Veronica (122961678) wrote:

Samberg (185737325) wrote:Rerelease everything.

Start with retro specs.

I won't care to buy them but do it anyway!

LOL They should release retros and bow and price them 1c.

I would laugh forever ! ahahahaa Can't imagine the amount of fun.

This seems rather mean spirited.

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:

KJ (165011506) wrote:
Well said Robot...the problem is that some mistake the thrill of the hunt and the process of trading and saving to obtain a goal as greed because for them fun is just getting what you want when you want it without any kind of challenge...just like the 5% of us who actually support the game buying and dealing Yocash are constantly accused of being Price-Jackers and greedy because those that don't spend their own money feel somehow entitled to decide the value of our real money for us...I said it in another thread.... since I have been watching all the posts and attitudes surrounding this issue I have decided that selling YoCash at a really low rate, although it may be nice for buyers, is not doing any favors for BVG or the game...I have pretty much decided to not bother dealing anymore and just keep the cash to myself...it was a good way to work towards goals but I think now that mostly we are just somewhat taken for granted in the game and after being painted with the same brush as hackers and cheaters I really don't feel the desire to help anyone get easily what I had to spend and save hard for.

What you are referring to in the beginning of your post is simply saving and no one ever said saving is greedy. The problem is within the last 2 years things have gone to in the k price range to the m price range. With that being said use a gas station for example. Our gas price fluctuates all the time. But, there are times when something happens over seas and gas companies start panicking and begin to price jack their prices at the pump. Is it fair to us? No! Do people start screaming price gouging? Yes! Are the companies forced to push their prices back down to what the surrounding gas stations are pretty much selling? Yes! No one forced you to buy Yocash, but you did because you liked some stuff and you wanted to be able to buy it.

Yes I think my opinion should be valued because everyone else wants their opinion valued in this game. Just because I haven't spent real money in the last month doesn't mean I haven't spent tons of money in the past, or that I won't in the future. It means nothing in the stores is of any interest to me or I have already bought what I wanted and again nothing else.appeals to me. I refuse to just buy Yocash to buy stuff that I don't want and try to sell it at a later time by making the price go up. I really not into spending tons on money and nothing of material value to show for it unless it's something that truly makes me happy. Also things don't go up in value 1000% higher in value in a matter of 2 years unless we are talking about the stock market and that doesn't even do that. 2012 items are being sold for almost a million if not more than a million which is absolutely ridiculous.

In regards to the comment about bvg making their statement. This argument has been said 10 times over. Some are posting and not reading this thread. Again, at the time the statement was made no one really made a defense as to whys they should be open. The ones screaming so much were the ones trying to make sure they could keep their millions safe. I'm sorry but selling 2 items that are worth 2 mill or so is not working hard to make money. It is you got lucky that someone was willing to pay that to either keep it or trying to sell it at a higher price.

You are right. Not everyone likes having to go to a thousand sales for one item or multiple items. I like to spend my time decorating not trying to find it.

People are also losing slight that this is a game and are trying way to much to compare it to reality.

It does feel *real* to an extent I suppose when it's my real money I use to play this game, even though I know it's entertainment dollars. I think that does contribute to that sense of comparison with reality to a degree.

PingPong Raven (181639560) wrote:

hey there rockstar

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:What you are referring to in the beginning of your post is simply saving and no one ever said saving is greedy. The problem is within the last 2 years things have gone to in the k price range to the m price range. With that being said use a gas station for example. Our gas price fluctuates all the time. But, there are times when something happens over seas and gas companies start panicking and begin to price jack their prices at the pump. Is it fair to us? No! Do people start screaming price gouging? Yes! Are the companies forced to push their prices back down to what the surrounding gas stations are pretty much selling? Yes! No one forced you to buy Yocash, but you did because you liked some stuff and you wanted to be able to buy it.

Yes I think my opinion should be valued because everyone else wants their opinion valued in this game. Just because I haven't spent real money in the last month doesn't mean I haven't spent tons of money in the past, or that I won't in the future. It means nothing in the stores is of any interest to me or I have already bought what I wanted and again nothing else.appeals to me. I refuse to just buy Yocash to buy stuff that I don't want and try to sell it at a later time by making the price go up. I really not into spending tons on money and nothing of material value to show for it unless it's something that truly makes me happy. Also things don't go up in value 1000% higher in value in a matter of 2 years unless we are talking about the stock market and that doesn't even do that. 2012 items are being sold for almost a million if not more than a million which is absolutely ridiculous.

In regards to the comment about bvg making their statement. This argument has been said 10 times over. Some are posting and not reading this thread. Again, at the time the statement was made no one really made a defense as to whys they should be open. The ones screaming so much were the ones trying to make sure they could keep their millions safe. I'm sorry but selling 2 items that are worth 2 mill or so is not working hard to make money. It is you got lucky that someone was willing to pay that to either keep it or trying to sell it at a higher price.

You are right. Not everyone likes having to go to a thousand sales for one item or multiple items. I like to spend my time decorating not trying to find it.

People are also losing slight that this is a game and are trying way to much to compare it to reality.

I do find it strange you compare to two rl situations gas and stock market and then say "People are also losing slight that this is a game and are trying way to much to compare it to reality."

Samberg (185737325) wrote:Are the retros in store yet?

LMAO Literally, laughing and snorting all at once I so didn't expect to come across this in this thread. Thank you for this.

Meleagris (122131215) wrote:

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:What you are referring to in the beginning of your post is simply saving and no one ever said saving is greedy. The problem is within the last 2 years things have gone to in the k price range to the m price range. With that being said use a gas station for example. Our gas price fluctuates all the time. But, there are times when something happens over seas and gas companies start panicking and begin to price jack their prices at the pump. Is it fair to us? No! Do people start screaming price gouging? Yes! Are the companies forced to push their prices back down to what the surrounding gas stations are pretty much selling? Yes! No one forced you to buy Yocash, but you did because you liked some stuff and you wanted to be able to buy it.

Yes I think my opinion should be valued because everyone else wants their opinion valued in this game. Just because I haven't spent real money in the last month doesn't mean I haven't spent tons of money in the past, or that I won't in the future. It means nothing in the stores is of any interest to me or I have already bought what I wanted and again nothing else.appeals to me. I refuse to just buy Yocash to buy stuff that I don't want and try to sell it at a later time by making the price go up. I really not into spending tons on money and nothing of material value to show for it unless it's something that truly makes me happy. Also things don't go up in value 1000% higher in value in a matter of 2 years unless we are talking about the stock market and that doesn't even do that. 2012 items are being sold for almost a million if not more than a million which is absolutely ridiculous.

In regards to the comment about bvg making their statement. This argument has been said 10 times over. Some are posting and not reading this thread. Again, at the time the statement was made no one really made a defense as to whys they should be open. The ones screaming so much were the ones trying to make sure they could keep their millions safe. I'm sorry but selling 2 items that are worth 2 mill or so is not working hard to make money. It is you got lucky that someone was willing to pay that to either keep it or trying to sell it at a higher price.

You are right. Not everyone likes having to go to a thousand sales for one item or multiple items. I like to spend my time decorating not trying to find it.

People are also losing slight that this is a game and are trying way to much to compare it to reality.

I do find it strange you compare to two rl situations gas and stock market and then say "People are also losing slight that this is a game and are trying way to much to compare it to reality."

I used it because people try to compare it to real life. That was my intent!

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:I used it because people try to compare it to real life. That was my intent!

So you say people shouldn't do it ... compare it to real life ... and then you do it ... OK.

I don't see the problem with it, if it's benefiting players' enjoyment of the game and financially benefiting BVG then why not eh?

Josh Many (178805958) wrote:I don't see the problem with it, if it's benefiting players' enjoyment of the game and financially benefiting BVG then why not eh?

I love this answer...seems so simple a solution

Josh Many (178805958) wrote:I don't see the problem with it, if it's benefiting players' enjoyment of the game and financially benefiting BVG then why not eh?

No.

TROLLOP (182933373) wrote:

Josh Many (178805958) wrote:I don't see the problem with it, if it's benefiting players' enjoyment of the game and financially benefiting BVG then why not eh?

No.

Shush you!!!! >:)

I was hoping BVG would take a look at this poll xD It's pretty clear that both sides are nearly running a very close race.

Mabye a semi-re-release lol xD

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:

KJ (165011506) wrote:
Well said Robot...the problem is that some mistake the thrill of the hunt and the process of trading and saving to obtain a goal as greed because for them fun is just getting what you want when you want it without any kind of challenge...just like the 5% of us who actually support the game buying and dealing Yocash are constantly accused of being Price-Jackers and greedy because those that don't spend their own money feel somehow entitled to decide the value of our real money for us...I said it in another thread.... since I have been watching all the posts and attitudes surrounding this issue I have decided that selling YoCash at a really low rate, although it may be nice for buyers, is not doing any favors for BVG or the game...I have pretty much decided to not bother dealing anymore and just keep the cash to myself...it was a good way to work towards goals but I think now that mostly we are just somewhat taken for granted in the game and after being painted with the same brush as hackers and cheaters I really don't feel the desire to help anyone get easily what I had to spend and save hard for.

What you are referring to in the beginning of your post is simply saving and no one ever said saving is greedy. The problem is within the last 2 years things have gone to in the k price range to the m price range. With that being said use a gas station for example. Our gas price fluctuates all the time. But, there are times when something happens over seas and gas companies start panicking and begin to price jack their prices at the pump. Is it fair to us? No! Do people start screaming price gouging? Yes! Are the companies forced to push their prices back down to what the surrounding gas stations are pretty much selling? Yes! No one forced you to buy Yocash, but you did because you liked some stuff and you wanted to be able to buy it.

Yes I think my opinion should be valued because everyone else wants their opinion valued in this game. Just because I haven't spent real money in the last month doesn't mean I haven't spent tons of money in the past, or that I won't in the future. It means nothing in the stores is of any interest to me or I have already bought what I wanted and again nothing else.appeals to me. I refuse to just buy Yocash to buy stuff that I don't want and try to sell it at a later time by making the price go up. I really not into spending tons on money and nothing of material value to show for it unless it's something that truly makes me happy. Also things don't go up in value 1000% higher in value in a matter of 2 years unless we are talking about the stock market and that doesn't even do that. 2012 items are being sold for almost a million if not more than a million which is absolutely ridiculous.

In regards to the comment about bvg making their statement. This argument has been said 10 times over. Some are posting and not reading this thread. Again, at the time the statement was made no one really made a defense as to whys they should be open. The ones screaming so much were the ones trying to make sure they could keep their millions safe. I'm sorry but selling 2 items that are worth 2 mill or so is not working hard to make money. It is you got lucky that someone was willing to pay that to either keep it or trying to sell it at a higher price.

You are right. Not everyone likes having to go to a thousand sales for one item or multiple items. I like to spend my time decorating not trying to find it.

People are also losing slight that this is a game and are trying way to much to compare it to reality.

Well where I live...the gas companies do not lower our gas prices no matter how much we scream about it. They do it when and if they are ready to and sometimes not for months on end. And now that the hackers and coin generators are gone from the game, the only people interested in protecting their millions are for the most part, people who spent real money to make them and likely saved quite a bit to buy those million coin items they might choose to sell in favor of getting something else with those coins instead. So while you are complaining people aren't valuing your opinion you are doing the same thing by not valuing that maybe the selling price of the million dollar item is not far off from what one might have paid for it in the first place because really you have no way to know. And yes this may well be a game, but for many of us, we have spent literally thousands of real dollars on it over the years buying things at whatever the current market dictates and yes that is our choice but the bottom line is that a reputable company is not going to drop the bottom out of our little investments just because others don't want to spend as much for them in game. BVG is working to bring the economy to a reasonable place now that they have rid the game of the cheaters and from what I am seeing it seems to be working. I had just purchased my last 08 costume when Zynga re-released them out of nowhere. It had taken me years to save and trade for them and poof...that was all my real money and effort spent just to watch people breeze in and buy them up in a single swoop with no effort and much less expenditure....hardly fair....people left the game in droves over that. Many of us end up decorating amazing rooms with aftermarket items we pay dearly for and certainly would not appreciate people being able to do the same without spending a fraction of the cost. The fact is that not all, but a lot of people who would take advantage of that opportunity have never spent a real dime on this game and never will. Those people may play here but they are not customers and as much as they hold equal value as human beings they are not the people that will be keeping this game afloat over the long haul and BVG is not going to drop the bottom out from under their paying customers to make their non-paying players happy. The number of actual regular paying customers who want re-releases are in the minority to paying customers who prefer to leave things as they are and move on to new things. They are not going to be swayed by the notion that suddenly everyone will run and buy up yocash and invest in all the themes being reopened because although some would, the majority that didn't spend before will continue not to spend now. In the fight to save Yo....everyone was swearing up and down on the BVG site that they wouldn't be sorry if they saved the game and they would support BVG but that story has now changed to "I will spend if I like the stuff" or "I will spend if you release what I tell you to release". To me that is not support at all and BVG now knows that so far only 5% of the players are actually Customers and to date the other 95% were just whistling Dixie.

Chach (120138544) wrote:

Samberg (185737325) wrote:Are the retros in store yet?

LMAO Literally, laughing and snorting all at once I so didn't expect to come across this in this thread. Thank you for this.

You're welcome!

I don't think the collectible stuff should ever be re-released though, kind of invalidates the entire purpose of trying to collect something that is an appreciable asset. Also it would invalidate many people spending on things.

But the ridiculous prices some of the non-collectibles have attained over the years, or in the case of say Fairytale Fantasy, months is absurd. I even own some of the very items that this has happened to. There is no reason for what was a stupid ugly 2yc unicorn that's now selling for 1m+

BVG stated they were set out to fix the broken economy. They have done nothing so far to do that. They banned coin sellers, just to unban them for whatever reason. A good way to fix the broken economy is to invalidate the value of many items that should never have gone to that value in the first place, imo.

And yes, I could be completely wrong there.

Nyx (12531218) wrote:

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:

KJ (165011506) wrote:
Well said Robot...the problem is that some mistake the thrill of the hunt and the process of trading and saving to obtain a goal as greed because for them fun is just getting what you want when you want it without any kind of challenge...just like the 5% of us who actually support the game buying and dealing Yocash are constantly accused of being Price-Jackers and greedy because those that don't spend their own money feel somehow entitled to decide the value of our real money for us...I said it in another thread.... since I have been watching all the posts and attitudes surrounding this issue I have decided that selling YoCash at a really low rate, although it may be nice for buyers, is not doing any favors for BVG or the game...I have pretty much decided to not bother dealing anymore and just keep the cash to myself...it was a good way to work towards goals but I think now that mostly we are just somewhat taken for granted in the game and after being painted with the same brush as hackers and cheaters I really don't feel the desire to help anyone get easily what I had to spend and save hard for.

What you are referring to in the beginning of your post is simply saving and no one ever said saving is greedy. The problem is within the last 2 years things have gone to in the k price range to the m price range. With that being said use a gas station for example. Our gas price fluctuates all the time. But, there are times when something happens over seas and gas companies start panicking and begin to price jack their prices at the pump. Is it fair to us? No! Do people start screaming price gouging? Yes! Are the companies forced to push their prices back down to what the surrounding gas stations are pretty much selling? Yes! No one forced you to buy Yocash, but you did because you liked some stuff and you wanted to be able to buy it.

Yes I think my opinion should be valued because everyone else wants their opinion valued in this game. Just because I haven't spent real money in the last month doesn't mean I haven't spent tons of money in the past, or that I won't in the future. It means nothing in the stores is of any interest to me or I have already bought what I wanted and again nothing else.appeals to me. I refuse to just buy Yocash to buy stuff that I don't want and try to sell it at a later time by making the price go up. I really not into spending tons on money and nothing of material value to show for it unless it's something that truly makes me happy. Also things don't go up in value 1000% higher in value in a matter of 2 years unless we are talking about the stock market and that doesn't even do that. 2012 items are being sold for almost a million if not more than a million which is absolutely ridiculous.

In regards to the comment about bvg making their statement. This argument has been said 10 times over. Some are posting and not reading this thread. Again, at the time the statement was made no one really made a defense as to whys they should be open. The ones screaming so much were the ones trying to make sure they could keep their millions safe. I'm sorry but selling 2 items that are worth 2 mill or so is not working hard to make money. It is you got lucky that someone was willing to pay that to either keep it or trying to sell it at a higher price.

You are right. Not everyone likes having to go to a thousand sales for one item or multiple items. I like to spend my time decorating not trying to find it.

People are also losing slight that this is a game and are trying way to much to compare it to reality.

It does feel *real* to an extent I suppose when it's my real money I use to play this game, even though I know it's entertainment dollars. I think that does contribute to that sense of comparison with reality to a degree.

I spent hundreds of dollars playing modern warfare games and black ops games. Although it is military based, the game is not real. You can still talk to real people and make friends which I did, but the game is still fantasy.

On to a different issue but the same - I understand everyone's views. I really and seriously do! I also understand that BVG is trying their best to make everyone love this game again. With that said, they could have easily prematurely made their statement regarding the situation because the only ones screaming were the ones who wanted to keep making boocoodles amounts of money (Willow I shouldn't have to keep repeating myself here). Everyone does plays differnet. Why should BVG only cater to one group of people (old players, collectors, old players that play to get rich) with regards to this situation. Why can't they cater to the majority (decorators, bvg, old players, old players that took a break, collectors, new players). I have said in a past post on this thread the benefits to having them open and the benefits to keeping them closed. The benefits for keeping them open seem to out weigh the benefits for keeping them closed.

I you say you are going to quit because they permanently unlock the furniture themes that are non collectibles, and non holiday, then guess what that's on you. People screamed left and right about that with zynga, and half the people screaming didn't leave. Most of them ended up happy because they could get a hold of something they really wanted. The majority that did leave, were people who were tired of the hacking, tired of seeing everything worth yocash, and pretty much nothing worth coins anymore, and tired of zynga just down right lying to make a buck.

Yes BVG made their statement, but maybe this will open their eyes on a different point of view! That's all that I ask!

Veronica (122961678) wrote:
You are the heroine of this thread Amber

It does seem that way doesn't it?!? hahaha

Meleagris (122131215) wrote:

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:I used it because people try to compare it to real life. That was my intent!

So you say people shouldn't do it ... compare it to real life ... and then you do it ... OK.

I had to because everyone seems to try to compare it. HELLO! I'm not going to argue over that... Move along...

I am mainly a decorator for many years I didn't even hardly dress in anything but noob clothes. I'm not in the game to see how much money I can have, I'm in the game to decorate, anyone who doesn't believe that, I'll be glad to buddy you and let you see all my homes.

As I said earlier I don't believe the rereleasing of stuff is what caused the downfall of the game, I believe it was hackers and coin sellers. I also believe there should be a theme that stays in the store that has basic decorating items.

There will always be certain items that leave store that end up being good for decorating. When a theme leaves I (since I am a decorator) try to hoard up on those items. I also log in every day to see what is going on as far as items getting ready to leave so I can hoard those items. Even when I am on vacation I do this. I never gave up on the game and decided to sit out for months and months ... because I might miss something.

A lot of what is in store now and closed is themes already rereleased. And yes there are a few that were more recent and closed. I wish they would just remove them from store because they are clogging up things.

If they opened up stuff, well I would probably just buy more of certain things, being the hoarder that I am. If they don't open up then if I need something I don't have I'll look for it and sometimes I've had to wait a very long time to find an item I wanted.

There are still themes that can be bought from the store and some of them are very nice themes. I guarantee that when any of the currently opened themes are closed there will be those who will want those themes rereleased.

Are we going to have things constantly being rereleased? BVG said they aren't going to rerelease and they weren't totally ignorant about the game so they didn't make an uninformed decision. To say we only want the "ghost themes" rereleased and that's all, well that opens up the flood gates. If BVG does that for those who want the "ghost themes" rereleased then what about the people who want other themes rereleased, shouldn't they then get what they want also?

Personally I voted no, and in general I think rereleasing items is a bad idea. If BVG decides to do it, I will live with it. I'm in it for decorating and I can always decorate. I have a number of decorating projects that I can work on now to keep myself busy.

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:

Meleagris (122131215) wrote:

AmBeR (3071891) wrote:I used it because people try to compare it to real life. That was my intent!

So you say people shouldn't do it ... compare it to real life ... and then you do it ... OK.

I had to because everyone seems to try to compare it. HELLO! I'm not going to argue over that... Move along...

I will move along when I feel like it not when told to by you. And you don't have to argue with me, it's your choice to do so. If everyone jumps in the lake then do you "have to because everyone" else does ... and if you do what kind of impact will your saying hey let's not jump in the lake have ... none. And no one is forcing you to respond to this post, however if you chose to then that is your choice.