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LadyJane1554
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:37 am
LisaTM (10095126) wrote:The OP is MIA. Interesting.

Not everyone can spend 24/7 on here. I am sure she will be back on to see whats been written when she gets time. :roll:

Anthony SpaceTime
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:37 am
Willow (13350872) wrote:1. Yes actually anyone that played at that time had the chance in my opinion. 2. As someone said it's no different then any other item. If you were there at the right time. You got it. And if they did decide to release it to be fair to the ones that missed out on it. As someone said it should only be fair to the people who played when it was released. 3. Not everyone should get it.


1. But what about the people that were sleeping around the world at that time? Not everyone is in the same time-zone, some people might have been working.

2. How could that possible be considered fair? You are comparing an item that was only in stores for what some claim to be only a few seconds, to other items that could have lasted in stores for a few days.

3. If it's released, I highly doubt it will be released for that certain group of people. Then everyone will argue about how that's not fair. Why ever release it when its only for a small group of people? :?

Moxii
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:38 am
Pete (2679242) wrote:It's important for BVG to note that many of the authors of these threads paint the opposing side in a negative light using words such as begging, whining, complaining, crying etc. This is a common tactic used by both sides to paint themselves as good holier than though people whose cause is worthier then the opposing side. People not wanting re-releases are trying very hard to protect their riches, some of which were gained through very suspicious behavior. Some of us went through the re-release phase by Zynga and took great pleasure in it. It is important to note that Zynga did indeed re-release some 08 costumes during this period as well as some rares. Misinformation is also very commonly used tactic during disagreements such as this to entrench the particular viewpoint of the instigator.

While BVG's statement is very clear many people still refuse to believe and accept that there are two conditions and both must be met for the answer to be no. Sentences containing conditions are very confusing to some people and they continue to misinterpret the statement, trying to bend it to suit their needs.
3. Will old items and collectibles be re-released?
Gary: If the item was officially released previously and everyone had the opportunity to get it, then no. We know item rarity and value is very important to the players, and we respect that.


The plutocrats have long lorded their riches over the poor, mocking the poor with derogatory terms such as "poor noob" or creating events at which the poor are discriminated against. It is common to see events with no noobs or RICH in their descriptions. These people take pleasure in creating a class culture in which the poor eat scraps off the floor while the rich feast at their table of iniquity. People against a level playing field or against discussion around items and releases seem to buy into the plutocratic lifestyle wholeheartedly and their intentions must be carefully scrutinized.

This was a great post!
It's unfortunate that folks on BOTH sides don't see themselves in any of this.
Hence...the many threads about this topic that just won't quit.

Viking John
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:39 am
Hey everyone!

As it's been stated a few times in this thread quoting Gary's interview with YoRehab, if any item has officially been released by Zynga in the past we will not be putting it back into the game. Accidental releases such as the Menorah Hat are different, as they weren't an official release.

All of your 08 and 09 costumes, retro specks, and all the other valuable items that have been released before are not going to be re-released. As Gary mentioned, we understand the value of rare items and want to keep it that way.

If you see people posting 'rumor' threads about releases coming tomorrow or next week, if it's not a post from one of us then it's exactly that, a rumor!

I hope this helps clear things up for everyone!

Adeline
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:39 am
Thank you.

Hopefully, there is nothing that is not understandable.

Smitten Kitten
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:40 am
Viking John wrote:Hey everyone!

As it's been stated a few times in this thread quoting Gary's interview with YoRehab, if any item has officially been released by Zynga in the past we will not be putting it back into the game. Accidental releases such as the Menorah Hat are different, as they weren't an official release.

All of your 08 and 09 costumes, retro specks, and all the other valuable items that have been released before are not going to be re-released. As Gary mentioned, we understand the value of rare items and want to keep it that way.

If you see people posting 'rumor' threads about releases coming tomorrow or next week, if it's not a post from one of us then it's exactly that, a rumor!

I hope this helps clear things up for everyone!


The Viking Has Spoken. ImageImageImage

Flatch Ulater
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:41 am
Viking John wrote:Hey everyone!

As it's been stated a few times in this thread quoting Gary's interview with YoRehab, if any item has officially been released by Zynga in the past we will not be putting it back into the game. Accidental releases such as the Menorah Hat are different, as they weren't an official release.

All of your 08 and 09 costumes, retro specks, and all the other valuable items that have been released before are not going to be re-released. As Gary mentioned, we understand the value of rare items and want to keep it that way.

If you see people posting 'rumor' threads about releases coming tomorrow or next week, if it's not a post from one of us then it's exactly that, a rumor!

I hope this helps clear things up for everyone!


what about short time release items??

BeeBee
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:41 am
Viking John wrote:Hey everyone!

As it's been stated a few times in this thread quoting Gary's interview with YoRehab, if any item has officially been released by Zynga in the past we will not be putting it back into the game. Accidental releases such as the Menorah Hat are different, as they weren't an official release.

All of your 08 and 09 costumes, retro specks, and all the other valuable items that have been released before are not going to be re-released. As Gary mentioned, we understand the value of rare items and want to keep it that way.

If you see people posting 'rumor' threads about releases coming tomorrow or next week, if it's not a post from one of us then it's exactly that, a rumor!

I hope this helps clear things up for everyone!


Can you make your particular post a STICKY! :) ty for taking the time to reiterate for everyone! :)

BeeBee
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:41 am
Flatch Ulater MYP (13247207) wrote:
what about short time release items??


omg....can you READ?

Anthony SpaceTime
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:42 am
Viking John wrote:Hey everyone!

As it's been stated a few times in this thread quoting Gary's interview with YoRehab, if any item has officially been released by Zynga in the past we will not be putting it back into the game. Accidental releases such as the Menorah Hat are different, as they weren't an official release.

All of your 08 and 09 costumes, retro specks, and all the other valuable items that have been released before are not going to be re-released. As Gary mentioned, we understand the value of rare items and want to keep it that way.

If you see people posting 'rumor' threads about releases coming tomorrow or next week, if it's not a post from one of us then it's exactly that, a rumor!

I hope this helps clear things up for everyone!


Alright, I have a question.

Could we, if possible, have some examples of a few accidental releases in the past?

Smitten Kitten
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:42 am
Flatch Ulater MYP (13247207) wrote:
Viking John wrote:Hey everyone!

As it's been stated a few times in this thread quoting Gary's interview with YoRehab, if any item has officially been released by Zynga in the past we will not be putting it back into the game. Accidental releases such as the Menorah Hat are different, as they weren't an official release.

All of your 08 and 09 costumes, retro specks, and all the other valuable items that have been released before are not going to be re-released. As Gary mentioned, we understand the value of rare items and want to keep it that way.

If you see people posting 'rumor' threads about releases coming tomorrow or next week, if it's not a post from one of us then it's exactly that, a rumor!

I hope this helps clear things up for everyone!


what about short time release items??



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Willow
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:43 am
Anthony (102235402) wrote:
Willow (13350872) wrote:1. Yes actually anyone that played at that time had the chance in my opinion. 2. As someone said it's no different then any other item. If you were there at the right time. You got it. And if they did decide to release it to be fair to the ones that missed out on it. As someone said it should only be fair to the people who played when it was released. 3. Not everyone should get it.


1. But what about the people that were sleeping around the world at that time? Not everyone is in the same time-zone, some people might have been working.

2. How could that possible be considered fair? You are comparing an item that was only in stores for what some claim to be only a few seconds, to other items that could have lasted in stores for a few days.

3. If it's released, I highly doubt it will be released for that certain group of people. Then everyone will argue about how that's not fair. Why ever release it when its only for a small group of people? :?


Well actually Ant. Bvg is talking about having their own exclusive number items. I mean it's really no different then the gary pants. I'm not really sure why people seem to think things are so unfair. I think it keeps the game interesting when they have exclusive items. The thing is if they do release it again. It should only be for the ones that played the game back then. I mean that's the argument in the first place that the ones that played back then didn't get the chance to get it. Well those should be the only ones that get the chance to get it then. And the same with any short time releases if they'd happen to release them. Only people that missed out while playing the game should get those items.

MiSs ThAnG
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:43 am
Looks like we have the definite possibility of seeing the Celtic Cross in game again.

Pete
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:44 am
Viking John wrote:Hey everyone!

As it's been stated a few times in this thread quoting Gary's interview with YoRehab, if any item has officially been released by Zynga in the past we will not be putting it back into the game. Accidental releases such as the Menorah Hat are different, as they weren't an official release.

All of your 08 and 09 costumes, retro specks, and all the other valuable items that have been released before are not going to be re-released. As Gary mentioned, we understand the value of rare items and want to keep it that way.

If you see people posting 'rumor' threads about releases coming tomorrow or next week, if it's not a post from one of us then it's exactly that, a rumor!

I hope this helps clear things up for everyone!



Fuel to the fire!

"officially been released" requires further clarification. What constitutes an official release. An item that is in game for the duration of the theme or an item that is part of a theme for a few seconds then removed?

An item such as the celtic cross, does that fall under officially been released or accidental releases. How are us as players supposed to know which item falls into which category?

Flatch Ulater
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:45 am
YBL BeeBee ill WTO (103384668) wrote:
Flatch Ulater MYP (13247207) wrote:
what about short time release items??


omg....can you READ?

OMG.. yes... I .. can... read... where does he address short time items?? can you read?? just curious... seems you read into it ;P

Adeline
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:46 am
He gave you one, Anthony. The Menorah hat. Please people let this be the end of it. A release is a release. Many many items were deliberate short time releases - anniversary items for instance. They were released for a specific purpose.

As far as " How are us as players supposed to know which item falls into which category?" Why are you supposed to know? What gets released gets released. A RELEASE IS A RELEASE.

Willow
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:46 am
Viking John wrote:Hey everyone!

As it's been stated a few times in this thread quoting Gary's interview with YoRehab, if any item has officially been released by Zynga in the past we will not be putting it back into the game. Accidental releases such as the Menorah Hat are different, as they weren't an official release.

All of your 08 and 09 costumes, retro specks, and all the other valuable items that have been released before are not going to be re-released. As Gary mentioned, we understand the value of rare items and want to keep it that way.

If you see people posting 'rumor' threads about releases coming tomorrow or next week, if it's not a post from one of us then it's exactly that, a rumor!

I hope this helps clear things up for everyone!


Thanks so much for posting this :)

Flatch Ulater
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:47 am
YBL BeeBee ill WTO (103384668) wrote:
Flatch Ulater MYP (13247207) wrote:
what about short time release items??


omg....can you READ?



why you getting so upset?? there was no mention of short time released items.. why you getting so mad???

Paula FruitTingles
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:48 am
Viking John wrote:Hey everyone!

As it's been stated a few times in this thread quoting Gary's interview with YoRehab, if any item has officially been released by Zynga in the past we will not be putting it back into the game. Accidental releases such as the Menorah Hat are different, as they weren't an official release.

All of your 08 and 09 costumes, retro specks, and all the other valuable items that have been released before are not going to be re-released. As Gary mentioned, we understand the value of rare items and want to keep it that way.

If you see people posting 'rumor' threads about releases coming tomorrow or next week, if it's not a post from one of us then it's exactly that, a rumor!

I hope this helps clear things up for everyone!

It is just not going to any clearer than this. Thanks Viking John. :D

So now...at the mention of a rumour, innuendo, or simply plain BS thread about re-releases.....can we all say nothing and simply trot out this thread highlighting Viking John's post with a laughing smilie gif. :lol:

BeeBee
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Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:48 am
Flatch Ulater MYP (13247207) wrote:
YBL BeeBee ill WTO (103384668) wrote:
Flatch Ulater MYP (13247207) wrote:
what about short time release items??


omg....can you READ?

OMG.. yes... I .. can... read... where does he address short time items?? can you read?? just curious... seems you read into it ;P


lol...yeah....I shall remove the foot from my mouth now lol so sorry! :lol:
After I posted this I realized I typically refer to short-term/accidental as one in the same and I may be incorrect in doing that. I don't really know of any short-term releases that weren't accidental, but that's not to say they don't exist. Do you have an example?
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