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Mistyfied
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Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:22 pm
Lil J (143693635) wrote:My WB experience.
pre 2018,
the 1st WB I saw was in events.
A female figure, legs spread open, a dildo in her vagina.
I was shocked and didn't like it!.

Saw many things in events of perverted sexual titles! horrifying stuff! & reported it all!
I was told to report, I did and those events & WB remained, so I left yo! It was not my job, to police events, after I made owners aware of what was there, it was their job, i just want to decorate with my family.

After giving every item in my inventory to my closest friends.
10 yrs of collecting great stuff!! All the money & vip items I bought, all for nothing. But I didn't want to stay due to all the inappropriate goings on!!

I let it be known I was angry about all of that. & wasn't able to play until march 2024.
Started over. BV asked me to rejoin, so I did.
My 12 year old great niece had a FB account. & all her friends did too... she's now 24, she played yo when she was 12! So I did not want her to see that stuff.

Me: almost 71 now, play now with my 2 sisters, and i do NOT go to events! I did not buy any this time WB.

I feel sorry for the innocent players who did not abuse it.

Always the abusers who ruin everything for the rest of us, No, it's NOT fair!
It is what it is.


thanks for sharing that ... I too im of a more mature age. We use to have groups, I think there are still some -- where those of us of a slightly more mature age could gather and have a chuckle. This is tragic and I hope no one was hurt emotionally by the actions of those reckless players breaking tos.

Nita
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Tue Jun 11, 2024 10:23 pm
Do we really know it was players? I have seen no explanation that fits so far. They should not be foolish and not explain. I don't think it was political. There is NO free speech in Britain, did you know that? The USA has free speech and politics IS free speech, so maybe they couldn't take it, but if so, they may be violating OUR rights if it is political.

Stormy Amphitrite
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Posts: 1771

Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:28 pm
KAREN (186514636) wrote:I'm still a bit 'stuck' on one part of Viking Andrew's announcement:

"With this particular discovery of a ToS violating complication in Paint Boards action needed to be swiftly taken, which meant that the underlying issue within Paint Boards arrived much sooner than we expected."

So they've known about the/an UNDERLYING ISSUE/VIOLATION, previously, and just were forced to do something 'much sooner than expected' - yet they didn't warn us/give us any hint about any 'upcoming' problem...that they knew about? And they never mentioned that "any change or update to the Paint Board feature means that any work on the item as it currently exists is lost." That tidbit could have been 'helpful' as they seem to have 'anticipated' a BIG problem...just thought it would happen LATER. And while people are upset that paint boards are gone, a large part of the upset is also because it came without any warning.


It was likely because the violation that was new and very sudden, and not just a few Tom, Dick and Harry pics, was one that it would have broken SERIOUS SERIOUS law were it reported/discovered outside of the game. They had a choice between sudden removal of PBs or sudden shutdown of the entire game. I have had my share or complaints re:BVG per YW but this is not one of them although I completely undertand the anger/loss/sadness others feel.

Stormy Amphitrite
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Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:32 pm
Nita (114766277) wrote:Do we really know it was players? I have seen no explanation that fits so far. They should not be foolish and not explain. I don't think it was political. There is NO free speech in Britain, did you know that? The USA has free speech and politics IS free speech, so maybe they couldn't take it, but if so, they may be violating OUR rights if it is political.


It had nothing to do with politics--unless someone was calling for illegal/violent activity associated with political ideology.

Stormy Amphitrite
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Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:43 pm
Chill (126579776) wrote:
iWhimsy (187830285) wrote:EEek. Apologies for the double post not sure how it happens an dnot sure how to delete one of them.

Chill (126579776) wrote:
Adeline (113719515) wrote:i saw before leaving for Germany that someone from here on forum had a trump campaign sign on their front yard and i was offended and wondered if it was against the rules but did not report it. I was goiing to remove her from buddy list which i realize seems a bit reactionary but had no idea all this was going on until i got back to US yesterday, politics do not belong in this game

It wasn't politics that forced BVG to piss off a majority of it's player base...... ;)


No proof at all that it wasnt political art boards or faces that caused this. BVG has left many to speculate and form theories that it nvolved something extremely officially sick and criminal and involving children. But No proof!? But the days leading up to the disabled boards Trump art by MANY requests - looked like they were selling like hot cakes, and player got all upset with a seller for having them and threatened to report. 1-2 days later.... Voila. Timing wise. So yeah were going to speculate because BVG has given no valid reason for the detruction they caused. And as far as anyone offended by Trump boards that many players Ive seen requesting asking for...... do you know how much diversity is on here? They had a White house theme Obamas face in frames masks and some of their free items over time are from a certain political side and stance released into this game. So politics was already in this game without players bringing it themselves, personal beliefs and views and stances even social issues. I usually ignored what didnt interest me, Im not a Trump fan-- nor right or left they both equally suck -both parties but I didnt get offended at obamas face on here or if I see a Trump sign BIG DEAL! lol I carry on enjoying my game I OR I did up until now. ? Sadly I cant proceed with such a destruction of mytime an $. What a mess of everything Ive done all the purpose defeated. . I am unaware there were rules with paint boards no political figures or art of them as that woudl condradict the white house theme and Obamas face floating around on the game among other things released into game. Regardless , my game was heavily wrapped around the boards hundreds of rooms homes tours galleries events showcases 25 room avatar shop to sell and so much more. My game was killed regardless of the reason. I would hope this destruction an dimpact wasnt over politics if so it could have been handle ddifferently addressed if they didnt want it in the game. Notthsi action though. Unforgiveable My whole investment and enjoyment and mian thing I do on YW gone now. Imnot stimyulated enoiugh playing dress up looking pretty an ddecorating home after similar home. I need more substance than that. I dont see any substance left for what I ejoyed doing, kille dit for a few of us sure some will carry on ifthere game was not 90%+ wrapped around the boards. A portion though its affected. Period. The impacts will be felt eventually Im sure. It sure isnt foing to flourish the game losing players and $. So., again no proof what it is but the fact is days leading up to the boards wiped Trump faces were selling like hot cakes. I wont rule it out. No proof to do so.Im not happy and Im not going to pretend to be. No copmepensation could ever workmagic wave a wand to the destruction of hundreds of scenes and rooms. Id be here forever just cleaning up the mess they left behind.

Do you honestly think BVG would wipe out all paint boards for every player just because someone was posting anything political on some of them? Seriously?

They'd simply warn the player to stop it and be done with it. It is bigger than this. Same thing for regular porn. Same thing for doxing images. Something was an existential threat to BVG. There is only ONE thing that could be.

Oh and I warned them about that threat a decade ago....... :smug:


yep, seconding, It had nothing to do with politics--unless someone was calling for illegal/violent activity associated with political ideology.

Stormy Amphitrite
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Wed Jun 12, 2024 12:04 am
LisaTM (10095126) wrote:
KAREN (186514636) wrote:I'm still a bit 'stuck' on one part of Viking Andrew's announcement:

"With this particular discovery of a ToS violating complication in Paint Boards action needed to be swiftly taken, which meant that the underlying issue within Paint Boards arrived much sooner than we expected."

So they've known about the/an UNDERLYING ISSUE/VIOLATION, previously, and just were forced to do something 'much sooner than expected' - yet they didn't warn us/give us any hint about any 'upcoming' problem...that they knew about? And they never mentioned that "any change or update to the Paint Board feature means that any work on the item as it currently exists is lost." That tidbit could have been 'helpful' as they seem to have 'anticipated' a BIG problem...just thought it would happen LATER. And while people are upset that paint boards are gone, a large part of the upset is also because it came without any warning.


I mean, yeah, a warning about it before they shut them off would have been nice. I just wonder if this was so serious that they had to disable them IMMEDIATELY and if it was that urgent they couldn't warn us in advance they weren't able to leave them up long enough to take screen shots.


The worst case scenarios I was thinking that law enforcement or courts would get involved with were rather set in a different light by learning authorities would not just ask for the removing of the PB medium but the game itself. I believe this was a necessary and immediate, no time to pause, pre-emptive action on BVG's part.

Stormy Amphitrite
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Wed Jun 12, 2024 12:07 am
LisaTM (10095126) wrote:
Stormy Amphitrite (186654727) wrote:
Chill (126579776) wrote:
Miss Klutz (114423285) wrote:
Chill (126579776) wrote:Obviously BVG found some images on some paint boards that they couldn't accept as an organization, and that mattered more than the player satisfaction of every single player using them for fun. Whatever it is so sensitive that they cannot disclose the actual reason behind it. And any guess as to what it is, is just as valid as any other guess. But no player knows for certain - not even my know it all azz.

So our options are the same as they always are. Deal with it or move on. You can vent if it makes you feel better, but it's obviously not changing. BVG has said they will be doing something to try to compensate us for the losses, but we aren't getting paint boards back. For that matter, I doubt we get anything like them back. We can't be trusted to post self created content within the game.

It's an awful thing for Yo to endure. I enjoy paint boards and how they were used to extend creativity in decorating. I will miss that very much. I too have some that were gifts or purchases from Yos that are no longer in this world. I was super angry at first and spit some venom, but I am resolved that whatever caused it, was serious enough to warrant the decision. BVG has too much to lose to do it just to irritate the chit out of all of us.

I have made it to Acceptance in the grief process. I hope you find it too. :hug: :rose:


Rod, I have to commend you for your posts on this thread. You have explained the situation very well and how these types of things can happen. You have great knowledge when things happen in the game. Thanks for your support and great knowledge. :trophy: :thumbsup: :hug:

Thx Miss Klutz. I try to find the facts about issues, but on this one they aren't going to be sharing them. I did post twice about what I think it was and those were removed within 15 seconds. So my guess is that those were probably the issue, and it fits with the gravity and immediacy of the decision.

It still sucks for Yo tho. The impact is eternal.

n
lol none of mine, with guesses, have been removed to my knowledge. maybe they have stopped reading through this PB thread.


Probably. Andrew stopped in to give us that little update the other day and that's about it. I'd still love know what the story with that YoWorld/FishWorld poll is, but doubt we'll get an answer. Transparency is a thing of the past here. Sigh.


If this was as serious as I believe and now think I know, and I am not going to say on the boards or to anyone I don't already trust, they may never be able to tell us for serious legal reasons. So trust BVG did this for responsible reasons and conscience.

Stormy Amphitrite
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Wed Jun 12, 2024 12:11 am
Loie (9730540) wrote:i thought it was just the forums that didn't allow discussing certain things like politics, religion, etc (?) :?:


It had nothing to do with politics (or religion)--unless someone was calling for illegal/violent activity associated with political ideology (or religion).

Feds might be on that pretty quick but might just have asked for immediate removal of all PBs (if it were reported).

Dolores
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Wed Jun 12, 2024 12:16 am
Without knowing the reason, I honestly thought the reason was WB took too much data,
and so removed .
Many others & myself who have seen our items reduced in size, so that made sense to me.

Use to play Coral island & one day all the players came to their game & all their TEAM boxes were gone!
& boy howdy the tribal mess hit the social fan!
they were livid! to say the least!!
so i guess data is an issue with games.

Doesn't matter since it's a done deal tho'..i guess. idk.

Dolores
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Wed Jun 12, 2024 12:20 am
Beatrice (178761483) wrote:
Lil J (143693635) wrote:My WB experience.
pre 2018,
the 1st WB I saw was in events.
A female figure, legs spread open, a dildo in her vagina.
I was shocked and didn't like it!.

Saw many things in events of perverted sexual titles! horrifying stuff! & reported it all!
I was told to report, I did and those events & WB remained, so I left yo! It was not my job, to police events, after I made owners aware of what was there, it was their job, i just want to decorate with my family.

After giving every item in my inventory to my closest friends.
10 yrs of collecting great stuff!! All the money & vip items I bought, all for nothing. But I didn't want to stay due to all the inappropriate goings on!!

I let it be known I was angry about all of that. & wasn't able to play until march 2024.
Started over. BV asked me to rejoin, so I did.
My 12 year old great niece had a FB account. & all her friends did too... she's now 24, she played yo when she was 12! So I did not want her to see that stuff.

Me: almost 71 now, play now with my 2 sisters, and i do NOT go to events! I did not buy any this time WB.

I feel sorry for the innocent players who did not abuse it.

Always the abusers who ruin everything for the rest of us, No, it's NOT fair!
It is what it is.


thanks for sharing that ... I too im of a more mature age. We use to have groups, I think there are still some -- where those of us of a slightly more mature age could gather and have a chuckle. This is tragic and I hope no one was hurt emotionally by the actions of those reckless players breaking tos.

Just wanted to share so. Thank you! :thumbsup:

Stormy Amphitrite
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Wed Jun 12, 2024 12:21 am
Beatrice (178761483) wrote:
Adeline (113719515) wrote:
Loie (9730540) wrote:i thought it was just the forums that didn't allow discussing certain things like politics, religion, etc (?) :?:


i think whole game. i am typing with left hand so forgive bad job i am doing. i never saw any nudity or animal mistreatment or other things implied to be cause of this action but i did see the political sign so i mentioned it. i would not report it but others might.


I know there were racy images - while I dont hang in that part of the game ... I have going to sales once in a blue ran into the things that shouldnt have been on boards .... but recently, I'm a recuse and have NO Idea if that is what is going on. As for politics in the game; I personally wish we would leave both politics and the god concept alone -- but since this is suppose to your place and your space, it is going to happen and I can choose to not take part in it. -- but doxxing is another situation all together. Posting images of others and their personal information is a serious issue if that is what has been happening


I'm not shocked or disturbed by racy or sexual images of consenting individuals or between individuals--consenting is the word. Obviously they do not belong in the game and BVG can just remove them or kill the accounts responsible--obviously against TOS because some people are uncomfortable personally or because of religion with such imagery, the imagery is NSFW, and minors, especially young ones (older teens likely already are finding ways to see such imagery), Such imagery likely, if I get what you mean by racy, doesn't qualify as fine art nudity which kids might see on museum field trips.

This had to be more than racy or porn itself. So give BVG the benefit of the doubt that they had to do what they did immediately for the sake of the game and us having a game.

Amaya
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Wed Jun 12, 2024 12:30 am
tommy PBmad (146736020) wrote:Maybe to many yo's used paintboards to push back against the woke, dei, lgbtqxyz ++ culture that yo workers have been promoting. I don't have problem with that culture, I just haven't bought the offerings. BUT HAVE BOUGHT A LOT OF PAINT BOARDS,modular rooms, and avenues, to make travels easier in my over 2000 homes, aves and modular rooms ( road signs, billboards, connection homes, and homes created by me). This is an extream reaction if I got this right. I'll give is a bit of time to see how this plays out, been on yo since '09... but his might be the end of the road.

See now this is the kind of garbage that should get an instant ban.

Lily ofTheValley
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Wed Jun 12, 2024 12:41 am
Hackng through paintboards is my final guess. That would be a very serious issue.

Loie
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Wed Jun 12, 2024 1:08 am
Stormy Amphitrite (186654727) wrote:
Loie (9730540) wrote:i thought it was just the forums that didn't allow discussing certain things like politics, religion, etc (?) :?:


It had nothing to do with politics (or religion)--unless someone was calling for illegal/violent activity associated with political ideology (or religion).

Feds might be on that pretty quick but might just have asked for immediate removal of all PBs (if it were reported).

that's my point, i don't think it has anything to do with politics, that would be crazy.
i know we can't discuss it on the forums but think we're free to do politics in game.

Stormy Amphitrite
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Wed Jun 12, 2024 1:32 am
Loie (9730540) wrote:
Stormy Amphitrite (186654727) wrote:
Loie (9730540) wrote:i thought it was just the forums that didn't allow discussing certain things like politics, religion, etc (?) :?:


It had nothing to do with politics (or religion)--unless someone was calling for illegal/violent activity associated with political ideology (or religion).

Feds might be on that pretty quick but might just have asked for immediate removal of all PBs (if it were reported).

that's my point, i don't think it has anything to do with politics, that would be crazy.
i know we can't discuss it on the forums but think we're free to do politics in game.


apologies for misunderstanding :)

Staniel
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Wed Jun 12, 2024 2:05 am
Thanks alot guys, millions of coins gone in buying hand drawn art. I have a whole freakin art gallery that just got wiped out. I'm not very happy about it i've been collecting hand drawn art for years. At least I still have all my whiteboard pieces.

MdmBella
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Wed Jun 12, 2024 6:04 am
I really hope that this will be remedied, eventually. There must be a way to create art again!?!!?!? I'm mourning the loss of this artistic expression, and it was also a way for me to make coins, while socializing and sharing this art with others. I almost stopped playing, wanted to rebel with other players, but my decorating habit and friends keep me coming back...BVG, please bring back our paintboards, with added security measures and/or whatever you see fit to make it a safe, fun and artistic environment for all! :heartbroken: :nerd: :bye:

Adeline
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Wed Jun 12, 2024 8:26 am
a lot of remmeniscing - forgive spelling - remember early2009 and remarking that sellers would sell their own mothers in here if they could. Doubt that happened but would not be surprised to see international trade of children and women - wish i could remember Rod's warnings.

Mistyfied
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Wed Jun 12, 2024 10:20 am
Adeline (113719515) wrote:a lot of remmeniscing - forgive spelling - remember early2009 and remarking that sellers would sell their own mothers in here if they could. Doubt that happened but would not be surprised to see international trade of children and women - wish i could remember Rod's warnings.


this much we do know as fact; when Zynga sold the game one of the big deals was the ability to disconnect players --
I saw a discord post that combined both the images of a board and being rolled out of the room every time they went in the room .... I think they used the portal that allowed images on the board to put code in game that affected play ... that is why it wasnt a case of removing images - the boards themselves have been compromised

JulieHootieScraps
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Wed Jun 12, 2024 11:14 am
Beatrice (178761483) wrote:
Adeline (113719515) wrote:a lot of remmeniscing - forgive spelling - remember early2009 and remarking that sellers would sell their own mothers in here if they could. Doubt that happened but would not be surprised to see international trade of children and women - wish i could remember Rod's warnings.


this much we do know as fact; when Zynga sold the game one of the big deals was the ability to disconnect players --
I saw a discord post that combined both the images of a board and being rolled out of the room every time they went in the room .... I think they used the portal that allowed images on the board to put code in game that affected play ... that is why it wasnt a case of removing images - the boards themselves have been compromised


I wonder if that hack worked only on unprotected/unlocked boards, or on all of them??? :eh:
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