Willow (13350872) wrote:

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:

Willow (13350872) wrote:If they do one re-release. That's all it would take to destroy the game for collectors because we would never be able to trust again. There would always be that wonder of what they'd re-release next. Plus one re-release wouldn't make people happy because then they'd want more. That's exactly what happened when zynga owned the game and that is part of why the game died.

No it wouldn't willow. Themes have been released in the past and it didn't destroy the game at all. It might have made some mad but it didn't destroy the game.

Yes it was part of what destroyed the game. Maybe some didn't see it but many of us did. A lot of the big spenders left when they re-released.

NO it was not Willow... Hackers, Glitches, and general inability of players to actually play the game without being harassed at events, what killed this game not re-releases. When I started in 2009 they had over 16 million daily players, by 2012 the number went down to just over 3 million, and guess what hon..... they did not start with re-releases until July of 2013, when daily player count was already below a million players.
So tell me again what killed this game?

Robot (185180932) wrote:

TeddyP I N K (110813986) wrote:I think most players are back now bc of BVG having the game under control.

Some people were bitter about re-releases and there were many of us that were happy about it. I know a lot of folks that came back just bc of the re-relesases too ~

I'm just following it bc it's like a trainwreck and can't help myself and if the thread was so invalid, why aren't u in bed

LOL. I am in bed.

lol o ok then! Gnite to u! <3

^ No that was going on since begining of 09 if not 08, sorry Z was just either lazy or had no one experienced in their crew to stop it, funny how BVG did it in under 3 weeks

Them 16m players, half was alts and a lot had 3+.....good grief

TheGeneral(VaultKeeper) (14397783) wrote:^ No that was going on since begining of 09 if not 08, sorry Z was just either lazy or had no one experienced in their crew to stop it, funny how BVG did it in under 3 weeks

Them 16m players, half was alts and a lot had 3+.....good grief

I am not sure what you are trying to say, but, re-releases is NOT what killed this game. What I am saying, this game was dying long before any re-releases.

Karma YED (167876742) wrote: (13350872)"]

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:

Willow (13350872) wrote:If they do one re-release. That's all it would take to destroy the game for collectors because we would never be able to trust again. There would always be that wonder of what they'd re-release next. Plus one re-release wouldn't make people happy because then they'd want more. That's exactly what happened when zynga owned the game and that is part of why the game died.

No it wouldn't willow. Themes have been released in the past and it didn't destroy the game at all. It might have made some mad but it didn't destroy the game.

Yes it was part of what destroyed the game. Maybe some didn't see it but many of us did. A lot of the big spenders left when they re-released.

NO it was not Willow... Hackers, Glitches, and general inability of players to actually play the game without being harassed at events, what killed this game not re-releases. When I started in 2009 they had over 16 million daily players, by 2012 the number went down to just over 3 million, and guess what hon..... they did not start with re-releases until July of 2013, when daily player count was already below a million players.
So tell me again what killed this game? [/quote]

YES it was Karma.

Karma YED (167876742) wrote:

TheGeneral(VaultKeeper) (14397783) wrote:^ No that was going on since begining of 09 if not 08, sorry Z was just either lazy or had no one experienced in their crew to stop it, funny how BVG did it in under 3 weeks

Them 16m players, half was alts and a lot had 3+.....good grief

I am not sure what you are trying to say, but, re-releases is NOT what killed this game. What I am saying, this game was dying long before any re-releases.

Yeah Zynga killed their own game, plain and simple....and the re releases were just a cash grab and NOT to make anyone happy by making them think they were doing it for the people of yo. It was robbery.

But it did push away "a lot" of players.

Karma YED (167876742) wrote:

TheGeneral(VaultKeeper) (14397783) wrote:^ No that was going on since begining of 09 if not 08, sorry Z was just either lazy or had no one experienced in their crew to stop it, funny how BVG did it in under 3 weeks

Them 16m players, half was alts and a lot had 3+.....good grief

I am not sure what you are trying to say, but, re-releases is NOT what killed this game. What I am saying, this game was dying long before any re-releases.

Also who's to say if the game was stable at that point in time and not going to be shut down by Z, would they have re released stuff? Really no one knows the answer because everyone was blind sided from many different angles.

They just wanted a small profit before closing.

Karma YED (167876742) wrote:

TheGeneral(VaultKeeper) (14397783) wrote:^ No that was going on since begining of 09 if not 08, sorry Z was just either lazy or had no one experienced in their crew to stop it, funny how BVG did it in under 3 weeks

Them 16m players, half was alts and a lot had 3+.....good grief

I am not sure what you are trying to say, but, re-releases is NOT what killed this game. What I am saying, this game was dying long before any re-releases.

Truth to this ^^^

To say that all the players were unhappy about re-releases is untrue. Some were very pleased ... like myself and im an 09 player..Amber is 08 ...I mean if anyone has a lot of collectibles, costumes, etc... it is surely us and i don't personally care if there's a re-release I think bc YO was established as a community now, much more than just a game.. I am a forever YoWorldlian, Yoviking or Yovillan ...that's what Im talkin about xD

I'm with Willow and The General 100%...re-releases are a huge part of what destroyed the game for paying customers and they made many more people angry than happy. Zynga buried the game on purpose and they did not give a crap about their customers...every move they made, in the last year especially, was only to drive more and more people away so they could say it was not sustainable. I am not going to debate it any further because I can only continue to repeat the same things over and over. My opinion is shared by many....I have dozens of friends who have moved on from Yo and will not return because of it and they were all big money customers who spent and traded and saved for years to spend millions on items that others walked in and got for next to nothing in comparison. I have met countless people in the past few weeks who have as many if not more friends who left for the same reasons. I will be happy to see the ghost themes disappear completely and watch the game flourish with BVG designs as they come into play. I am betting BVG is going to see they had a great weekend and we are just getting started. The most important thing is that they have put out the trash as was needed and despite the whiners, complainers, and critics I think they are doing and will continue to do a fabulous job. Hugz and junk to all.....this is all I have to say about it.

If there is one thing I know for sure, rereleases weren't the reason of zynga's failure. Right opposite, rereleases were their last spark of hope when they had already gone down hill and hit the ground. But they were too late. So they just used timers to be able to grab max cash they can before they announce the closure.

Veronica (122961678) wrote:If there is one thing I know for sure, rereleases weren't the reason of zynga's failure. Right opposite, rereleases were their last spark of hope when they had already gone down hill and hit the ground. But they were too late. So they just used timers to be able to grab max cash they can before they announce the closure.

Yeah the reason why Z failed was because of poor costumer service and the company really didn't care were the game went. BVG has taken care of things in 3 months when zynga never did for the last 4 years or 5. The rereleases were planned because the game was closing and no one really knew that the game was gonna end. The rereleases was basically planned pre closing down of the game.


But rereleases won't help this game. It will just make older players be mad quit the game. Some of these people who want rereleases want a profit in buying these items.some of them think if a rerelease will happen they will buy multiple items that are rare and expensive thinking that they will make a profit. When it will just make the item worthless. Someone posted a screenshot of his trade in a trading center the other day and it showed that he had 11 of those Gary shiny pants in his inventory and other items that just got released was 1 or 2. He proabably thought since these pants that got back in the store would be rare again. But basically he just has 10 pants that will mostly be worthless. Rereleases only help new players. It damages the older players profit and good. Not really fair to the players that have been here the longest. The only thing that comes out of rereleases is to benefit new players so they could have items very easily when older players had to save for awhile to buy these items. Not very balanced in my opinion

I voted no and I am not for rereleases, however I don't believe the rereleases was what ruined the game in the past. I think it was because of hackers and coin sellers that the game was ruined. I also think that because BVG has said it isn't there plan to do this (rerelease) it would be a trust issue if they just up and did it.

I don't know if it has been stated already because I don't have time tonight to go thru all 23 pages of comments, but I don't think it would be fair to re-release the ghost themes.

I am sorry, but if you didn't endure the grueling game play of Zynga's final year, you don't deserve to have those items. We muddled thru the constant themes and timers, the bottom dropping out on our stash of Mafia, Elite, Groovy, etc. items, the excessive lag and broken chat, broken buddy lists, I could go on and on. Chalk it up as a loss to you and try to find the items in the auctions and events.

Personally, I can't wait for them to clean up the stores, but I know they have their list of priorities and they will get to it in due time. I totally appreciate everything that BVG has done for us already.

I also think that they should continue to release the unreleased items. (They always were a risk to own, I won't beat that dead horse here.)

GoldenMikeyone (178293069) wrote:

Veronica (122961678) wrote:If there is one thing I know for sure, rereleases weren't the reason of zynga's failure. Right opposite, rereleases were their last spark of hope when they had already gone down hill and hit the ground. But they were too late. So they just used timers to be able to grab max cash they can before they announce the closure.

Yeah the reason why Z failed was because of poor costumer service and the company really didn't care were the game went. BVG has taken care of things in 3 months when zynga never did for the last 4 years or 5. The rereleases were planned because the game was closing and no one really knew that the game was gonna end. The rereleases was basically planned pre closing down of the game.


But rereleases won't help this game. It will just make older players be mad quit the game. Some of these people who want rereleases want a profit in buying these items.some of them think if a rerelease will happen they will buy multiple items that are rare and expensive thinking that they will make a profit. When it will just make the item worthless. Someone posted a screenshot of his trade in a trading center the other day and it showed that he had 11 of those Gary shiny pants in his inventory and other items that just got released was 1 or 2. He proabably thought since these pants that got back in the store would be rare again. But basically he just has 10 pants that will mostly be worthless. Rereleases only help new players. It damages the older players profit and good. Not really fair to the players that have been here the longest. The only thing that comes out of rereleases is to benefit new players so they could have items very easily when older players had to save for awhile to buy these items. Not very balanced in my opinion

Lets take those jay fur boots for example. Store price 1k, after they expired people ask 2m for them.
Now can you please tell me
-how is this fair
-how is it ''fun'' / ''enjoyable'' to overpay or overcharge for items.
-why do we need such a nonsense hardship in this game

And you are so wrong about those who say yes to unlocking themes. They are the ones who dont care about item value nor profit. They are the ones who want to enjoy the game itself without worrying about hoarding, reselling, chasing stuff. All they want is to decorate and dress up in peace.

Why does everything have to be rare? Those who say yes to rereleases don't want the stuff to be removed back again. They want them to stay in stores to be used anytime needed.

What I feel like is the opposite of what you said actually. I think most of those who dont want rereleases are purely after profit. So what do theu do with all those coins? Let me say, selling cheaply bought items for outrageous prices provide them bulk coins so that they dont have to spend money to buy their own yc and just pay some crazy rates to yc dealers. If items dont expire or get rereleased, from where they can get huge amount of coins to afford yc dealers' rates? Right?

I dont know.... I just dont understand how is it fun not being able to reach a 1k item from stores and paying an arm and a kidney for it after some long search and struggle on trading forums and at events. Who enjoys that? and how? and why? I honestly dont get it. Getting the stuff you want from the store is already hard enough.

ROBYN cOOnie (109762752) wrote:
I am sorry, but if you didn't endure the grueling game play of Zynga's final year, you don't deserve to have those items. We muddled thru the constant themes and timers, the bottom dropping out on our stash of Mafia, Elite, Groovy, etc. items, the excessive lag and broken chat, broken buddy lists, I could go on and on.

I have to consider this as a very unlucky statement. I have no obligation or requirement to bear with a bad company's broken entertainment product to be able to 'deserve' any feature or content of it neither before nor after it finally gets sold to another company.

ROBYN cOOnie (109762752) wrote:I am sorry, but if you didn't endure the grueling game play of Zynga's final year, you don't deserve to have those items.

WOW, just WOW

It's like saying "I have a debilitating diseases, I endure the pain .... but because you don't have it .... you don't "deserve" to be happy either".

TIKA 74 (109583622) wrote:I miss a lot of those themes, because I stopped playing the game when it all started to go down hill.. So yea, I would like to be able to buy them!!

Couldn't have said it better myself lol

everyone loves to blame someone or something else, for the failing of zynga.. well... for those that wore limes, menorahs.. or have 4 celtic crosses on pink stages, sitting on scifi seats... those people killed the game.. the players that supported the hackers... they knew fully what was going on.. and as long as they got theirs, they were happy.. now they come here, claiming innocence and unknowing LOL....

hackers, and those that bought their wares, they killed the game...

releases never killed the game... after all the game has been through,, we all still here...

they could start a new currency, leaving ours useless... and the players would still play... nobody will leave!!! players have been hacked.. they came back!!!!

the game will live till bvg kills it or has enough of it... but, the players... they be playing the game for sure!!! sad, but true! yocrack!

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:

Willow (13350872) wrote:
Greg already did see the light. It's other people that can't seem to see it.

Apparently you have not read Gregs exact words. Greg is the owner not Gary. Also there are loop holes in Garys statement as well as Gregs. Greg said he couldn't see rereleasing them and Gary made the comment before hearing the pros to having them open.

lol... the stuff will never be released. ..regardless of pros and cons...

do you think they don't talk with people off the forum??? lol.. come on... you have to know that ppl message them, ppl talk with them.. I truly hope you do not think they are only relying on forum posts for information... lol

I bet, they don't even read 10% the crap ppl post in here ... they have a business to run. things to sell....

I really do not bother that new players can buy in the store and I have issues, because unlike me joy, I can not be selfish and much less in a game.