about the cat clock from the 50's theme........not the cross.

Rain (110294179) wrote:It's also interesting to see how the "history" of the Celtic Cross is being revised tonight to support arguments against releasing it.

Old story: It was a short time release of a few minutes before being pulled from store.

New story (that I have never heard before tonight): It was a short time release of a few minutes before being pulled from store, but was then put back in store on an official timer, thus making it fairly available to all players.

I'm not really buying the New Story. Sorry.

We are talking about the cat clock, not the cross lol

Autumn Glory (105171200) wrote:

Rain (110294179) wrote:It's also interesting to see how the "history" of the Celtic Cross is being revised tonight to support arguments against releasing it.

Old story: It was a short time release of a few minutes before being pulled from store.

New story (that I have never heard before tonight): It was a short time release of a few minutes before being pulled from store, but was then put back in store on an official timer, thus making it fairly available to all players.

I'm not really buying the New Story. Sorry.

They are talking about the cat clock from the 50's theme........not the cross.

My twin! Separated at birth, always thinking the same thing

Autumn Glory (105171200) wrote:They are talking about the cat clock from the 50's theme........not the cross.

The cat clock never came back on a timer either. It was pulled and that was it.

I don't think BVG is intentionally vague, but just seeing the progression of the statements on rereleases/release it is very much open interpretation. Before today, it wasn't very clear to me from anything that I read that an item that was officially in stores regardless of time would be rereleased. Basically saying if it was in stores then it's considered to have been fair for everyone to get unlike the unreleased items that made their way in the game. Fairness hinging on the fact that it was simply in the store. So this is all about semantics and interpretations. It wasn't clear until the statement was made in the thread today that "time" would be a consideration for rerelease.

Chach (120138544) wrote:

Autumn Glory (105171200) wrote:

Rain (110294179) wrote:It's also interesting to see how the "history" of the Celtic Cross is being revised tonight to support arguments against releasing it.

Old story: It was a short time release of a few minutes before being pulled from store.

New story (that I have never heard before tonight): It was a short time release of a few minutes before being pulled from store, but was then put back in store on an official timer, thus making it fairly available to all players.

I'm not really buying the New Story. Sorry.

They are talking about the cat clock from the 50's theme........not the cross.

My twin! Separated at birth, always thinking the same thing

<3 always!

If they start bending the rules or cutting corners then they may as well just give in and give everyone what they want. Me me me. The end result is they angered some strong supporters with their poor wording and fuzzy logic. They all dread that feeling of here it comes again.

Sooz (112570178) wrote:

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:Oh I actually thought it was released as a collectible... hmm I do have one though. It was released for a week though and wasn't taken out because of complaining. I'm not sure why it was taken out then.

It was on a timer...

It was taken out because according to Zynga there was an issue with the code and the wagging of the tail. They said their techs would work on it and put it back. It never came back.

I have no idea if that's the truth, but that was their official statement.

Rain (110294179) wrote:It's also interesting to see how the "history" of the Celtic Cross is being revised tonight to support arguments against releasing it.

Old story: It was a short time release of a few minutes before being pulled from store.

New story (that I have never heard before tonight): It was a short time release of a few minutes before being pulled from store, but was then put back in store on an official timer, thus making it fairly available to all players.

I'm not really buying the New Story. Sorry.

We're talking about the cat clock being put back in the store on a timer. Don't be so quick to snark up.