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Willow
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Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:29 pm
I'm sure once bvg releases what they've got in store for us. They'll be booming in the money. I know my wallet and many others wallets will be wide open ;) Re-releases only do good for a little while then it's back to the starting point and with everyone afraid to spend a lot of money on items because they may get re-released. That's exactly what happened with zynga. After re-releases happened a lot of people closed their wallets up. I mean why spend a bunch of money on a game if their just going to re-release stuff. Bring on the new.

Moxii
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Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:29 pm
Samberg (185737325) wrote:
How is that spot on?

As I said, I know several people who bought yocash just to get the jaguars that were unintentionally re-released. And some of those people ended up buying 10+ jags in total either by their own money spent or someone else's money spent on yocash.

I'm willing to bet the most profit BVG has made on this game was due to that "unintentional mistake."

People love to claim that re-releases are terrible and people just want something for nothing. Well many of these items that are sought after were yocash to begin with and even with a re-release someone needs to spend their real money for a person to acquire more of them.


There's much logic here and your previous post. I'd quote that too, but this whole quoting thing is too confusing on this forum.
Very well said :)

Samberg
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Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:30 pm
I dislike the quote system immensely on this forum. LMAO

MvP, Burlesque, MTV, Groovy were all let out of the vault and their prices went right back up to where they were anyway. Hell, some of the items from those themes that were re-released actually gained value on the secondary market because of the re-release and difference in yocash rate.

Mafia Tubs went from an item that was around 200k to 400k immediately upon re-release and have just gone up from there - as an example.

Adeline
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Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:32 pm
Samberg, did you really just join the game a month ago? How can you have a five or six year overview of the game when you have been playing for a month.

Samberg
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Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:33 pm
Adeline (113719515) wrote:Samberg, did you really just join the game a month ago? How can you have a five or six year overview of the game when you have been playing for a month.



Because....I'm smart ;)

Adeline
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Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:35 pm
No one ever said your weren't but that does not really answer my question and you know that.

deactivated
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Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:37 pm
Samberg (185737325) wrote:
Adeline (113719515) wrote:Samberg, did you really just join the game a month ago? How can you have a five or six year overview of the game when you have been playing for a month.



Because....I'm smart ;)


Doesn't exactly take intelligence to experience the game for what it has been over the years.

Pete
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Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:39 pm
Adeline (113719515) wrote:Pete, I do realize that you believe re-releasing stuff is a good idea for the economy. I just don't believe it would help. It didn't help when Z did it.
What will help the economy is people spending some of their own money . i do not believe this game can survive if people do not buy yocash. People use re-releasing to ultimately bolster their income when they sell the re-released stuff. I saw it happen. I am watching it happen right now.
Big V will put new items and clothing up for sale. People will buy yocash and others will buy yocash items from them and so on and so forth. We need to allow that process to take place.
I find it interesting that we are seeing more and more of this type of thread as we get closer to what might be a release of new goods. People have to realize they cannot continue playing this game on the backs of the rest of us. They have to do something other than buy and sell high priced goods in order to get what they want of new stuff.
Many people bought f/g items and while they paid less than what the real things would cost, they are stuck with that stuff and cannot resell it. They are looking for a way to make a quick buck. To them I say don't try to make the rest of us who did not do that pay for your mistakes.



I agree with you on the point that people need to buy yocash to help bvg make a success of this game and for them to gain back what they spent saving this game and to pay salaries to the people that they hired to work on yoville who are doing a great job so far. I think it would really suck if it turned out to be a waste of their time and money if the game failed. That's why I think as a community we need to make some sacrifices if necessary to ensure that the game succeeds, as bvg sacrificed their war chest for this community.

The reason re-releases didn't make a difference when Zynga did it, is because they weren't re-released permanently. If they were put back into the game permanently in a megastore it would prevent prices climbing again as people would be able to buy items from store and not from people looking to bolster their income by selling at crazy prices. When I talk about re-releases I don't mean collectibles coming back, they were always items that were available for a limited time and never again, hence the name collectibles. Collectibles are the items that are meant to gain in value, not bowls of strawberries.

If BVG items are put into the game and then taken back out, it would allow for a new era of items to gain in value, items that would help BVG succeed, but re-releases would go some way to level out the yoconomy and bring back a bit of sanity to the prices people charge.

Logan
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Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:40 pm
People are asking for the 08/09 themes, but what good would that do for BVG?

Most of the items back then were coins, and almost all of the items in 08 were coins, and all the costumes were coins in 08.

They would be making zero money. JMO

Adeline
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Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:42 pm
I agree with you that we all need to make an effort but the effort I am speaking of is not the one you are a proponent of. I know YoWorld people can work together. We helped save this game.
I think we should be united against price jacking and stop spending until Big V brings their new release out. That is what I want to see.
And stop the welfare to the beggars! There can be nothing lost in waiting to see what happens when the new releases come out.

JDS7744 xxsMxx
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Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:46 pm
Hi pete

My name is JDS . I just like to post to a reply I made to a similar but not the same thing in another post. This is just my view I am not a hater:

I just like to start by saying not all us rich people out here are price jacking and raising prices, some of us are here to have fun. I been playing since 08 and try to help out people who don't have as much coins when I can but it is also a 2 way street because people trying to beg for money when you check there badge and they spent 100 thousand coins doesn't help you point. I know where you coming from as we all stared from the bottom and trying to work out way up. I put this to you if you rerelease all the items like as been suggested on the forum recently it wouldn't help any one as no would make any coin as every one would be worse off as once every one has it , it would never make them any coins. I think 08 costumes and 08 collectables should stay as it is as it is so us rich have way to make money still and if they want to rerelease any thing maybe they should look at unreleased items eg lime grime jeans ,whites jeans vegas urinal and certain rich people I seen trying to price jack which is why peole have lots of coins and also which is why people hate us rich people. Understand I am not a hater just making my point of view known

Adeline
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Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:48 pm
I think JDS has a good point.

dv
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Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:52 pm
I can't believe I'm even going to engage in this conversation for like.. the 400th time.

Whatever makes more money for BVG, that's what's gonna happen. If re-releasing themes makes everyone broke, requiring everyone to purchase YoCash to acquire *newly* released items, then they're gonna release them, regardless of who complains.

If re-releasing will hurt their bottom line, they won't. I'm sure they have more expertise in deciding which of those two will give them (THEM, not US, cause regardless of how much they love you, they all have bills and families to support) a better outcome.

Willow
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Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:53 pm
JDS (4210983) wrote:Hi pete

My name is JDS . I just like to post to a reply I made to a similar but not the same thing in another post. This is just my view I not a hater:

I just like to start by saying not all us rich people out here are price jacking and raising prices, some of us are here to have fun. I been playing since 08 and try to help out people who don't have as much coins when I can but it is also a 2 way street because people trying to beg for money when you check there badge and they spent 100 thousand coins doesn't help you point. I know where you coming from as we all stared from the bottom and trying to work out way up. I put this to you if you rerelease all the items like as been suggested on the forum recently it wouldn't help any one as no would make any coin as every one would be worse off as once every one has it , it would never make them any coins. I think 08 costumes and 08 collectables should stay as it is as it is so us rich have way to make money still and if they want to rerelease any thing maybe they should look at unreleased items eg lime grime jeans ,whites jeans vegas urinal and certain rich people I seen trying to price jack which is why peole have lots of coins and also which is why people hate us rich people. Understand I am not a hater just making my point of view known


Well said...and I like helping new people out too. The ones that I help out are the ones that are trying by having a sale. As a matter of fact the other day I went to a new persons sale and bought some things off her to help her out and gave her a gift too. And funny thing is when I got there. There was a guy there doing the same thing as I. And guess what I realized? he's here from the forums. I thought that was pretty cool lol

IrishBeach
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Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:56 pm
Pete (2679242) wrote:I agree with you on the point that people need to buy yocash to help bvg make a success of this game and for them to gain back what they spent saving this game and to pay salaries to the people that they hired to work on yoville who are doing a great job so far. I think it would really suck if it turned out to be a waste of their time and money if the game failed. That's why I think as a community we need to make some sacrifices if necessary to ensure that the game succeeds, as bvg sacrificed their war chest for this community.

The reason re-releases didn't make a difference when Zynga did it, is because they weren't re-released permanently. If they were put back into the game permanently in a megastore it would prevent prices climbing again as people would be able to buy items from store and not from people looking to bolster their income by selling at crazy prices. When I talk about re-releases I don't mean collectibles coming back, they were always items that were available for a limited time and never again, hence the name collectibles. Collectibles are the items that are meant to gain in value, not bowls of strawberries.

If BVG items are put into the game and then taken back out, it would allow for a new era of items to gain in value, items that would help BVG succeed, but re-releases would go some way to level out the yoconomy and bring back a bit of sanity to the prices people charge.


Your logic and grasp of economics are solid. But as long as people feel strongly about the apparent caste system they've created and their place within it above those they deem as welfare recipients, cheap or below them in any other way, they'll never come around to accepting what's best for the community because it may go against what's best for *them*.

This horse is beyond a dead bloody pulp. Lol.

dv
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Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:57 pm
Sooz (112570178) wrote:
Pete (2679242) wrote:I agree with you on the point that people need to buy yocash to help bvg make a success of this game and for them to gain back what they spent saving this game and to pay salaries to the people that they hired to work on yoville who are doing a great job so far. I think it would really suck if it turned out to be a waste of their time and money if the game failed. That's why I think as a community we need to make some sacrifices if necessary to ensure that the game succeeds, as bvg sacrificed their war chest for this community.

The reason re-releases didn't make a difference when Zynga did it, is because they weren't re-released permanently. If they were put back into the game permanently in a megastore it would prevent prices climbing again as people would be able to buy items from store and not from people looking to bolster their income by selling at crazy prices. When I talk about re-releases I don't mean collectibles coming back, they were always items that were available for a limited time and never again, hence the name collectibles. Collectibles are the items that are meant to gain in value, not bowls of strawberries.

If BVG items are put into the game and then taken back out, it would allow for a new era of items to gain in value, items that would help BVG succeed, but re-releases would go some way to level out the yoconomy and bring back a bit of sanity to the prices people charge.


Your logic and grasp of economics are solid. But as long as people feel strongly about the apparent caste system they've created and their place within it above those they deem as welfare recipients, cheap or below them in any other way, they'll never come around to accepting what's best for the community because it may go against what's best for *them*.

This horse is beyond a dead bloody pulp. Lol.


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Pete
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Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:11 pm
JDS (4210983) wrote:Hi pete

My name is JDS . I just like to post to a reply I made to a similar but not the same thing in another post. This is just my view I am not a hater:

I just like to start by saying not all us rich people out here are price jacking and raising prices, some of us are here to have fun. I been playing since 08 and try to help out people who don't have as much coins when I can but it is also a 2 way street because people trying to beg for money when you check there badge and they spent 100 thousand coins doesn't help you point.

I know where you coming from as we all stared from the bottom and trying to work out way up. I put this to you if you rerelease all the items like as been suggested on the forum recently it wouldn't help any one as no would make any coin as every one would be worse off as once every one has it , it would never make them any coins.

I think 08 costumes and 08 collectables should stay as it is as it is so us rich have way to make money still and if they want to rerelease any thing maybe they should look at unreleased items eg lime grime jeans ,whites jeans vegas urinal and certain rich people I seen trying to price jack which is why peole have lots of coins and also which is why people hate us rich people. Understand I am not a hater just making my point of view known



Hey JDS

I don't take people with different views to mine as haters, differing opinions make for healthy debate ;) :)

I realize that the whole re-release debate is somewhat complicated, there are many aspects to this situation. People begging while they have spent 100k is telling, but in today's yoconomy 100k wont even get them a bowl of strawberries if you go by the average price, so it's no wonder you get beggars as everything is so expensive.

If all is re-released permanently then you are right, people won't make coins of old Zynga items, but they could start making coins off BVG made items if BVG made items are removed from the store after a period of time. There would be a period of adjustment if there were to be re-releases as prices would fluctuate as the yoconomy adjusts to the new economic climate. People are adaptable creatures and many would soon find a way to start making coins again.

When I talk about re-releasing I do not include collectibles, from 08 or any year. Collectibles are just that, items that are rare and should gain in value, never to be released again, as far as I know, pink and blue rets are clothing collectibles and should not be released ever. General themes however are fair game. As far as the 08 costumes go I would say that the 08's that were re-released should be again, but a compromise could be reached and that the 08's that were never re-released can remain that way, thus allowing those that do own them to be safe in the knowledge that they will not re-enter the game.

As far as short term and unreleased items go, I'm all for those being put into the game as people that own those particular items always knew there was a risk in buying those items, often under suspicious circumstances.

It's good that people make their point of view known, if bvg was to ever read threads like this it would be good for them to be able to read many points of view so they could make decisions that is in the best interest of the game while also taking the interests of the community into account. Differing opinions allow them to get a more balanced view instead of just one particular side's view.

Di
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Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:23 pm
Robot (185180932) wrote:What would be the point of re-releases? The game is in new hands of a company that is starting fresh. New designers, new everything, etc. :ugeek:


I have to agree. A way to boost the game is to release new GREAT things and get people excited again with collecting and decorating. I would love fresh everything to see and enjoy. An updated town, new homes, new pets, the list goes on!

Adeline
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Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:25 pm
VIP 08 and 09 items, and 08 costumes and collectibles should not be re-released. There are many other themes that could return. Many would love the penthouse and heart house. These are not things people have made big bucks on. I really want new things from Big V. I bet they are a very talented group of people. Remember Greg made this game in a week!

Soul Glo
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Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:30 pm
I like re-releases the prices are ridiculous
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