Rain (110294179) wrote:

Munekun (126426638) wrote:It's sort of already like that for me, lmao. I am only interested in Enchanting china and steampunk themes and both seem extremely hard to find for me. I've only came across a handful of items from steampunk and next to none for china, Not counting very small junk items. I have not played the game long enough to really have an opinion that counts for anything but it seems that it will only get worse and worse. But i don't really know what i am talking about as i only started actually playing the game when it was ready to be shut down per my sisters request.

Sometimes you have to hunt for the stuff you want. We all do it and it's part of Yo. You should see me when I need that one last item to complete a room...I don't quit. It's exhausting sometimes to be sure, but I do it, we all do it. And then there are also times when you just have to accept that you cannot have everything. And you know what? You're not entitled to have everything. Neither am I.

TheGeneral(VaultKeeper) (14397783) wrote:And.......you don't think any of these people are with guides? Lol...well your opinion is just that. You're kind of funny in your hidden self.

Rain (110294179) wrote:Technically, even if that is happening, it's not manipulation, it's just really salesmanship. It's still within the market.

What I'm talking about is when the economy is manipulated by the governing body. Like when Zynga re-released some of the 08 costumes. And look what happened, the market crashed hard. There was no consumer confidence and hardly anyone was buying YoCash because it was worthless.

Governments in real life have also tried to manipulate currency value artificially. I'm not a historian, but I'm not aware of any time that resulted in anything positive.

TheGeneral(VaultKeeper) (14397783) wrote:And.......you don't think any of these people are with guides? Lol...well your opinion is just that. You're kind of funny in your hidden self.

Rain (110294179) wrote:

TheGeneral(VaultKeeper) (14397783) wrote:And.......you don't think any of these people are with guides? Lol...well your opinion is just that. You're kind of funny in your hidden self.

Yes my opinion is just that. Agreed.

But from what I've observed in my time here I currently do not suspect the guides of manipulating prices. What I see them reflecting is more often than not trends I've already noticed myself. And I'm not even a very active trader compared to many.

BL1TZ (183544337) wrote:I get what you're saying. I was addressing what the person I quoted said, and I should have worded that a bit better. As an example say I went out and bought up all (or most) of the Legends Ares Eyebrows and afterwords allot of people want to buy them but nobody will sell. I could then raise the price and sell for 9m if there are people desperate enough to buy. In short I would have created a monopoly since I'd be the only one with the brows. This is what I was trying to get at in the other post, and although I don't really have a problem with the fact that this happens it can suck sometimes. Sorry if it's not making much sense it's 1:30AM here.

Rain (110294179) wrote:

BL1TZ (183544337) wrote:I get what you're saying. I was addressing what the person I quoted said, and I should have worded that a bit better. As an example say I went out and bought up all (or most) of the Legends Ares Eyebrows and afterwords allot of people want to buy them but nobody will sell. I could then raise the price and sell for 9m if there are people desperate enough to buy. In short I would have created a monopoly since I'd be the only one with the brows. This is what I was trying to get at in the other post, and although I don't really have a problem with the fact that this happens it can suck sometimes. Sorry if it's not making much sense it's 1:30AM here.

No it makes perfect sense and if you can actually buy up enough of one item to sway the price, I say good luck to you and that's a fair trading tactic. However, Yo still has enough players that what you are suggesting wouldn't be an advisable strategy and it's probably not one people are attempting.

During the time that any item is available, they are not "limited edition."

If a particular item was released and limited to say 5000 purchases and you managed to buy 4200 let's say, then you'd be pretty set. But as it is, anything that is released is available in unlimited quantities until it's gone. If one person is hoarding them, then chances are many others are, or at least many will be sold into the market.

This would not in my opinion be an advisable or successful strategy. Unless of course you happen to randomly fluke on those rare items that skyrocket. But who can predict that? If you were lucky enough to predict it, well then good on you.

TheGeneral(VaultKeeper) (14397783) wrote:

Rain (110294179) wrote:

BL1TZ (183544337) wrote:I get what you're saying. I was addressing what the person I quoted said, and I should have worded that a bit better. As an example say I went out and bought up all (or most) of the Legends Ares Eyebrows and afterwords allot of people want to buy them but nobody will sell. I could then raise the price and sell for 9m if there are people desperate enough to buy. In short I would have created a monopoly since I'd be the only one with the brows. This is what I was trying to get at in the other post, and although I don't really have a problem with the fact that this happens it can suck sometimes. Sorry if it's not making much sense it's 1:30AM here.

No it makes perfect sense and if you can actually buy up enough of one item to sway the price, I say good luck to you and that's a fair trading tactic. However, Yo still has enough players that what you are suggesting wouldn't be an advisable strategy and it's probably not one people are attempting.

During the time that any item is available, they are not "limited edition."

If a particular item was released and limited to say 5000 purchases and you managed to buy 4200 let's say, then you'd be pretty set. But as it is, anything that is released is available in unlimited quantities until it's gone. If one person is hoarding them, then chances are many others are, or at least many will be sold into the market.

This would not in my opinion be an advisable or successful strategy. Unless of course you happen to randomly fluke on those rare items that skyrocket. But who can predict that? If you were lucky enough to predict it, well then good on you.

This was not hard since a lot of the people bought 100's of millions in coins on pp. Would be easy for a group to pick out low costing items and just run ads for weeks buying and then adjust the price and make events to make an item seem like its "hot". Seen this pleeeeenty of times and it works.

This was not hard since a lot of the people bought 100's of millions in coins on pp. Would be easy for a group to pick out low costing items and just run ads for weeks buying and then adjust the price and make events to make an item seem like its "hot". Seen this pleeeeenty of times and it works.
I heard 2 rehab people got banned for selling coins.

Again events should run the prices...NOT a player made guide. Also a guide is something that kind of keeps you on track of things and both guides are just out of date. This means it's not a guide anymore but a fail.

U wise thing u!

TheGeneral(VaultKeeper) (14397783) wrote:This was not hard since a lot of the people bought 100's of millions in coins on pp. Would be easy for a group to pick out low costing items and just run ads for weeks buying and then adjust the price and make events to make an item seem like its "hot". Seen this pleeeeenty of times and it works.
I heard 2 rehab people got banned for selling coins.

Again events should run the prices...NOT a player made guide. Also a guide is something that kind of keeps you on track of things and both guides are just out of date. This means it's not a guide anymore but a fail.

Rain (110294179) wrote:

TheGeneral(VaultKeeper) (14397783) wrote:This was not hard since a lot of the people bought 100's of millions in coins on pp. Would be easy for a group to pick out low costing items and just run ads for weeks buying and then adjust the price and make events to make an item seem like its "hot". Seen this pleeeeenty of times and it works.
I heard 2 rehab people got banned for selling coins.

Again events should run the prices...NOT a player made guide. Also a guide is something that kind of keeps you on track of things and both guides are just out of date. This means it's not a guide anymore but a fail.

Well I don't know anything about those folks, but there is no rule that says you cannot go by event prices or Auction House sales prices, in face I'd encourage that. It's right up to the minute.

ll ARI ll (184018519) wrote:

This was not hard since a lot of the people bought 100's of millions in coins on pp. Would be easy for a group to pick out low costing items and just run ads for weeks buying and then adjust the price and make events to make an item seem like its "hot". Seen this pleeeeenty of times and it works.
I heard 2 rehab people got banned for selling coins.

Again events should run the prices...NOT a player made guide. Also a guide is something that kind of keeps you on track of things and both guides are just out of date. This means it's not a guide anymore but a fail.

U wise thing u!

Rain (110294179) wrote:

TheGeneral(VaultKeeper) (14397783) wrote:This was not hard since a lot of the people bought 100's of millions in coins on pp. Would be easy for a group to pick out low costing items and just run ads for weeks buying and then adjust the price and make events to make an item seem like its "hot". Seen this pleeeeenty of times and it works.
I heard 2 rehab people got banned for selling coins.

Again events should run the prices...NOT a player made guide. Also a guide is something that kind of keeps you on track of things and both guides are just out of date. This means it's not a guide anymore but a fail.

Well I don't know anything about those folks, but there is no rule that says you cannot go by event prices or Auction House sales prices, in face I'd encourage that. It's right up to the minute.

TheGeneral(VaultKeeper) (14397783) wrote:Yeah I don't play the game for social, I run it like a small business to pay for my Halloween hoard.
I just sit and watch events for hours upon hours. It's not hard to see what's going in especially in trading section, the group (not all) runs mainly in trading.

Munekun (126426638) wrote:I recently bought a miami cool pool design on the auction house for 600k, i made sure i had seen them selling before i decided to bid on it and win it last minute. I tried selling in an event sale but everyone only stuck to the what i think to be un-updated price guide price of 320k. What sucks about it is if i sold it for that i would obviously lose money but i think i can make around 900k for it on the auction [ the average is supposedly 1.5mil which seems too high obviously but whatever if it sells it sells ] Anyway my point is what can you trust..? I have yet to ever see someone actually stick to price guides so it makes it almost impossible to know how to price something lately as the only concrete price i can think to find is the auction average price but that doesn't exactly seem trustworthy either. Sorry for the long post i am just confused as to pricing in the game lately, it seems as if it is just always "your item, your price" but anytime i price an item i get crap for it from people for straying from the priceguide, lol.

Maggie PSK (157371514) wrote:

Munekun (126426638) wrote:I recently bought a miami cool pool design on the auction house for 600k, i made sure i had seen them selling before i decided to bid on it and win it last minute. I tried selling in an event sale but everyone only stuck to the what i think to be un-updated price guide price of 320k. What sucks about it is if i sold it for that i would obviously lose money but i think i can make around 900k for it on the auction [ the average is supposedly 1.5mil which seems too high obviously but whatever if it sells it sells ] Anyway my point is what can you trust..? I have yet to ever see someone actually stick to price guides so it makes it almost impossible to know how to price something lately as the only concrete price i can think to find is the auction average price but that doesn't exactly seem trustworthy either. Sorry for the long post i am just confused as to pricing in the game lately, it seems as if it is just always "your item, your price" but anytime i price an item i get crap for it from people for straying from the priceguide, lol.

It is rather confusing aint it?