You got you UFO cheaper than me. I paid on average 200k for the three I have.

It's no secret I've been looking for colorful quilts out of suburban. You know how many I'd have now if I was only willing to pay the 35k rehab thinks its worth? None. Who's selling an item that has been out of store for 5+ years at only 35k?

Even if I had 100s of them I wouldn't sell them at that price.

Anyways, to summerize, the purpose of this thread isn't all about "items being jacked so we are asking for a re-release." Not that. Not at all. You need to go back and read the original post. Here what we talk at the moment is just what one word leads to another.

Veronica (122961678) wrote:
Who cares about guides? I don't. Guides work in a funny way. When they list items less than 200k, sellers don't like it, but when an item is jacked and listed as 5m, sellers love it. Especially nowadays, guides are out of hand and totally invalid. I don't even check them anymore.

People are out to make coin so they can go out and buy things. A person is more like to sell an item for 5m than 200k because 200k in this game, the way it is now, is pretty much meaningless. And you go to items that are only worth like 20k? Good luck ever finding them as it's not worth the hassle to try and even sell for chump change that will buy you next to nothing.

Samberg (185737325) wrote:You got you UFO cheaper than me. I paid on average 200k for the three I have.

It's no secret I've been looking for colorful quilts out of suburban. You know how many I'd have now if I was only willing to pay the 35k rehab thinks its worth? None. Who's selling an item that has been out of store for 5+ years at only 35k?

Even if I had 100s of them I wouldn't sell them at that price.

ikr.

-- I didn't mean the collective UFO, I meant the little mini model! (not sure if you meant the collectible ufo or the mini model one on a stand. However I've seen even the mini model sold almost as high as the collectible, shockingly enough LOL)

Samberg (185737325) wrote:
Lemme teach you something. When you're looking for an item and you notice it's taking you forever to find. You start offering amounts on it. If the amount you offer isn't enough, you raise your offer until it is enough.

I'm gonna guess that lamb thing was like 100k when you first started looking for it and I'm gonna guess you kept offering 100k til the "bible" decided it was worth a million or what god awful ridiculous number it is now.

When you notice that either your price or top bible isn't good enough, you adjust your offer accordingly to tempt a seller to come out. Sure you may end up paying 1m for an item that's "worth" 100k at the time but in the long run you make out on the deal.

Oddly people call me a price jacker for this approach. But you do what you gotta do to get your item and not be completely screwed by guide manipulation. Manipulation you should have first hand knowledge of with the piano.

I learned my lesson a few years back with animated polar head lights. I was looking when they were allegedly 25k items. Another player started looking to. They became million coin items. Cheapest I ever bought one was 3.2m. Now maybe if I was offering. 250k back when it was 25k, I would have never paid 3.2m for one.

Beat the guide to the punch and make it so a seller feels compelled to sell to you.

mmhmm I won't even discuss what I have paid for a bowl of eyeballs when the "bible" still had them at 500k But guess what? I got what I wanted........some people aren't willing to sacrifice and sell other things they like less, to get something they like more......

Yes within the last 2 pages, the thread has taken a turn. However, in regard to the high prices. Sellers need to beware that now that the hackers are gone, and all the money that came with them, people are soon not going to be able to pay these crazy prices anymore. No matter how you look at it, it is absolutely ridiculous to have to spend that kind of money for anything other than a collectible. It takes a lot for me to spend that kind of money for something. I will admit I have for a few hairs, but nothing else. I still stand by what I said. This game was thriving when people had a lot of options. I also made the statement in another thread that it is ridiculous for BVG to state that they are making steps to cut back on price jacking yet they are pleasing those who want themes to remain closed just so those people can price jack the items. Being a decorator, I want as many items to chose from to create cool rooms. People can still set a price per yocash and can still sale it to others. Collectibles would be on a timer and would never be brought back. People who would get mad if BVG actually took the pro rerelease of ghosted themes are those people who would need to get over it. That whole thing was part of the biggest issue with Zynga along with hackers, and part of the reason why people stopped playing the game. These are the reasons why the game was being ran into the ground by Zynga. Don't continue the path that Zynga had laid for us! Help BVG to get this game to what it was during its peak.

Besides everything, my very personal opinion on this whole "rares" issue, if this game was in my hands, I would put everything in store and never remove anything ever again. No need to. I would let people buy, dress up, decorate have fun. New comers would be welcomed with a huuuuuugeeeee store that could drive them crazy lol Ohh i want this and this and this omg i have to do this theme ... etc things would be sold all the time. Why would I block my own stores full of yocash items that can be sold unlimitedly. Design them once, sell them forever. There can be some collectibles once in a while, those can be super precious unique items among players, and that's it. Everybody would play in peace.

Really. This is my true feelings about this game. I am an old player, I have tons of expensive stuff. Really expensive stuff, but I only buy what I like, and mostly buy only 1 (especially clothing) When I decorate, I buy what I need, what I like. So I don't want to tear apart my existing rooms and sell something just for getting another thing that is price jacked. It is a very uncomfortable way of playing for me to hoard random stuff to random rooms just for reselling or for the fear of needing them later and not being able to find enough of them or the for the fear of items can be price jacked.

The current concept that Zynga created in this game, is actually something wasn't originally intended to. This is what creates the conflict.

Veronica (122961678) wrote:Besides everything, my very personal opinion on this whole "rares" issue, if this game was in my hands, I would put everything in store and never remove anything ever again. No need to. I would let people buy, dress up, decorate have fun. New comers would be welcomed with a huuuuuugeeeee store that could drive them crazy lol Ohh i want this and this and this omg i have to do this theme ... etc things would be sold all the time. Why would I block my own stores full of yocash items that can be sold unlimitedly. Design them once, sell them forever. There can be some collectibles once in a while, those can be super precious unique items among players, and that's it. Everybody would play in peace.

Really. This is my true feelings about this game. I am an old player, I have tons of expensive stuff. Really expensive stuff, but I only buy what I like, and mostly buy only 1 (especially clothing) When I decorate, I buy what I need, what I like. So I don't want to tear apart my existing rooms and sell something just for getting another thing that is price jacked. It is a very uncomfortable way of playing for me to hoard random stuff to random rooms just for reselling or for the fear of needing them later and not being able to find enough of them or the for the fear of items can be price jacked.

The current concept that Zynga created in this game, is actually something wasn't originally intended to. This is what creates the conflict.

I already told you why this everything in stores nothing discontinued approach wouldn't work for YOU as a non-YC buyer, though. I know it sounds ideal (I really do, I'm a decorator myself), but the only people who will lose out on it absolutely, are the non YC buyers only.

The reason why those items are *rare* and worth a lot are because they are discontinued.

If every item is in store and you have nothing to sell to afford to buy YC items, what are you going to sell to afford YC rates charged by YC buyers? You wont nearly earn enough the current methods to earn coins, I'm sure of that.

And if YC buyers have nothing discontinued they choose to sell their YC to afford to buy, why would they buy excess YC to sell to anyone else? There would be no need to.

Nyx (12531218) wrote:

Veronica (122961678) wrote:Besides everything, my very personal opinion on this whole "rares" issue, if this game was in my hands, I would put everything in store and never remove anything ever again. No need to. I would let people buy, dress up, decorate have fun. New comers would be welcomed with a huuuuuugeeeee store that could drive them crazy lol Ohh i want this and this and this omg i have to do this theme ... etc things would be sold all the time. Why would I block my own stores full of yocash items that can be sold unlimitedly. Design them once, sell them forever. There can be some collectibles once in a while, those can be super precious unique items among players, and that's it. Everybody would play in peace.

Really. This is my true feelings about this game. I am an old player, I have tons of expensive stuff. Really expensive stuff, but I only buy what I like, and mostly buy only 1 (especially clothing) When I decorate, I buy what I need, what I like. So I don't want to tear apart my existing rooms and sell something just for getting another thing that is price jacked. It is a very uncomfortable way of playing for me to hoard random stuff to random rooms just for reselling or for the fear of needing them later and not being able to find enough of them or the for the fear of items can be price jacked.

The current concept that Zynga created in this game, is actually something wasn't originally intended to. This is what creates the conflict.

I already told you why this everything in stores nothing discontinued approach wouldn't work for YOU as a non-YC buyer, though. I know it sounds ideal (I really do, I'm a decorator myself), but the only people who will lose out on it absolutely, are the non YC buyers only.

The reason why those items are *rare* and worth a lot are because they are discontinued.

If every item is in store and you have nothing to sell to afford to buy YC items, what are you going to sell to afford YC rates charged by YC buyers? You wont nearly earn enough the current methods to earn coins, I'm sure of that.

And if YC buyers have nothing discontinued they choose to sell their YC to afford to buy, why would they buy excess YC to sell to anyone else? There would be no need to.

That would encourage everyone to buy their own yc which is better in the long run. Yc dealers will still exist because they still need coins to afford the coin items in store. Store can drain a lot of coins before you know it once you start decorating & clothes shopping.

And I am not a non-yc buyer. Especially with todays rates, there is no way I am letting a dealer get bulk amounts of my coins. I don't create them by hocus-pocus When I really want something, I buy my own yc. That simple.

i think best way to solve this would b release all old themes in store otherwise delete them thier only taking up space no use to anyone locked either way it dont bother me if everyone gets chance to go get them if they were open some will not like the idea but at the moment if they were open u cant collect coins to buy anything plus bvg would reap the rewards which they desreve after wat zynga did to all us players and the money bvg have laid out why not open these themes to help bvg recoup some of their loses after all they helped all of us by saving the game least we could do as loyal players is let them open those themes to help them out like i said i have lots of old stuff but have no problem at all with this idea

Why is this thread still on page 1

Veronica (122961678) wrote:
That would encourage everyone to buy their own yc which is better in the long run. Yc dealers will still exist because they still need coins to afford the coin items in store. Store can drain a lot of coins before you know it once you start decorating & clothes shopping.

And I am not a non-yc buyer. Especially with todays rates, there is no way I am letting a dealer get bulk amounts of my coins. I don't create them by hocus-pocus When I really want something, I buy my own yc. That simple.

I totally agree with this! People not being able to pay coins for yocash items should not be a problem. That is what you get for not spending real money to get what you want at a decent price. Yocash dealers dictate what they want in coins for yocash items. Same for discontinued collectibles.

HaXaYa (12865602) wrote:Why is this thread still on page 1

Because it is an ongoing discussion!

This game won't be fun anymore if everybody has everything at their disposal.

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:

Veronica (122961678) wrote:
That would encourage everyone to buy their own yc which is better in the long run. Yc dealers will still exist because they still need coins to afford the coin items in store. Store can drain a lot of coins before you know it once you start decorating & clothes shopping.

And I am not a non-yc buyer. Especially with todays rates, there is no way I am letting a dealer get bulk amounts of my coins. I don't create them by hocus-pocus When I really want something, I buy my own yc. That simple.

I totally agree with this! People not being able to pay coins for yocash items should not be a problem. That is what you get for not spending real money to get what you want at a decent price. Yocash dealers dictate what they want in coins for yocash items. Same for discontinued collectibles.

That's what I am talking about. At the moment people are like "why would I buy yc when I can sell my older coin stuff for crazy prices and just find a dealer to buy the yc items I want" kind of attitude which is smart. Is it good for BVG? No. Is it good for the future of the game? No.

This current state of the game is Zynga's way. And we know where it leads. The unavoidable closure.

XX SOUL TAKER XX (185103886) wrote:i think best way to solve this would b release all old themes in store otherwise delete them thier only taking up space no use to anyone locked either way it dont bother me if everyone gets chance to go get them if they were open some will not like the idea but at the moment if they were open u cant collect coins to buy anything plus bvg would reap the rewards which they desreve after wat zynga did to all us players and the money bvg have laid out why not open these themes to help bvg recoup some of their loses after all they helped all of us by saving the game least we could do as loyal players is let them open those themes to help them out like i said i have lots of old stuff but have no problem at all with this idea

I can't rap my head around why so called "supporters" of bvg are so against something (unlocking furniture themes) that will bring in a profit for BVG and thus pay the artists to create new and creative themes?!?

HaXaYa (12865602) wrote:This game won't be fun anymore if everybody has everything at their disposal.

That is your opinion. I for one fell in love with this game when we had the options to do what we wanted and got new themes once every 3 months or so. I mean of course I want them sooner, but the game made everyone happy before removing a lot of the themes.

I really would like to have some of the themes back in the store. There was a lot I missed because it was a never ending problem, with the lag in the game. I wasn't able to play for months, even after sending in so many tickets I lost count. Then there are some themes that I just flat out missed, that I would love to have but never see being sold anywhere. But I understand too, that people like to sell and make money off of the stuff that is no longer in stores.

TIKA 74 (109583622) wrote:I miss a lot of those themes, because I stopped playing the game when it all started to go down hill.. So yea, I would like to be able to buy them!!

ditto

Amber (134193745) wrote:I really would like to have some of the themes back in the store. There was a lot I missed because it was a never ending problem, with the lag in the game. I wasn't able to play for months, even after sending in so many tickets I lost count. Then there are some themes that I just flat out missed, that I would love to have but never see being sold anywhere. But I understand too, that people like to sell and make money off of the stuff that is no longer in stores.

Yes ! the lag... the mortal LAG !

I totally forgot about that. Ever since they stopped fixing anything in the game, I was having major lag issues that was making impossible to navigate in game for me. I wasn't able to visit events (before they permanently closed them), I wasn't able to follow my buddies, shopping was a pain and everything was being rushed crazily so I just semi-quit. Many people did the same.

It isn't about being a loyal player or not. Why would I be "loyal" to any game in the first place lol A game is played for fun. If the things are broken, the game is being neglected and if it isn't fun any more why would I insist on playing when the game is unplayable...
That's also what was going on those days.