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Lily ofTheValley
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Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:18 am
A big problem that I've observed online is because of AI. The use of it has stirred the pot around images. Unfortunately, I think it's too gray of an area for anyone to resolve. They couldn't possibly police all the images that are similar to an artist's work but different enough to be ok to use. The lines are blurred big time and now the price is coming due. I'd love to know how they are going to resolve the Pandora's Box of Artificial Intelligence. They are going to try though. With the amount of people even playing this game anymore I'm really surprised that BVG was targeted unless all gaming sites received some kind of stern warning. That might result in a drastic measure like we just experienced. Just a thought, have no idea. This decision didn't just come out of nowhere though, so who is behind it?

LisaTM
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Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:44 am
Scarlette (2058616) wrote:It doesn't seem like this was an out of the blue decision, so why couldn't you have given everyone a heads up and given everyone time to at least make screenshots of their boards?


Read Stormy Amphitrite's post above yours. If any of those reasons and possible others are the case where it's serious and there's possibly legal stuff involved, they probably didn't have much choice. It would be for the safety of the players and the game.

None of us are happy with this, but if it really is for safety reasons it's better that it was abrupt.

Mizz Libra
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Sun Jun 09, 2024 7:36 am
Just cancelled my VIP subscription. I am done supporting this game financially. Still undecided about whether I want to stick around at all.
Mass punishment is something I have strong negative feelings towards.
Somehow it's not a problem to ban individual players for buying and selling coins,Yocash, and items for real money instead of resorting to discontinuing all trading and gifting features for the entire community.
Furthermore while the coding for the old whiteboards had been done by Zynga, the coding for paint boards was done by BVG. So it would have been up to them to do that in a way to make it possible to wipe out offensive images on those boards, as they created them as a replacement to Zynga's whiteboards.
I am sorry, but this still sounds more like an excuse and easy way out to me, and announcing this without any heads-up to the already greatly decreased player community whatsoever. The poor and last minute communication is the other factor that really bothers me in this situation, and it's by far not the first time of poor communication to the player base.

FriDa
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Sun Jun 09, 2024 7:39 am
THIS IS WRONG! We paid money for the boards and money for the artists that design them. This is the same as us paying money for a couch and you taking it back because someone abused the couch??!! Why do we have to pay the price of others who brake the rules? BVG you are going down the wrong business road. You are also abusing us by stealing what we paid for in your game. I have as of today and after 16 years in this game LOST ALL RESPECT OF YOUR COMPANY!

Sw33tCandy NF2G
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Sun Jun 09, 2024 8:10 am
I thought this may help those who are pissed to understand WHY they may not be discussing it more in detail. We don't know what is happening behind the scenes. This is how it goes when ANY legalities are invalid. And maybe they took action, to avoid any lawsuit. There is WAY more to this then we are aware.

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There was a lot more that I was reading, but I feel this should explain enough. Yes, it's down hearting what has happened to us all, and especially for those of you who have spent many hours and money doing their beautiful rooms that we all have enjoyed, and I hope they get some reimbursement, but once again we may have to be patient that in itself can have legality attached.

This is quoted by Andrew: This is not something that we wanted to do; it is something that we had to do. Again, I can't get into specifics, but wiping boards is something that we were required to do.

L1NKxGFY
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Sun Jun 09, 2024 8:28 am
The picture frame issue never got fixed, so now the paint boards don't work either. Can't collect hotdogs, can't add workers and can't trade free items. The list keeps getting bigger with no end in sight. I know lots of now ex-players who quit because of all of the lack of bug fixes and issues not being fixed. Was a lot better when Zanga owned it.

Mistyfied
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Sun Jun 09, 2024 9:04 am
L1NKxC0RS1CAN (119478795) wrote:The picture frame issue never got fixed, so now the paint boards don't work either. Can't collect hotdogs, can't add workers and can't trade free items. The list keeps getting bigger with no end in sight. I know lots of now ex-players who quit because of all of the lack of bug fixes and issues not being fixed. Was a lot better when Zanga owned it.


frustrating isnt it ...

I can tell you that the frames work for a few but not all - and that frames are facebook codes issue (notice the clear lack of game feed on fb and it's more like those newspapers you find in the states that is full of fiction?? - fb found out that selling promotional space to those trying to influence elections was a bigger money maker then selling us 5 dollar packets of pixels)

I can still collect hotdogs -- I will live broke before I hunt dogs, that said if I see your feed i click it out of habit .... few thousand in coins at the end of the day doesnt make or break play (and it should btw -so what does that say about that feature?)

I think they have pretty much gotten things back up to speed as far as employees, fingers crossed - the Mike's came out to play on Discord yesterday ... I'm now referring to them as the double mint twins, LOL -- they need matching very dorky 1965 clothing LOL -- yes I know wasted effort will never be chosen; but i'm getting a chuckle out of it and that is priceless

Well, no free gift trading -- wow, who would we have to blame for that ... not me, I wouldnt have dreamt in a billion years that it would be ok to alter items using code and then passing them off to my buddies ---- that rest clearly on the players, cant fault them for that in anyway -right?

What we have is in my opinion

a lack of communication in a style that is understood; clearly If some of us get the message but not everyone ...... we have to figure out a way to make it heard - because the info is all out there on the issues you bring up

We also have a culture that feeds on the idea that some are different better or more welcomed then others --- and if you go to a public space and are treated poorly .... well man, that reflects on us not them

Add to it the organized crime element (thinking that players themselves would be smart enough to avoid it clearly wasnt the answer) ... we are seeing huge increases in resale markets because of the coin sellers. (refer back to hot dog issues)

and the reaction of those still trying with their last gaming yoworld breath to destroy our world --- they have made if aggressive and unwelcoming ... their only efforts are for their team's winning with no realization that if you blow up the world - you didnt really win. what you did was take from others what wasnt yours by force.

I bet you have a list of things that you feel BVG can do a better job of, I know I do --- but when I point out things like value is only a value if you allow i to be. In fact, I have been blessed to not really even be attracted to most of the price jacked items .... so i'm able to see it in a different light then maybe someone who has their heart set on something and is heart broken over never being able to obtain it

I think it's silly and obscene; the jacking and the exclusives etc ---- I dont need special items to feel special, better or what ever it is ..... I buy things based on their use and how I can use them. I have spent and i clearly have a passion for this game (that i have quit a number of times over many many different reasons)

Cant we just give BVG a break - give them time --- they might actually in the end realize just what an amazing bunch of supporters WE ALL all of us are.

Mistyfied
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Sun Jun 09, 2024 9:18 am
FriDa (2719650) wrote:THIS IS WRONG! We paid money for the boards and money for the artists that design them. This is the same as us paying money for a couch and you taking it back because someone abused the couch??!! Why do we have to pay the price of others who brake the rules? BVG you are going down the wrong business road. You are also abusing us by stealing what we paid for in your game. I have as of today and after 16 years in this game LOST ALL RESPECT OF YOUR COMPANY!


try to remember as much as you can .. hoping they will compensate you correctly

it's ok to be frustrated, I had a little cry yesterday - because I realize just what amazing part of our world is now gone.

And it was taken from us; but not by BVG I dont feel they had a choice in this

this Frida is where u get to thank those players that have worked endless hours in the pursuit -- that is to pull BVG under water. They broke the rules, were given the correct treatment and the resentment they carry has not endded These players are in other games you play as well - some are good at coding and make honest money in some platforms and in others they simply bend and break the rules.

those who created this mess did it with intent; BVG im sure as we speak are looking for ways to assure legally they are unable to do this again to us (the reasoning behind not really being able to tell us more - they themselves are now in a legal battle and cant)

So know, we all feel your pain. Yoworld has many many great and wonderful people. So you might never meet. their joy is in their homes and their small circle. There use to be alot of people like that; I'm hoping we can create a welcoming culture that see's a return as players life's allow - lets be honest, sometimes real life just gets in the way of a few hours of relaxation

Hang in there ok please, lets give them a chance to try to explain and help us (like me non techy sort of non code person ) understand just why and how we are going to move forward into our 'brave new world'

Captain T
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Sun Jun 09, 2024 9:32 am
Beatrice (178761483) wrote:
FriDa (2719650) wrote:THIS IS WRONG! We paid money for the boards and money for the artists that design them. This is the same as us paying money for a couch and you taking it back because someone abused the couch??!! Why do we have to pay the price of others who brake the rules? BVG you are going down the wrong business road. You are also abusing us by stealing what we paid for in your game. I have as of today and after 16 years in this game LOST ALL RESPECT OF YOUR COMPANY!


try to remember as much as you can .. hoping they will compensate you correctly

it's ok to be frustrated, I had a little cry yesterday - because I realize just what amazing part of our world is now gone.

And it was taken from us; but not by BVG I dont feel they had a choice in this

this Frida is where u get to thank those players that have worked endless hours in the pursuit -- that is to pull BVG under water. They broke the rules, were given the correct treatment and the resentment they carry has not endded These players are in other games you play as well - some are good at coding and make honest money in some platforms and in others they simply bend and break the rules.

those who created this mess did it with intent; BVG im sure as we speak are looking for ways to assure legally they are unable to do this again to us (the reasoning behind not really being able to tell us more - they themselves are now in a legal battle and cant)

So know, we all feel your pain. Yoworld has many many great and wonderful people. So you might never meet. their joy is in their homes and their small circle. There use to be alot of people like that; I'm hoping we can create a welcoming culture that see's a return as players life's allow - lets be honest, sometimes real life just gets in the way of a few hours of relaxation

Hang in there ok please, lets give them a chance to try to explain and help us (like me non techy sort of non code person ) understand just why and how we are going to move forward into our 'brave new world'



It's still skeptical, in my opinion. Paint boards existed a little bit later since BVG took over Yoville from Zynga, when was around maybe 2015-2016. If the misuse of the Paint boards were really critically influential to the community, why did the judiciary entities had to wait around 8-9 years to do such legal action, until June 2024, instead of banning paint boards immediately at that time?

Besides, if this is really a legal decision from the lawyers/judiciary court, BVG should show us the legal letter from the lawyers or even the prohibition from the judiciary court, if such a judgment has already made, telling us directly that this is a legal decision. By doing so, at least they can clarify their decision. We can all understand BVG's dilemma of disabling PB. However, in their explanation on the forum, it was just too vague, and the disabling of PB was all of a sudden. They had not given us any notice or warning before they disabled the PB. They're just making people angry and desperate. More hatred has been made to the people.

I don't know the law in the US coz I'm not a US citizen. Anyone understands US law law, please feel free to correct my thought, if I misunderstand how the lawyers take legal action / judiciary court make judgment in the country.

Mistyfied
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Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:00 am
Captain T (111117986) wrote:
Beatrice (178761483) wrote:
FriDa (2719650) wrote:THIS IS WRONG! We paid money for the boards and money for the artists that design them. This is the same as us paying money for a couch and you taking it back because someone abused the couch??!! Why do we have to pay the price of others who brake the rules? BVG you are going down the wrong business road. You are also abusing us by stealing what we paid for in your game. I have as of today and after 16 years in this game LOST ALL RESPECT OF YOUR COMPANY!


try to remember as much as you can .. hoping they will compensate you correctly

it's ok to be frustrated, I had a little cry yesterday - because I realize just what amazing part of our world is now gone.

And it was taken from us; but not by BVG I dont feel they had a choice in this

this Frida is where u get to thank those players that have worked endless hours in the pursuit -- that is to pull BVG under water. They broke the rules, were given the correct treatment and the resentment they carry has not endded These players are in other games you play as well - some are good at coding and make honest money in some platforms and in others they simply bend and break the rules.

those who created this mess did it with intent; BVG im sure as we speak are looking for ways to assure legally they are unable to do this again to us (the reasoning behind not really being able to tell us more - they themselves are now in a legal battle and cant)

So know, we all feel your pain. Yoworld has many many great and wonderful people. So you might never meet. their joy is in their homes and their small circle. There use to be alot of people like that; I'm hoping we can create a welcoming culture that see's a return as players life's allow - lets be honest, sometimes real life just gets in the way of a few hours of relaxation

Hang in there ok please, lets give them a chance to try to explain and help us (like me non techy sort of non code person ) understand just why and how we are going to move forward into our 'brave new world'



It's still skeptical, in my opinion. Paint boards existed a little bit later since BVG took over Yoville from Zynga, when was around maybe 2015-2016. If the misuse of the Paint boards were really critically influential to the community, why did the judiciary entities had to wait around 8-9 years to do such legal action, until June 2024, instead of banning paint boards immediately at that time?

Besides, if this is really a legal decision from the lawyers/judiciary court, BVG should show us the legal letter from the lawyers or even the prohibition from the judiciary court, if such a judgment has already made, telling us directly that this is a legal decision. By doing so, at least they can clarify their decision. We can all understand BVG's dilemma of disabling PB. However, in their explanation on the forum, it was just too vague, and the disabling of PB was all of a sudden. They had not given us any notice or warning before they disabled the PB. They're just making people angry and desperate. More hatred has been made to the people.

I don't know the law in the US coz I'm not a US citizen. Anyone understands US law law, please feel free to correct my thought, if I misunderstand how the lawyers take legal action / judiciary court make judgment in the country.


BVG I can only guess - was contacted by even possibility the un task force. International law is tricky but yes, you can without a doubt and with recent awarenes so sex trafficking and doxxing laws - completely find yourself in a situation that wouldnt have NOT been possible in 2015. - I sounded an heads up over this when congress decided to hold hearings into the very topic ... in the states, if you reach the us congress You are going to see rapid changes ....as such its my feeling BVG was in fact caught up in this fast pace area of law. However I cant stress enough this was and is a player issue - this was placed on your lap by those that have such a hate for BVG for enforcing their easy to understand tos.

If those of us in the community would stand together; we can create a movement of change -- one where BVG isnt being forced into the doing drastic things to save the game. In the end; they might have to pull the plug anyway -- that removing the boards were not enough. They need age verification, the world expects it. Until then; lets watch what we do. keep the 18+ pg friendly as possible because we know every single kid that falls into this game is going to go straight to that area ... it is human nature -- might as well have a red blinking light LOL on it

:) we wait, and we I'm guessing will wait some more and if we are still very very lucky god himself (ted) will drop in and offer us some encouraging words and thanks for pulling together - and thank us all for the level of understanding and love for the product they offer us.

Robyn VIP
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Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:27 am
Should we hold hands and sing?

Mistyfied
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Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:33 am
Robyn VIP (8132649) wrote:Should we hold hands and sing?


Do yah think it would help?

and would we ever agree on a tune ;) lol

xAx
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Sun Jun 09, 2024 11:31 am
SING WITH ME -->

Abra abracadabra - Just like that and i’m back bruh - Abra abracadabra - Just like that and i’m back bruh

Eminem - Houdini 2024 just released check it out on youtube but becarefull its like a addiction first u hear it you cant stop put it on repeat , but if i was you go check it out it will bring smile on your pretty faces in these days madness :hug: :smug: :D

Lainie
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Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:47 pm
So many comments, so many suppositions, so many experts..... :idea: :haha:
I'll just wait for clarity.
I love this game and i hope what has been done is for the benefit of us all.
my heart goes out to all of you who have lost precious memories - and to those whose rooms have been destroyed.
I'm just waiting to see what the outcome is.
But I'll still be here.
Edited to say that my most favourite art work has gone too. My rooms are wrecked. :sad:

SassyVixen
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Sun Jun 09, 2024 1:02 pm
[b]You people over in Yoworld land..have gone to far..YOU HAVE VIOLATED people's rights if you had to delete some racy boards that is one thing but our boards to our loved ones who passed are gone too...I will consult legal counseling this is gone to far we have spent a fortune to keep YOU people in a job..if you didn't like some graphic boards YOU should have stipulated it in the requirements..From Yoville to Yoworld we've spent a ton of REAL MONEY in this game..if you can't operate a cartoon game then go get a real job...You are driving people crazy with the imbalance of this game..doing as you please whenever it suits your needs..YOU got the hand shaking aat you people when YOU yourself put up those racy decos for Fifty Shades and had to take them down..I will find out my own rights and how they were violated..all my memories of my loved ones who passed are now gone...remember "KARMA" eventually it comes to bite you back...And did you even check those smutty events people run..and what's in those rooms I doubt it..One person had 500 rooms with transports in them for all over the world..and doing inappropriate things in those rooms..DID you even think of checking those out??All we want is to play a simple game and everyday if it's not one thing it's another...I would say have a good day but this is NOT THE DAY to say that...hundreds of IRATE players on here lost a lot...what comes around goes around.. :grr :grr :grr [/b]

Miss T
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Sun Jun 09, 2024 1:13 pm
Lainie (124009750) wrote:So many comments, so many suppositions, so many experts..... :idea: :haha:
I'll just wait for clarity.
I love this game and i hope what has been done is for the benefit of us all.
my heart goes out to all of you who have lost precious memories - and to those whose rooms have been destroyed.
I'm just waiting to see what the outcome is.
But I'll still be here.
Edited to say that my most favourite art work has gone too. My rooms are wrecked. :sad:

POST OF THE DAYI!!! :star: :star: :trophy: :star: :star:

So will I, doll :love: :heart:

Speculation, however well-intentioned, is something that the Vikings have politely asked us to resist the urge to post

Viking Adam has promised a full explanation as soon as he's able to provide one and I see no reason why he wouldn't honour that

I know it sucks, all of my tour maps are now gone so I too have been adversely affected by this, however, I believe they will do whatever they can to find a solution

DANDELIONWINE
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Sun Jun 09, 2024 1:15 pm
Lainie (124009750) wrote:So many comments, so many suppositions, so many experts..... :idea: :haha:
I'll just wait for clarity.
I love this game and i hope what has been done is for the benefit of us all.
my heart goes out to all of you who have lost precious memories - and to those whose rooms have been destroyed.
I'm just waiting to see what the outcome is.
But I'll still be here.
Edited to say that my most favourite art work has gone too. My rooms are wrecked. :sad:




Wise words here
So many experts inserting excuses like they know
Only those inside BVG really know.

I'll wait fir more word from BVG before making excuses or suppostions

Facts matter!!

Lainie
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Sun Jun 09, 2024 1:29 pm
Miss T (8432514) wrote:
Lainie (124009750) wrote:So many comments, so many suppositions, so many experts..... :idea: :haha:
I'll just wait for clarity.
I love this game and i hope what has been done is for the benefit of us all.
my heart goes out to all of you who have lost precious memories - and to those whose rooms have been destroyed.
I'm just waiting to see what the outcome is.
But I'll still be here.
Edited to say that my most favourite art work has gone too. My rooms are wrecked. :sad:

POST OF THE DAYI!!! :star: :star: :trophy: :star: :star:

So will I, doll :love: :heart:

Speculation, however well-intentioned, is something that the Vikings have politely asked us to resist the urge post

Viking Adam has promised a full explanation as soon as he's able to provide one and I see no reason why he wouldn't honour that

I know it sucks, all of my tour maps are now gone so I too have been adversely affected by this, however, I believe they will do whatever they can to find a solution

:heart: I live in hope.

Lainie
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Sun Jun 09, 2024 1:33 pm
DANDELIONWINE (122607870) wrote:
Lainie (124009750) wrote:So many comments, so many suppositions, so many experts..... :idea: :haha:
I'll just wait for clarity.
I love this game and i hope what has been done is for the benefit of us all.
my heart goes out to all of you who have lost precious memories - and to those whose rooms have been destroyed.
I'm just waiting to see what the outcome is.
But I'll still be here.
Edited to say that my most favourite art work has gone too. My rooms are wrecked. :sad:




Wise words here
So many experts inserting excuses like they know
Only those inside BVG really know.

I'll wait fir more word from BVG before making excuses or suppostions

Facts matter!!

my point exactly, We don't know - nobody really knows - but I know I'm hoping for the best outcome for all of us. My special memories are in my heart.
but I'm still sad. :wailing: :hug:

Star
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Sun Jun 09, 2024 2:03 pm
Sunday sale this nonsense boring same themes repeated.
I think they want the game to close.
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