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You can't prove a negative, however you can prove a possitive. If it was in stores there would/should be proof of that. Item being tagged non refundable and show up with the 09 items would be proof. That is the proof that would resolve the issue, but it hasn't been provided by all those who say it was released.[/quote]Meleagris (122131215) wrote: (13350872)"]Pete (2679242) wrote:Tomasu (185771478) wrote:I want to talk about the unreleased items being released into the game now, and the future items being released into the game. Also a couple questions. Personally, I like the idea of all of the hacked items/unreleased items zynga never put in the stores to be now put in stores. Alot of people envy these items such as duty belt and lime jeans/white jeans. But there is a ton of questions and scared players upon further releases. I see many people selling their retros,old bows, menorah hats, wgn hairs, rex bandanas, bling tees, etc because they are frightened they will be released. What i think personally is keep all of the Collectible items such as Pink and Blue Retro Specks and Mafia Bat. But i also think Big Viking Games should release EVERY SINGLE hacked item into the game such as the wonka costume, hulk costume, wgn hair, rex bandana and the list goes on. Not only do these items look pretty cool, alot of people have been wanting these items and since they are considered Hacked or Unreleased, I would love to see them in the stores in the next few days. This is just my OPINION.I do have a couple of questions that i would very much like Big Viking Games to answer but your view on the questions is greatly appreciated.
Question 1:What all do you think they should release, and what do you think they should NOT release?
Question 2:Why did Big Viking Games release only a select group of unreleased items, instead of waiting and completing a list of the items and releasing them all at once?
Lastly, i set up a poll to see your view on the current Unreleased Items Situation. Please take the survey and try to answer my questions and tell me how you feel on the unreleased items now being released. Thanks
Question 1: Everything should be fair game to release again except collectibles of any sort. If it was bought from the collectible category, not available for re-release.
Question 2: They are scared of alienating players. They probably wanted to re-release a lot more but got cold feet when it came time to do it. Depending on the data they pull from this unreleased release we might get to see more. I hope so, the Menorah hat had should be taken away as an elite item. It entered the game though dubious means and should be made available to all instead of only to people with shady connections.
Prove it
MASSACRE (185308865) wrote:Pete (2679242) wrote:Question 2: They are scared of alienating players. They probably wanted to re-release a lot more but got cold feet when it came time to do it. Depending on the data they pull from this unreleased release we might get to see more. I hope so, the Menorah hat had should be taken away as an elite item. It entered the game though dubious means and should be made available to all instead of only to people with shady connections.
What you mean by this?
Pete (2679242) wrote:MASSACRE (185308865) wrote:Pete (2679242) wrote:Question 2: They are scared of alienating players. They probably wanted to re-release a lot more but got cold feet when it came time to do it. Depending on the data they pull from this unreleased release we might get to see more. I hope so, the Menorah hat had should be taken away as an elite item. It entered the game though dubious means and should be made available to all instead of only to people with shady connections.
What you mean by this?
The menorah hat was never released in game. It was sourced from outside the game. A very small amount of hats made it into the game through the outside source. There is no way that all the menorah hats currently ingame came from the original exploit. Most hats entered the game from players scamming support to get their grubby paws onto this items, unreleased items being sold in the AH, the item incident where the game was hacked and everyone had a menorah hat, the free gift scandal (run by hackers). The majority of players who own a menorah hat knew what they where buying. Shady people buying shady items. Birds of a feather flock together.
There is nothing above board when it comes to this hat.
A number of people have said they had an original but when examined it's been found not to be the case. I would think after all these years if there were an original released into game it would have been seen. So even if it isn't proven either way ... there is no evidence that it was released into game making it more reasonable to believe it wasn't released into game, especially since this debate has gone on for years and never has anyone come forward with proof of an original that was bought from game/yv.com.Willow (13350872) wrote:And as few of them that were suppose to be released into game. That also is hard to come by. So either way no one knows. Unless as I said...someone has an original. Who knows anyone that might of had one when it was released may not even still play. So the fact is the only ones that would know the truth are zynga and bvg.
Meleagris (122131215) wrote:A number of people have said they had an original but when examined it's been found not to be the case. I would think after all these years if there were an original released into game it would have been seen. So even if it isn't proven either way ... there is no evidence that it was released into game making it more reasonable to believe it wasn't released into game, especially since this debate has gone on for years and never has anyone come forward with proof of an original that was bought from game/yv.com.Willow (13350872) wrote:And as few of them that were suppose to be released into game. That also is hard to come by. So either way no one knows. Unless as I said...someone has an original. Who knows anyone that might of had one when it was released may not even still play. So the fact is the only ones that would know the truth are zynga and bvg.
xXllChIpPyZllXx (185710657) wrote:Hold up. Wonka & hulk costume o.O anyone have any pictures they could share of them.... and i do totally agree with what your saying
One can say there are people with 50 heads and 200 legs and 200 arms and say prove to me that there aren't ... if you can't prove to me there are not such people then well it's reasonable for me to believe that there are ... That is definitely a position one could take ... but not me.Willow (13350872) wrote:I'm not going to argue with ya on this but the simple fact is no one knows but the owners of the game People say this and people say that but no one has proof of what they say. I guess I hate to see it re-released just for the simple fact that some want it re- released so their turkey hat will sky rocket and this person doesn't care if someone else takes a loss as long as he makes out. I guess I shouldn't care either because my yoville cap will sky rocket too but I hate seeing others take a loss. Oh well we'll just have to wait and see what happens.
Willow (13350872) wrote:All hearsay..no proof And as I said if they were released for just a few seconds or whatever and a few got them. Who knows if those people still play. So all in all know one knows the facts. Simple as that. By the way did you decide to just take your clothes off and wash them and put back on lol
Meleagris (122131215) wrote:One can say there are people with 50 heads and 200 legs and 200 arms and say prove to me that there aren't ... if you can't prove to me there are not such people then well it's reasonable for me to believe that there are ... That is definitely a position one could take ... but not me.Willow (13350872) wrote:I'm not going to argue with ya on this but the simple fact is no one knows but the owners of the game People say this and people say that but no one has proof of what they say. I guess I hate to see it re-released just for the simple fact that some want it re- released so their turkey hat will sky rocket and this person doesn't care if someone else takes a loss as long as he makes out. I guess I shouldn't care either because my yoville cap will sky rocket too but I hate seeing others take a loss. Oh well we'll just have to wait and see what happens.
You said in an earlier post only Zynga knows and BVG, Zynga for about the last year had a sticky post in the forums stating that unreleased items could not be bought or sold in the forums and the Menorah Hat was in the list of the items that Zynga said were unreleased in that post. I don't think that BVG necessarily knows but you have said Zynga knows and Zynga has stated it was unreleased.Willow (13350872) wrote:Meleagris (122131215) wrote:One can say there are people with 50 heads and 200 legs and 200 arms and say prove to me that there aren't ... if you can't prove to me there are not such people then well it's reasonable for me to believe that there are ... That is definitely a position one could take ... but not me.Willow (13350872) wrote:I'm not going to argue with ya on this but the simple fact is no one knows but the owners of the game People say this and people say that but no one has proof of what they say. I guess I hate to see it re-released just for the simple fact that some want it re- released so their turkey hat will sky rocket and this person doesn't care if someone else takes a loss as long as he makes out. I guess I shouldn't care either because my yoville cap will sky rocket too but I hate seeing others take a loss. Oh well we'll just have to wait and see what happens.
There's no proof either way so there's really no argument. The thing is people come on here claiming that they know when really they don't. Now I'm done with this because like I said there is no argument because neither side can prove what they think is a fact. If anyone wants to continue the argument thinking they know. That's fine. I'm off to play yoville.
MASSACRE (185308865) wrote:I vote no to the rereleases, because if the rerelease everything what's the point the purpose of working to get a goal?
I will just have them in my plate like that..........
Some of the items of the last rerelease were my goals, now i have them but i don't feel as excited as i would be if i had worked for them but anyways that's just my opinion.... I think it just suck to have everything so easy!