kING jUMBA (164396615) wrote:Thank you so much who voted! Congrats everybody who won especially Katy! Remember designing features after you and now you have your own HeheXD. I cant wait for the release, congrats again!

XxLady LovelyxX (153581311) wrote:I love it all.. but did we not get to vote on these? That kind of bothers me if not. But I guess it may be in attempt to stop the whining about voter fraud etc.? Also congrats winners! You worked hard and are uberly talented! Can't wait to wear your stuff in game.

Whooaa (185180932) wrote:Dang. I had like 5 or 6 entries in the finalists & not a single one made it passed voting. Kind of a harsh blow I may want to retire or rethink the time & energy I put in to these!! Yeeesh. But luckily I only design for fun! But I still feel for anyone else who got so far but not far enough. I have been designing for these since 2011 and haven't been lucky enough yet. Maybe i'll just leave it to the pros! I don't think i'll have a better chance than I just had. But alas thanks for the contest & congrats to those given the luxury! Especially those who have won multiple times! Lucky.

l IcE l (185644864) wrote:Posting again since I had to quickly post from work before.
Congrats everyone brilliant results. Love that there are some new faces in amongst bet its a great feeling
Quite a lot of things I am looking to buy from this
Looks like I'm in need of revamping my style if i want to get in there, need a new approach for the next contest.
Wonder what the next one be

Ricky BamBam (4492518) wrote:

Whooaa (185180932) wrote:

Melancholia (183484317) wrote:

Whooaa (185180932) wrote:Dang. I had like 5 or 6 entries in the finalists & not a single one made it passed voting. Kind of a harsh blow I may want to retire or rethink the time & energy I put in to these!! Yeeesh. But luckily I only design for fun! But I still feel for anyone else who got so far but not far enough. I have been designing for these since 2011 and haven't been lucky enough yet. Maybe i'll just leave it to the pros! I don't think i'll have a better chance than I just had. But alas thanks for the contest & congrats to those given the luxury! Especially those who have won multiple times! Lucky.

Don't give up , man! I don't know why this happened and people were inclined to vote like that . Maybe as your popularity grows, your luck will as well . I like your designs a lot. BvG liked them enough to put them as finalist and the rest.. idk what people were thinking. No clue . Not sure what's going on here.

Moxii (105074356) wrote:

Whooaa (185180932) wrote:

Moxii (105074356) wrote:

Whooaa (185180932) wrote:Dang. I had like 5 or 6 entries in the finalists & not a single one made it passed voting. Kind of a harsh blow I may want to retire or rethink the time & energy I put in to these!! Yeeesh. But luckily I only design for fun! But I still feel for anyone else who got so far but not far enough. I have been designing for these since 2011 and haven't been lucky enough yet. Maybe i'll just leave it to the pros! I don't think i'll have a better chance than I just had. But alas thanks for the contest & congrats to those given the luxury! Especially those who have won multiple times! Lucky.

I was shocked!! Shocked not to see even one of yours chosen!!
It saddened me to see others chosen while your original creations were not.
You're beyond talented and shouldn't give up. Please don't...we need designers w/fresh ideas and I need your HH Dino in this game!

Ultimately I guess my name & designs werent popular or liked enough if everything else beat me out on votes to that extent!! I feel like i let down everybody who was rooting for me.....But thank you SOO MUCH for your wonderful words

I seriously don't think it's that your stuff is not liked!!
Your designs are impeccable...so clean and new!! The ideas you submitted were really good!! I loved just about all of it.
You didn't let us down...trust me. It wasn't you that did. There are still many of us that prefer fresh, new ideas over stuff that isn't. Keep doing what you do. Many people actually really love it...your time will come!!

Thank you both a lot.

I feel your reaction, but don't give up. I see that some names, and types of items are quite ingrained in the 'styles' of Yo. It's that or resorting to certain practices it seems. I had hopes for my mistletoe too since i've seen several people ask for an item like it, but it seems the voting has shown that hairs and make up (each with their particular styles) are more popular. It bites, but atleast we know now that trying to be original and innovative also has some serious limitations, unless we work within certain item and style preferences.

... in that way, when rethinking effort, it seems to me that, instead of quitting, we might have to rethink to what items and styles we focus the effort on. These results are quite different from the Halloween contest. In the Halloween contest, we saw a lot of HH and yobers and such in the 'extras' category, while under single items in this contest a totally different result comes forward. And it was clear from the start that the 'item sets' category was a hard category to compete in, since there wouldn't be many designs making it into game from that category. These are all just my observations. But,yes, it seems to me that the way the instructions for a contest are given have severe repercussions on what the results will yield, and especially to what types of items will be selected. The categories seemed a small adjustment, but they do have big ramifications when it comes to the entries as well as the whole selection. The notes i take from this contest are that i'm happy to see that the full outfits have regained the status of importance in design contests, and that's a thing we all can be happy about, yet on the other hand i see that the 'items sets' category will likely be more prone to yield facial features and outfits that are almost full, which leaves the 'single items' category not really as a category in which you really have to expect much innovation from unless you come with hair, or more exceptional clothing.

As a result, due to voting , you can see it coming that in 'item sets' anything slightly explicitly male is almost a doomed choice if it has to compete with an incomplete female outfit or female facial features (And i'm just saying this without attacking anything or anyone, but: what do you think the majority of voters will pick, knowing that the majority of the players is female? I don't think anything slightly male simply stands a chance because of the limitations and the numbers, women could be interested in some male hair, but they don't want the beard and what not, and if they have the option to go for more suitable female feats, they will... simple). As for the 'single items' category, it's clear that this is kind of a 'dump anything category', but it stands to reason that here hairs or hats or other special clothing would be more popular too. The main reasons are that 1) as it stands the game has already been over stuffed with a ton of yobers, handhelds or anything that kind 2) Hairs, hats and other special clothing often are also the general wanted items. So yes, it stands to reason that in voting, here too those will be favoured over anything else. And also in this category, you can bet again that if it's an explicitly male item, yober, hh or such, your item stands very slim to no chances, due to the enormity of what can be submitted under this category, as well as the majority of the players being female.

So... i hope this perspective does put a bit of your efforts in a different light. The thing isn't that your quality was off or so, on the contrary! But yeah, when i break down your entries, they stood little to no chance because of the way the contest was ran. It's a clear vote on popularity, and when we look objectively, any of your items that got in the finals were clearly items that would have it hard to compete to the kind of majority we have in game. Where i'm glad to see that the 'full outfit' category is restored in value, i'm left with the feeling that it's almost stupid to enter a design in 'items sets' or 'single items' that is for males, or that is a really original idea for yobers or hh simply because none of them really stand a chance when it comes to a majority vote in the current situation. These two extra categories will yield the most predictable items and will not allow much innovation unless for very specific types of items.

And that... has nothing to do with the quality of your designs, and all the more with the inherent biases of favoured items. I'd like to note that with saying all this, i don't intend to call you a name or so. Just breaking it down differently so you see the disadvantage your choices were up against. Were my first thoughts were that the restructuring of the contest categories was positive (mainly because of full outfits), i'm now more inclined to see that the extra two categories still need some redefining. I mean, if they are going to be inclined to yield facial features, clothing and hairs, it's clear that anything for males is at a disadvantage in these extra categories. The adjustment i do propose is that, since these are very broad categories, they get 3 subcategories each, which would be 'female, male and unisex'. I wasn't happy with the categories of the Halloween contest, but i do note that the hairs section did have a female and a male category. And with contest categories that are so large and general as in this contest, it seems to me that some subcategories are in order.

KenJeyz (185864839) wrote:CONGRATS CAM! ill buy ur outfitt mygosh huehue

Kraze (175801908) wrote:I don't think my thank you I posted yesterday was enough. I was in a rush and wanted to get a thank you in asap lol.

Thank you everyone who voted for my elf, I appreciate it. Even though I wish my female was there too, I am excited I finally get to have a male in the game! So thanks so much!!

Woahhh, IcE, Ricky, Sherry, Wikkd, Gleek, and everyone else...keep going at it! Such a shame yours didn't go through, but your talents and creativity/originality does not fall flat! Best of luck in the future!!!

A big congrats to those who won as well. Korab, Jumba, Sayuri, Kevinswife, Pierre, Cam, and Alex, and Pinksnow, all of you did an awesome job. Can't wait to see BVG's take on these items and to buy many of them when they hit the game!

Thanks again, BVG.