Autumn Glory (105171200) wrote:Here's a question.....do you think the yocash rate will ever drop below 10k to 1? If so, why?

It actually can, due to the way new items are being priced.

Samberg (185737325) wrote:

Hot Rod (126579776) wrote:New items players want that are priced right fix everything.

And what's priced right to a player base that has literally billions of coins/items they can get to if need be?

Serious question.

Someone has to buy yo cash to get the item to trade for those billions. Once the billionaire has the 50 new chairs he or she is after, they are out of the demand curve. Maybe there are 50 or 100 of them or more? IDK. But at some point, they have what they were after and thier coins are spread among many dealers. Then reality hits. The people paying 50 to 1 no longer show up. Then the yo cash sellers can take the 20 to 1 or not. Or the players who want can buy yo cash.

I'm also surprised how many accounts just 'showed up' restored with all thier coins and crap. If BVG activated accounts with 10,000 yo cash, they are dumber than bricks thinking that yo cash was legit. I doubt these accounts have huge yo cash amounts.

You are making very legit points. BVG better listen closely. We are talking seriously about the food on their table. They are in the short term limelight right now. They will have to earn a longer stay.

Anthony (102235402) wrote:Alright, this may seem crazy, but lets say the new items continue being priced as they are, what happens to the coins you spend after you buy something? They vanish.

More and more people buy these new items, that over time, the overall amount of coins in the game will decrease, because of these higher prices in newer coin items. The result? Many will have no choice, but to begin selling at lower prices, because in a not so distant future, the average YoWorlder will no longer have even 1m coins on them, especially if the amount of new players outnumber the older ones.

Now sure, more and more coins are added into the game, with daily log ins, and clocking in at the factory, but is that enough? Daily, you can make lets say a maximum of 3000 coins? But a sweater, in stores now costs 9k.

I mean, I am no economist, and this may not make sense, to you, or it may not even play out like this, but the way I look at it, this might work out like so.

Feel free to call me crazy now.

You are not crazy, buddy, but you are missing one very important piece of the puzzle which hasn't been determined yet: What does BVG have in store for earning coins in the future...and what will the potential level of earnings be? This is critical and until we know, we can't really speculate on the points you've raised here.

Autumn Glory (105171200) wrote:Here's a question.....do you think the yocash rate will ever drop below 10k to 1? If so, why?

with 5% of the players buying yocash, and finding out that it's only 5% ... the rates will rise more....

Anthony (102235402) wrote:

Samberg (185737325) wrote:

Hot Rod (126579776) wrote:New items players want that are priced right fix everything.

And what's priced right to a player base that has literally billions of coins/items they can get to if need be?

Serious question.

Alright, this may seem crazy, but lets say the new items continue being priced as they are, what happens to the coins you spend after you buy something? They vanish.

More and more people buy these new items, that over time, the overall amount of coins in the game will decrease, because of these higher prices in newer coin items. The result? Many will have no choice, but to begin selling at lower prices, because in a not so distant future, the average YoWorlder will no longer have even 1m coins on them, especially if the amount of new players outnumber the older ones.

Now sure, more and more coins are added into the game, with daily log ins, and clocking in at the factory, but is that enough? Daily, you can make lets say a maximum of 3000 coins? But a sweater, in stores now costs 9k.

I mean, I am no economist, and this may not make sense, to you, or it may not even play out like this, but the way I look at it, this might work out like so.

Feel free to call me crazy now.

Ok, I have 11m coins just sitting around...you know how long it would take to deplete my coins?

I'm sure I'm not the only person who has 10+ million and I'm sure there are others who have 100+ million.

9k is a drop in the bucket. Or less.

I think there has to be a raise for working at the factory. Even though everyone loved the spin the wheel to many people took advantage of it with alts.

They are pricing things so that some color of items are very cheap compared to other colors of items, that really helps new starters. Not everyone has to buy the color that is yc or 10K when there is one that is 350c. I don't like that kind of pricing because it makes it hard to remember how much each different color is worth but that is just the way it is.

I'm not to happy to hear that hackers and coin sellers were reinstated with their zillions of coins if that is the case ... well guess it will eventually trickle down, better for them to just be gone.

I don't think the economy is all that bad. Most important thing at this time I think is to fix it so AH doesn't take our items or coins with nothing in return and that trades aren't messed up also with items and coins disappearing. I'm thinking that first it's a problem when they update the game, I think there is like a switch they have to do first that they don't know about to turn off trades and bidding before they update. Also I think maybe another problem is server overload that causes items and coins to disappear.

I don't think it ever will......I think dealers got a taste for huge rates and now if people didn't have the coins, they would no longer be willing to fork out real cash, which would hurt the game big time.

Samberg (185737325) wrote:

Autumn Glory (105171200) wrote:Here's a question.....do you think the yocash rate will ever drop below 10k to 1? If so, why?

Yes. If all the coins in the game were wiped to 0.

Other than that? No.

I don't even know why anyone would yocash deal in today's game, it's pointless and a waste of peoples real money.

As long as people played during mini park, playhouse, flapper, enchanted china, fairytale fantasy and bought yocash items, they had no need to deal today.

Take a 2yc unicorn from FF and sell it for 1m coins, rinse repeat...why go out and buy 100yc to make 3m or so when you could sell the equivalent of 6yc for the same purpose?

Problem there is most people didn't buy tons of those 2yc unicorns to sell later. Most people didn't overbuy the yc items in those themes to sell later, because most people were starting to believe there wasn't going to be a later.

Flatch Ulater MYP (13247207) wrote:

Autumn Glory (105171200) wrote:Here's a question.....do you think the yocash rate will ever drop below 10k to 1? If so, why?

with 5% of the players buying yocash, and finding out that it's only 5% ... the rates will rise more....

Exactly, I think by Greg mentioning that only 5% of the players are buying Yocash, some will use that info to raise the value of their service.

Rain (110294179) wrote:

Anthony (102235402) wrote:Alright, this may seem crazy, but lets say the new items continue being priced as they are, what happens to the coins you spend after you buy something? They vanish.

More and more people buy these new items, that over time, the overall amount of coins in the game will decrease, because of these higher prices in newer coin items. The result? Many will have no choice, but to begin selling at lower prices, because in a not so distant future, the average YoWorlder will no longer have even 1m coins on them, especially if the amount of new players outnumber the older ones.

Now sure, more and more coins are added into the game, with daily log ins, and clocking in at the factory, but is that enough? Daily, you can make lets say a maximum of 3000 coins? But a sweater, in stores now costs 9k.

I mean, I am no economist, and this may not make sense, to you, or it may not even play out like this, but the way I look at it, this might work out like so.

Feel free to call me crazy now.

You are not crazy, buddy, but you are missing one very important piece of the puzzle which hasn't been determined yet: What does BVG have in store for earning coins in the future...and what will the potential level of earnings be? This is critical and until we know, we can't really speculate on the points you've raised here.

You sir, are in fact correct, we don't yet know this piece of the puzzle, but if what I am explaining, is part of BVG's plan, we can already confirm, that whatever new YoCoin-earning method they release, they are gonna make sure, it fits in, and does not break this goal.

We also have to take into consideration, that YoCoins hairs, AND accessories, might now be a regular thing, in YoWorld. More YoCoin items to help slash down at the large amount of YoCoins in the game, if you will.

And the solution to the problem isn't adding more coins into the economy.

Samberg (185737325) wrote:
Ok, I have 11m coins just sitting around...you know how long it would take to deplete my coins?

I'm sure I'm not the only person who has 10+ million and I'm sure there are others who have 100+ million.

9k is a drop in the bucket. Or less.

Well, sure, it could take a while, but little things, can release big results.

We also have to remember, YoCoin hairs and Accessories, might now be a regular thing in the game, so depending on the hair, that's also a 25k (or more) drop into the bucket.

Oh, and you might not be dropping that 25k (or more) into the bucket once, it might happen more often if one decides to buy many new items.

Autumn Glory (105171200) wrote:Exactly, I think by Greg mentioning that only 5% of the players are buying Yocash, some will use that info to raise the value of their service.

And I'm sorry, but good for them. If you want YoCash items, you have two options: 1. Buy YoCash or 2. Pay the rates and keep the YoCash dealers in business. Either way, it's good for BVG and they get the support they need. Sorry be harsh.

Oh, there is a third option: 3. Do without the item.

Sorry I know this seems super harsh to some, but it's the reality of the situation.

Samberg (185737325) wrote:And the solution to the problem isn't adding more coins into the economy.

it has to be done, new players have no chance. halloween is in 3 months players will need the coinage

Autumn Glory (105171200) wrote:

Flatch Ulater MYP (13247207) wrote:

Autumn Glory (105171200) wrote:Here's a question.....do you think the yocash rate will ever drop below 10k to 1? If so, why?

with 5% of the players buying yocash, and finding out that it's only 5% ... the rates will rise more....

Exactly, I think by Greg mentioning that only 5% of the players are buying Yocash, some will use that info to raise the value of their service.

yes, and rightfully so...

Ok, I have We also have to remember, YoCoin hairs and Accessories, might now be a regular thing in the game, so depending on the hair, that's also a 25k (or more) drop into the bucket.
It would still take a while to decrease his 11m with 25k hairs.

Let's say that theres a theme 4 hairs each 25k, clothing totalled up is 100k. Thats 200k each theme, 5 themes 1M. Plus there are others with way more ...

tink (185739646) wrote:

Samberg (185737325) wrote:And the solution to the problem isn't adding more coins into the economy.

it has to be done, new players have no chance. halloween is in 3 months players will need the coinage

All adding more coins into the economy does is make older items even more unobtainable for newer players and pads the older players already bloated coin amounts.

Samberg (185737325) wrote:

tink (185739646) wrote:

Samberg (185737325) wrote:And the solution to the problem isn't adding more coins into the economy.

it has to be done, new players have no chance. halloween is in 3 months players will need the coinage

All adding more coins into the economy does is make older items even more unobtainable for newer players and pads the older players already bloated coin amounts.

I say that they give us each an X amount, and whatever people choose to do with it, then so be it.

Richy (3429282) wrote:Ok, I have We also have to remember, YoCoin hairs and Accessories, might now be a regular thing in the game, so depending on the hair, that's also a 25k (or more) drop into the bucket.
It would still take a while to decrease his 11m with 25k hairs.

Let's say that theres a theme 4 hairs each 25k, clothing totalled up is 100k. Thats 200k each theme, 5 themes 1M. Plus there are others with way more ...

Indeed, even if its just one YoCoin hair per theme, it may snowball.

Rain (110294179) wrote:

Autumn Glory (105171200) wrote:Exactly, I think by Greg mentioning that only 5% of the players are buying Yocash, some will use that info to raise the value of their service.

And I'm sorry, but good for them. If you want YoCash items, you have two options: 1. Buy YoCash or 2. Pay the rates and keep the YoCash dealers in business. Either way, it's good for BVG and they get the support they need. Sorry be harsh.

Oh, there is a third option: 3. Do without the item.

Sorry I know this seems super harsh to some, but it's the reality of the situation.

I hope that was a generic "you" I buy my own yocash Other than that, I agree completely. I don't think it is harsh at all. Those are the options available. I think the only ones who would see it as harsh are the players who must have everything in the game. I think the reason why many players are satisfied is because we realize that we don't need everything to enjoy the game.