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Skylar Heartbinder
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Sun Aug 09, 2020 9:51 am
Meadow (152618059) wrote:Lucky for you on the drug part :drink: Yeah I live in Texas so I will most likely die from old age before it is legal here :wailing:

:( This makes me so sad! I wish it was legal everywhere. Finally legal medically here and it has been such a big help to hubby and I! Expensive AF and we had to give up a lot to just buy needed dosages, but it is such a noticeable difference. Hubby was in ER every week for several months before we had access. Now he is down to once every other month at most!

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Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:14 am
In my country, wearing a mask became mandatory 6 weeks ago for public transport and recently for all closed spaces where people are supposed to interact with others (like shops, banks and such). I'm allergic to pollen and I wore masks even before this pandemic. The purpose of those basic single-use and cotton masks we are urged to wear is partial air flow restriction, so if fitted properly it should decrease the amount of pollutants and particles you inhale or exhale because the stream is weaker. In long run, that doesn't mean it causes lack of oxygen in your blood if you don't have chronic respiratory issues, though it may seem like that because it takes you longer to inhale the amount of air you're used to. True, it's a pain at first and it's certainly not pleasant when you have stuffy nose 24/7 but I got past that and learned how to breathe in them long ago so it's fine, I took my exams in them, worked 8 hour shifts and traveled by train for few hours. Back in 2015 when I bought my first mask it wouldn't even cross my mind that it can be like this. o_o

My only issue is they aren't free to get wherever they need to be used, and cotton ones still aren't widely available. Prices are outrageous with nearly 1$ per mask in bulk deals which is just too much for minimum wage over here, considering the fact you need to toss that type of mask away after single use and I know many who don't just because of price. I don't understand how are people supposed to comply with such measures, especially the elderly and large families. When you put it this way it just looks like someone wants to grab some extra bucks in this type of crisis and that's sickening. Best I could do was offer to grab some groceries for people in front of shop who couldn't enter because they had no mask.

It's okay to demand something simple like wearing mask in closed space and it's also okay if you don't want to allow anyone who doesn't have mask (and is able to wear it) in your shop but it's outrageous to put a price on basic needs and musts. If you have 5$ to spend daily (and that's probably more than many people here can afford) you probably won't give that 1 for piece of fabric just so you can buy 4$ worth of food or go to bank. :sick:

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Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:27 am
TL Kira (187264144) wrote:In my country, wearing a mask became mandatory 6 weeks ago for public transport and recently for all closed spaces where people are supposed to interact with others (like shops, banks and such). I'm allergic to pollen and I wore masks even before this pandemic. The purpose of those basic single-use and cotton masks we are urged to wear is partial air flow restriction, so if fitted properly it should decrease the amount of pollutants and particles you inhale or exhale because the stream is weaker. In long run, that doesn't mean it causes lack of oxygen in your blood if you don't have chronic respiratory issues, though it may seem like that because it takes you longer to inhale the amount of air you're used to. True, it's a pain at first and it's certainly not pleasant when you have stuffy nose 24/7 but I got past that and learned how to breathe in them long ago so it's fine, I took my exams in them, worked 8 hour shifts and traveled by train for few hours. Back in 2015 when I bought my first mask it wouldn't even cross my mind that it can be like this. o_o

My only issue is they aren't free to get wherever they need to be used, and cotton ones still aren't widely available. Prices are outrageous with nearly 1$ per mask in bulk deals which is just too much for minimum wage over here, considering the fact you need to toss that type of mask away after single use and I know many who don't just because of price. I don't understand how are people supposed to comply with such measures, especially the elderly and large families. When you put it this way it just looks like someone wants to grab some extra bucks in this type of crisis and that's sickening. Best I could do was offer to grab some groceries for people in front of shop who couldn't enter because they had no mask.

It's okay to demand something simple like wearing mask in closed space and it's also okay if you don't want to allow anyone who doesn't have mask (and is able to wear it) in your shop but it's outrageous to put a price on basic needs and musts. If you have 5$ to spend daily (and that's probably more than many people here can afford) you probably won't give that 1 for piece of fabric just so you can buy 4$ worth of food or go to bank. :sick:


I hate hearing how some people couldn't go in and get food. I am happy you offered to for them. I would hope the store would have some kind of policy for that :( I know our local ones have curbside delivery. The store employees do the shopping and they take out to the car, for those that can't come in or don't wish to wear the masks.

Masks are expensive for the disposable ones. I know our pharmacy and the docs offices give you one when entering if you don't have one. Stores do not, but most don't enforce mask rules around here either.

Thank you for sharing your experience with masks. One of my cousins lives in Japan and masks are normal for her. So, I know a lot of different countries tend to view the restrictions differently. It is always nice to hear different experiences from different states, people and other countries. I got into the focused only on my small area trap when I was young. It wasn't until I opened my eyes and took in all the different views from all over that I finally started understanding to love the differences in everyone and everyplace.

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Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:22 am
I think even after this pandemic is over, i might still wear medical gloves when shopping and use hand sanitizer more.. it really has opened my eyes to how dirty public places can be.

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Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:46 am
Skylar Heartbinder (119863787) wrote:I hate hearing how some people couldn't go in and get food. I am happy you offered to for them. I would hope the store would have some kind of policy for that :( I know our local ones have curbside delivery. The store employees do the shopping and they take out to the car, for those that can't come in or don't wish to wear the masks.

Masks are expensive for the disposable ones. I know our pharmacy and the docs offices give you one when entering if you don't have one. Stores do not, but most don't enforce mask rules around here either.

Thank you for sharing your experience with masks. One of my cousins lives in Japan and masks are normal for her. So, I know a lot of different countries tend to view the restrictions differently. It is always nice to hear different experiences from different states, people and other countries. I got into the focused only on my small area trap when I was young. It wasn't until I opened my eyes and took in all the different views from all over that I finally started understanding to love the differences in everyone and everyplace.

We've got delivery services but they aren't free, especially for small scale daily shopping like bread, newspaper and maybe a portion of fresh veggies so it's very likely that someone who can't afford mask won't be able to afford delivery either. Luckily, young people here often check with elderly in their buildings/neighborhoods if they need something from the shop before they go on their own but it's still not the case everywhere.

Last week I called my ophthalmologist to schedule an appointment (I have astigmatism and it's gotten worse in last few months) and was told to bring mask at least 10 times during the call because they can't let me in the building if I'm not wearing one. Okay, I understand and probably won't forget it because I'm more or less used to wearing one without someone telling me to but it's not uncommon for people to forget their masks. It's not something they are used to (I'm a black sheep here LOL) and all my friends said it happened to them at least once. Who knows, maybe you are leaving in a rush, something happened to you and your head is a mess, the fact you won't get medical attention in time when you need it just because of mask is super scary. I wish there was at least options to buy them on site if they can't be free like they are at yours.

BTW, I'm a huge fan of Japanese culture and I'd like to visit someday. It's probably a polar opposite to where I live and omg at trains never being late, I'd love to experience that! :haha:

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Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:09 pm
Skylar Heartbinder (119863787) wrote:
Willow (13350872) wrote:I'm from around Holmes County ohio..which a large part of that community is the Amish and in Holmes County we have 327 confirmed cases with 6 deaths..Amish travel all the time and they have huge weddings and funerals but you know what they don't have? T.v's and that is why Covid is not affecting them and the only time you might see them with a mask on is in doctors offices or Walmart.


I think that's a really good point. I think it's more the way they interact with each other though. We used to live out right next to them. They don't really touch each other. Even the family members didn't seem to be too close, unless it was a child that needed held. For a stranger the closest they came to touching was to give change or a hand shake for a deal type thing and only from the men.

Also since they live on farms, there is plenty of open space in between dwellings. I think places with the large populations are getting hit so badly because they are living on top of each other. Hard to keep 6 ft from each other in places like that.

Not knocking on southern peeps either, because they are some of my favorite peeps, but I notice my southern friends are all touchy feely too. They always have to hug, be close to, put an arm around, etc others. Took me awhile to get used to considering the people I was raised around, and it is nice. I really like being around people not afraid to show affection. Down side is it has been really difficult for them to social distance these past several months. My point though, is non Amish are used to always touching others. Meeting people it is normal to shake a hand, even when a doctor walks into a room, that is first thing they do. So, Amish are masters of the social distancing normally LOL!


They may not kiss and hug but they along with a lot of people do not keep their distances.

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Edit to add and that's the thing with Amish..they don't watch T.v and they just continue to live life as normal :heart:

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Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:15 pm
Willow (13350872) wrote:
Skylar Heartbinder (119863787) wrote:
Willow (13350872) wrote:I'm from around Holmes County ohio..which a large part of that community is the Amish and in Holmes County we have 327 confirmed cases with 6 deaths..Amish travel all the time and they have huge weddings and funerals but you know what they don't have? T.v's and that is why Covid is not affecting them and the only time you might see them with a mask on is in doctors offices or Walmart.


I think that's a really good point. I think it's more the way they interact with each other though. We used to live out right next to them. They don't really touch each other. Even the family members didn't seem to be too close, unless it was a child that needed held. For a stranger the closest they came to touching was to give change or a hand shake for a deal type thing and only from the men.

Also since they live on farms, there is plenty of open space in between dwellings. I think places with the large populations are getting hit so badly because they are living on top of each other. Hard to keep 6 ft from each other in places like that.

Not knocking on southern peeps either, because they are some of my favorite peeps, but I notice my southern friends are all touchy feely too. They always have to hug, be close to, put an arm around, etc others. Took me awhile to get used to considering the people I was raised around, and it is nice. I really like being around people not afraid to show affection. Down side is it has been really difficult for them to social distance these past several months. My point though, is non Amish are used to always touching others. Meeting people it is normal to shake a hand, even when a doctor walks into a room, that is first thing they do. So, Amish are masters of the social distancing normally LOL!


They may not kiss and hug but they along with a lot of people do not keep their distances.

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Any event is hard to keep distance at, that is why I am glad they closed the fairs at least. The ones I lived near did not get close to anyone. They gave you dirty look if you said excuse me and had to reach anywhere near them at store too LOL! Those ones are wearing more colors and no coats. Are those menonites? The ones I lived near only wore black/white and were always completely covered.

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Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:20 pm
Skylar Heartbinder (119863787) wrote:
Willow (13350872) wrote:
Skylar Heartbinder (119863787) wrote:
Willow (13350872) wrote:I'm from around Holmes County ohio..which a large part of that community is the Amish and in Holmes County we have 327 confirmed cases with 6 deaths..Amish travel all the time and they have huge weddings and funerals but you know what they don't have? T.v's and that is why Covid is not affecting them and the only time you might see them with a mask on is in doctors offices or Walmart.


I think that's a really good point. I think it's more the way they interact with each other though. We used to live out right next to them. They don't really touch each other. Even the family members didn't seem to be too close, unless it was a child that needed held. For a stranger the closest they came to touching was to give change or a hand shake for a deal type thing and only from the men.

Also since they live on farms, there is plenty of open space in between dwellings. I think places with the large populations are getting hit so badly because they are living on top of each other. Hard to keep 6 ft from each other in places like that.

Not knocking on southern peeps either, because they are some of my favorite peeps, but I notice my southern friends are all touchy feely too. They always have to hug, be close to, put an arm around, etc others. Took me awhile to get used to considering the people I was raised around, and it is nice. I really like being around people not afraid to show affection. Down side is it has been really difficult for them to social distance these past several months. My point though, is non Amish are used to always touching others. Meeting people it is normal to shake a hand, even when a doctor walks into a room, that is first thing they do. So, Amish are masters of the social distancing normally LOL!


They may not kiss and hug but they along with a lot of people do not keep their distances.

Image


Any event is hard to keep distance at, that is why I am glad they closed the fairs at least. The ones I lived near did not get close to anyone. They gave you dirty look if you said excuse me and had to reach anywhere near them at store too LOL! Those ones are wearing more colors and no coats. Are those menonites? The ones I lived near only wore black/white and were always completely covered.


No those are regular English people..so it's a mix of both and yeah I can just imagine how some people give the evil eyes if people don't take all this serious and as for social distancing..I take that serious and I've always washed my hands and covered my cough and sneeze..so the only thing I don't do is use a mask. I fit right in with the people around Holmes County :haha: :haha: :hug:

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Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:45 pm
Willow (13350872) wrote:
Skylar Heartbinder (119863787) wrote:
Willow (13350872) wrote:
Skylar Heartbinder (119863787) wrote:
Willow (13350872) wrote:I'm from around Holmes County ohio..which a large part of that community is the Amish and in Holmes County we have 327 confirmed cases with 6 deaths..Amish travel all the time and they have huge weddings and funerals but you know what they don't have? T.v's and that is why Covid is not affecting them and the only time you might see them with a mask on is in doctors offices or Walmart.


I think that's a really good point. I think it's more the way they interact with each other though. We used to live out right next to them. They don't really touch each other. Even the family members didn't seem to be too close, unless it was a child that needed held. For a stranger the closest they came to touching was to give change or a hand shake for a deal type thing and only from the men.

Also since they live on farms, there is plenty of open space in between dwellings. I think places with the large populations are getting hit so badly because they are living on top of each other. Hard to keep 6 ft from each other in places like that.

Not knocking on southern peeps either, because they are some of my favorite peeps, but I notice my southern friends are all touchy feely too. They always have to hug, be close to, put an arm around, etc others. Took me awhile to get used to considering the people I was raised around, and it is nice. I really like being around people not afraid to show affection. Down side is it has been really difficult for them to social distance these past several months. My point though, is non Amish are used to always touching others. Meeting people it is normal to shake a hand, even when a doctor walks into a room, that is first thing they do. So, Amish are masters of the social distancing normally LOL!


They may not kiss and hug but they along with a lot of people do not keep their distances.

Image


Any event is hard to keep distance at, that is why I am glad they closed the fairs at least. The ones I lived near did not get close to anyone. They gave you dirty look if you said excuse me and had to reach anywhere near them at store too LOL! Those ones are wearing more colors and no coats. Are those menonites? The ones I lived near only wore black/white and were always completely covered.


No those are regular English people..so it's a mix of both and yeah I can just imagine how some people give the evil eyes if people don't take all this serious and as for social distancing..I take that serious and I've always washed my hands and covered my cough and sneeze..so the only thing I don't do is use a mask. I fit right in with the people around Holmes County :haha: :haha: :hug:


Ahhh yeah I know when I went to PA to visit relatives their amish wore more colors, but the ones in upper Ohio always wore just black/white. Oh those evil eyes were before Covid LOL!

I am good about staying back in lines and such, but I have caught myself more than once reaching past people and going oooops sh*t sorry. Tthey have all been nice about it and I always wear the mask out and always say excuse me before the reach, but it is hard to adjust to the not reaching past someone like I used to hahahaha!

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Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:37 pm
Doodler (10729465) wrote:Here is one thing most people don't think about.

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Yes this! Human/child trafficking is a thousand times more important than a virus with a survival rate of 99%

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Sun Aug 09, 2020 3:46 pm
Kio (185180932) wrote:Someone in my family caught covid from their job in the medical field after at first getting a false negative when testing. They then had to go in to strict quarantine and came out testing negative afterwards and was able to return to their job. I was already a germaphobe before this pandemic. So when people cough all over everything I run the other direction even before this pandemic. I wash my hands before and after touching anything and try not to come in to contact as it is with door knobs, people, etc. I was social distancing before this pandemic too. Wearing a mask and gloves gives me a small sense of added protection and is not something I'm ashamed of. I enjoy wearing a ninja mask in public. If and when this calms down, I may continue to wear a ninja mask and gloves in public, because I already have/had zero trust in people and their sanitation practices even way before this pandemic took place globally. If people don't wear a mask and gloves that's their choice but I will run from their snot-nosed screaming children in public and expect at-risk individuals to stay at least 6 ft away from me. To me it is only about caution and something I don't want to risk on top of the other risks in every day life. If people are out and about I only hope they are mindful of not to spread anything.


I have mental problems, bipolar, so I have been sheltering in place before it was popular and since it is no longer asked for in WA. I am also an OCD germaphobe. I also hate crowds being on the spectrum. But I want and need to get out as part of my mental health treatment program--even if it is just to go to my gynecologist or what not. I hated this free mask that my hubby and I both got one. I told my hubby it felt like baggy T-shirt material for the face. I just got 3 absolutely gorgeous fabrics, well-made, pleated and nose wired masks from Etsy sellers. I can't wait to wear them. Really. They are beautiful. So all the selfish people who can't be bothered to protect others and send the message of protecting others can bite me (and I am not talking about anyone with a real condition that prevents them wearing one). And, to the point about life being all about risk--well, that doesn't mean you have the right to (especially unnecessarily) risk the lives of others or be part of driving up infection rates so high that the health care system is prevented in saving the lives that they could or treating any other serious conditions. Your risk ends with others wanting to live. That is why there are drunk driving laws (I wonder if the selfish "I don't need or want to wear a mask" are also the same as the drunk drivers...)

And for those here minimizing the reality and threat of a world-wide pandemic where 165K have officially died since February (the actually death count is thought to be several thousands more due to various factors), you can bite me also but I likely have you blocked anyway.

https://ncov2019.live/

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Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:24 pm
Skylar Heartbinder (119863787) wrote:
Willow (13350872) wrote:I'm from around Holmes County ohio..which a large part of that community is the Amish and in Holmes County we have 327 confirmed cases with 6 deaths..Amish travel all the time and they have huge weddings and funerals but you know what they don't have? T.v's and that is why Covid is not affecting them and the only time you might see them with a mask on is in doctors offices or Walmart.


I think that's a really good point. I think it's more the way they interact with each other though. We used to live out right next to them. They don't really touch each other. Even the family members didn't seem to be too close, unless it was a child that needed held. For a stranger the closest they came to touching was to give change or a hand shake for a deal type thing and only from the men.

Also since they live on farms, there is plenty of open space in between dwellings. I think places with the large populations are getting hit so badly because they are living on top of each other. Hard to keep 6 ft from each other in places like that.

Not knocking on southern peeps either, because they are some of my favorite peeps, but I notice my southern friends are all touchy feely too. They always have to hug, be close to, put an arm around, etc others. Took me awhile to get used to considering the people I was raised around, and it is nice. I really like being around people not afraid to show affection. Down side is it has been really difficult for them to social distance these past several months. My point though, is non Amish are used to always touching others. Meeting people it is normal to shake a hand, even when a doctor walks into a room, that is first thing they do. So, Amish are masters of the social distancing normally LOL!


About small cities and farms: also getting hit badly especially due to agricultural and meat packing industries or being areas where prisons are located (and those that work in those areas and catch it while at work bring it back further into their communities). The most recent increase in WA cases has been due to agricultural, far from being urban, areas.

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Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:33 pm
TexanSouthern (103681266) wrote:
Doodler (10729465) wrote:Here is one thing most people don't think about.

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Yes this! Human/child trafficking is a thousand times more important than a virus with a survival rate of 99%

anyone with existing health issues most certainly does not have a 99% chance of survival. and i am not sure about your math where you are but in canada, roughly 13% of the affected have died so far. almost 9000 lives... 9000 moms, dads, children. and we currently have over 6700 active case of which almost 2200 are consider serious or critical... so the 1% does not add up in all parts of the world.

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Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:42 pm
In my country is mandatory to use face mask or face shield at public places, transportation, supermarkets, etc.

I wear a transparent face shield cause my skin is super sensitive and i can get an allergy or contact dermatitis just like that super easily, also cannot stand the heat and the material covering my face. Some people wear face shield and face mask together when they go out. Thanks God, the face shields are allow here, so people with skin issues can have an option to wear and feel safe too. (I think in another countries the use of face shields is not very common, just for medical workers).

Mine is like this:

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Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:43 pm
Always (112546669) wrote:In my country is mandatory to use face mask or face shield at public places, transportation, supermarkets, etc.

I wear a transparent face shield cause my skin is super sensitive and i can get an allergy or contact dermatitis just like that super easily, also cannot stand the heat and the material covering my face. Some people wear face shield and face mask together when they go out. Thanks God, the face shields are allow here, so people with skin issues can have an option to wear and feel safe too. (I think in another countries the use of face shields is not very common, just for medical workers).

Mine is like this:

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i see people here in canada wearing both as well.

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Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:44 pm
Stormy Amphitrite (186654727) wrote:
Skylar Heartbinder (119863787) wrote:
Willow (13350872) wrote:I'm from around Holmes County ohio..which a large part of that community is the Amish and in Holmes County we have 327 confirmed cases with 6 deaths..Amish travel all the time and they have huge weddings and funerals but you know what they don't have? T.v's and that is why Covid is not affecting them and the only time you might see them with a mask on is in doctors offices or Walmart.


I think that's a really good point. I think it's more the way they interact with each other though. We used to live out right next to them. They don't really touch each other. Even the family members didn't seem to be too close, unless it was a child that needed held. For a stranger the closest they came to touching was to give change or a hand shake for a deal type thing and only from the men.

Also since they live on farms, there is plenty of open space in between dwellings. I think places with the large populations are getting hit so badly because they are living on top of each other. Hard to keep 6 ft from each other in places like that.

Not knocking on southern peeps either, because they are some of my favorite peeps, but I notice my southern friends are all touchy feely too. They always have to hug, be close to, put an arm around, etc others. Took me awhile to get used to considering the people I was raised around, and it is nice. I really like being around people not afraid to show affection. Down side is it has been really difficult for them to social distance these past several months. My point though, is non Amish are used to always touching others. Meeting people it is normal to shake a hand, even when a doctor walks into a room, that is first thing they do. So, Amish are masters of the social distancing normally LOL!


About small cities and farms: also getting hit badly especially due to agricultural and meat packing industries or being areas where prisons are located (and those that work in those areas and catch it while at work bring it back further into their communities). The most recent increase in WA cases has been due to agricultural, far from being urban, areas.

Most definitely! We don't have any factories like that around here. None where people are crammed in small places any ways. I heard about all the outbreaks at those meat packing places :(

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Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:48 pm
Skylar Heartbinder (119863787) wrote:
Stormy Amphitrite (186654727) wrote:
Skylar Heartbinder (119863787) wrote:
Willow (13350872) wrote:I'm from around Holmes County ohio..which a large part of that community is the Amish and in Holmes County we have 327 confirmed cases with 6 deaths..Amish travel all the time and they have huge weddings and funerals but you know what they don't have? T.v's and that is why Covid is not affecting them and the only time you might see them with a mask on is in doctors offices or Walmart.


I think that's a really good point. I think it's more the way they interact with each other though. We used to live out right next to them. They don't really touch each other. Even the family members didn't seem to be too close, unless it was a child that needed held. For a stranger the closest they came to touching was to give change or a hand shake for a deal type thing and only from the men.

Also since they live on farms, there is plenty of open space in between dwellings. I think places with the large populations are getting hit so badly because they are living on top of each other. Hard to keep 6 ft from each other in places like that.

Not knocking on southern peeps either, because they are some of my favorite peeps, but I notice my southern friends are all touchy feely too. They always have to hug, be close to, put an arm around, etc others. Took me awhile to get used to considering the people I was raised around, and it is nice. I really like being around people not afraid to show affection. Down side is it has been really difficult for them to social distance these past several months. My point though, is non Amish are used to always touching others. Meeting people it is normal to shake a hand, even when a doctor walks into a room, that is first thing they do. So, Amish are masters of the social distancing normally LOL!


About small cities and farms: also getting hit badly especially due to agricultural and meat packing industries or being areas where prisons are located (and those that work in those areas and catch it while at work bring it back further into their communities). The most recent increase in WA cases has been due to agricultural, far from being urban, areas.

Most definitely! We don't have any factories like that around here. None where people are crammed in small places any ways. I heard about all the outbreaks at those meat packing places :(


Farmworkers, the people who have to pick our food are so very much at risk and are often feeling forced to earn enough to take care of their families or risk covid. :( Covid spread is also becoming very much an indicator in the US of racial injustice and social/economic inequality.

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Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:53 pm
Taurus (185839344) wrote:
TexanSouthern (103681266) wrote:
Doodler (10729465) wrote:Here is one thing most people don't think about.

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Yes this! Human/child trafficking is a thousand times more important than a virus with a survival rate of 99%

anyone with existing health issues most certainly does not have a 99% chance of survival. and i am not sure about your math where you are but in canada, roughly 13% of the affected have died so far. almost 9000 lives... 9000 moms, dads, children. and we currently have over 6700 active case of which almost 2200 are consider serious or critical... so the 1% does not add up in all parts of the world.


This! It's not only 1% death here in states either, that is a made up number by certain cheeto and friends so as to not look bad. They also never include any of the life threatening/chronic complications that come with a lot cases. People assume the only ones getting critically ill or dying are old or sick (which pisses me off for a whole different reason, they say it like the elderly and disabled don't matter), but a lot of normally healthy people getting hit hard and dying too. I have a lot of nurse friends, 2 of which work in ICU and I feel so bad for them. They are getting the worst of all this. They are risking their own health and their families. Some have temporarily moved out so they don't risk bringing anything home to their spouses and kids. They have to treat these sick people, watch them die alone after weeks/months of suffering, inform their families (who are crushed because they couldn't be there with them), then turn around and see people spout nonsense about it all being a hoax and not that dangerous :(

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Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:55 pm
Taurus (185839344) wrote:
TexanSouthern (103681266) wrote:
Doodler (10729465) wrote:Here is one thing most people don't think about.

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Yes this! Human/child trafficking is a thousand times more important than a virus with a survival rate of 99%

anyone with existing health issues most certainly does not have a 99% chance of survival.

Many illnesses have high survival rates if discovered and treated early but it's all numbers and percentages until someone you care about dies, just like statement in the picture means nothing until your child is taken away. Masks can be taken off easily and children should be encouraged to act responsibly, avoid walking alone (especially at night) and spend their time in groups.
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