The older I get, the more I realize that people do not care for truth in any form. They can't handle it. When they are confronted by truth, it either upsets them, confuses them, or convicts them. We are constantly inundated with lies from every vector, and yet no one seems to care. So I'm going to ask you a series of questions, and I'd like your honest answers - no judgments.

Does understanding the truth matter to you?

Do you care if someone lies to you?

Do you lie when it suits you, especially when you know the truth for sure?

Does telling the truth change your view of someone?

Do you lie to yourself?

Is truth relative?

I ask these questions because I am growing more and more concerned about society as a whole. We no longer hold anyone accountable - especially ourselves. We accept lies as the truth when they suit our view. We reject truth as lies when it contradicts what we want to believe. We've even coined a new term - "my truth" - that is the most narcissistic and arrogant thing I've ever heard.

I have a job that requires me to find the truth. No matter how ugly it is, my job is to tell someone just how ugly their baby is. And when I do, people will sometimes tell me that I'm lying about their baby, that I don't have experience with their baby, I don't understand their baby, or anything to deflect the truth of what was tested. I watch my friends and family post things to social media that are no more true than Santa, and then they will go apesh*t if you don't buy into it because they feel like you are calling them a liar. So I'm just trying to understand the rules. Is lying ok now? All the time? About everything? Because it sure seems like no one cares about truth at all.

And don't even get me started about justice..........

I've often found myself in situations where people get offended by things I say for simply being true. We need to normalize candor. I would rather be told the truth to my face regardless of how I feel about it. I've seen people with incredulous looks on their faces when told the truth - no sugarcoating. Oftentimes, people will dance around the truth rather than spit it out. This is the kind of behavior that needs to stop. That being said, I think different situations will warrant they way the truth is told. Nonetheless, it's still the same truth.

Does understanding the truth matter to you?
Yes

Do you care if someone lies to you?
This depends on the circumstances. If it doesn't pertain to me and it makes the other person uncomfortable, then no I don't really care. Example: If someone doesn't want to announce a job promotion and I ask about it.

Do you lie when it suits you, especially when you know the truth for sure?
I'm guilty of this. Rather then tell someone the truth, I'll lie or give an excuse. Lying can become a quick and short-term solution to a problem that requires long-term planning. When avoiding that, people can often resort to lying.

Does telling the truth change your view of someone?
Yes, I see them in a better light, a different perspective. If I don't like them, then at least I'd know they were honest with me and I'd respect them for it.

Do you lie to yourself?
No

Is truth relative?
I think there are different parts of the truth that shed light on the whole truth. Is truth absolute? I'm not sure. We all have different cultures, norms, values, and morals that may influence answers to some questions and the way we experience this world. For this reason, I am not completely against the concept of "my truth."

Richford (3429282) wrote:Is truth absolute? I'm not sure. We all have different cultures, norms, values, and morals that may influence answers to some questions and the way we experience this world. For this reason, I am not completely against the concept of "my truth."

So I'll give you my standard example when confronting this topic. 100 years ago it was ok for a 50 year old man to marry a 13 year old girl and knock her up. In many cultures this was considered normal. These days people go to jail. What changed? It was just as vile back then - that truth didn't change. Our cultural acceptance of the truth changed, but the truth did not.

This is the slope so many people get on. They can argue that anything is ok, if they choose to do it. They have taken the truth of a morality and buried it to fit their version of morality. So many people run from "wrong" and "right" discussions now because of this reality. Everyone is afraid to stand up for what is right, because they've either accepted the lie or worse, they want the lie to become the truth - when it never can be. I have dozens of examples here, but all of them will get eggs thrown at me as I gore scared cow after sacred cow.

It really is maddening how many lies people will accept to justify who they choose to be.

Well said

who woulda thought those deep thoughts could come from a weirdo like you.... yea i do lie to myself, i have beeen telling myself i am going to clean my workshop for 6 months

Rod (126579776) wrote:

Richford (3429282) wrote:Is truth absolute? I'm not sure. We all have different cultures, norms, values, and morals that may influence answers to some questions and the way we experience this world. For this reason, I am not completely against the concept of "my truth."

So I'll give you my standard example when confronting this topic. 100 years ago it was ok for a 50 year old man to marry a 13 year old girl and knock her up. In many cultures this was considered normal. These days people go to jail. What changed? It was just as vile back then - that truth didn't change. Our cultural acceptance of the truth changed, but the truth did not.

This is the slope so many people get on. They can argue that anything is ok, if they choose to do it. They have taken the truth of a morality and buried it to fit their version of morality. So many people run from "wrong" and "right" discussions now because of this reality. Everyone is afraid to stand up for what is right, because they've either accepted the lie or worse, they want the lie to become the truth - when it never can be. I have dozens of examples here, but all of them will get eggs thrown at me as I gore scared cow after sacred cow.

It really is maddening how many lies people will accept to justify who they choose to be.

Good point.

prefiero una verdad que duela que una mentira

Chio (168653736) wrote:prefiero una verdad que duela que una mentira

Tocaya

I hate lies

Enough said...

I grew up in an era where it was taught to us to tell the truth no matter what-and it stays this way for me. If that dress is ugly on you-I will tell you it is but in a nice way. There is no reason for lies-none.

question everything. well dont get silly and suspicious of everything, but keep an open-mind atleast. that doesnt mean that u are ready to put the tin-foil hat on... it means you are welcome to other ideas and thoughts and wont just believe what you have heard... or even thought for a long time
i was watching a clip last night with some lady who was talking about covid but basically her message was "question everything to keep an open mind... statements keep minds closed". and shes so right
thats how i feel. there are 3 things that ive changed my mind about after so many years. i wasnt influenced by any one particular, or the media, it was just me learning, keeping an open mind and thinking for myself. i think i was kinda lucky to be raised in a small peaceful country where thoughts and ideas werent really pushed on us strongly. theres a lot of free thinking here compareds to some places
im ready to consider anything. i am not stuck in one way of thinking. i like the challenge actually sometimes. there was one thing i believed up until i was around early 30s. and then when i felt like i had discovered a new truth, i wasnt even upset about it. i felt kind of awakened
and now im too tired to answer your other questions 1 by 1. but i just wanted to share that. question everything. it doesnt mean you are crazy or a rebel

I ask these questions because I am growing more and more concerned about society as a whole. We no longer hold anyone accountable - especially ourselves. We accept lies as the truth when they suit our view. We reject truth as lies when it contradicts what we want to believe. We've even coined a new term - "my truth" - that is the most narcissistic and arrogant thing I've ever heard.

Imma go more simple than other responses

Does understanding the truth matter to you?
Yes.

Do you care if someone lies to you?
Yes.

Do you lie when it suits you, especially when you know the truth for sure?
If it's a lie to avoid hurting someone's feelings or conflict and that they will never most likely find out the truth, then yes.

Does telling the truth change your view of someone?
Do you mean in how they react to the truth? If so, it depends on what I was expecting their reaction to be.

Do you lie to yourself?
Yes.

Is truth relative?
I believe in factual truth, so no.